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SirClintonPortis 03-13-2012 06:16 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
Haven't read the rest of this thread, but there is an elephant in the room: Santana Moss has become absolutely expendable.

SkinzWin 03-13-2012 06:17 PM

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[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2012/3/13/2868882/redskins-pursuing-wide-receiver-eddie-royal-and-cornerback-eric]Redskins Pursuing Wide Receiver Eddie Royal And Cornerback Eric Wright; According To Report - SB Nation DC[/url]

Might get CB Eric Wright!

SirClintonPortis 03-13-2012 06:18 PM

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[quote=WilbursHomie;897653]Man, the people at Wikipedia are really on top of things. They already have garçon on the Redskins.[/quote]

And they saved a bunch of paper in the process...if Wiki had been a print encyclopedia. :FIREdevil

DynamiteRave 03-13-2012 06:18 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;897743][url=http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2012/3/13/2868882/redskins-pursuing-wide-receiver-eddie-royal-and-cornerback-eric]Redskins Pursuing Wide Receiver Eddie Royal And Cornerback Eric Wright; According To Report - SB Nation DC[/url]

Might get CB Eric Wright![/quote]

Maybe then we can get rid of Barnes. Oh my God. Please, get rid of Barnes.

skinsfaninok 03-13-2012 06:18 PM

K bye moss... Damn

Lotus 03-13-2012 06:19 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;897733]I wouldn't say he's the most productive. Moss was out over a month with his broken hand and has almost consistently put up 1000+ yard seasons since he's been here. Gaffney HAD to be productive cuz the rest of our WR corp at the time blew.[/quote]

I'm with you DRave. Moss has more talent. Gaffney caught many balls because defenses focused on taking Moss out of the play.

That said, both Moss and Gaffney may be hittin' the bricks.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-13-2012 06:20 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;897742]Haven't read the rest of this thread, but there is an elephant in the room: Santana Moss has become absolutely expendable.[/quote]

the only thing is that, according to the salary cap info here, we would barely save anything by cutting him. hes just as expensive to cut as he is to keep, so that could keep him here.

REDSKINS4ever 03-13-2012 06:21 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;897742]Haven't read the rest of this thread, but there is an elephant in the room: Santana Moss has become absolutely expendable.[/quote]

SirClintonPortis, I was thinking the same thing. Santana Moss is a true pro and has been such a vital portion of our offense for the past 7 seasons. But unless he's going to be in a reserve role, what will be his status for the upcoming season? As a fan, I can look back to great things Moss has done for this franchise since we traded Coles for him in 2005. But it's in the best interest of this team to move forward. I like the additions to the wide receiving corps.

CultBrennan59 03-13-2012 06:22 PM

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I have 3 threads open right now but people keep questioning why we'd cut Gaffney. Its a money/age issue.

I agree he needs to stay on the team, but thats just how the business is..

SirClintonPortis 03-13-2012 06:23 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;897753]the only thing is that, according to the salary cap info here, we would barely save anything by cutting him. hes just as expensive to cut as he is to keep, so that could keep him here.[/quote]

Well, that's what competition is for then. We'll see if he has another year with us or not. I'm fine with either route(keeping him or letting him go) if it makes sense.

bertoskins2 03-13-2012 06:23 PM

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If moss takes pay cut I will take him

DynamiteRave 03-13-2012 06:24 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;897754]SirClintonPortis, I was thinking the same thing. Santana Moss is a true pro and has been such a vital portion of our offense for the past 7 seasons. But unless he's going to be in a reserve role, what will be his status for the upcoming season? As a fan, I can look back to great things Moss has done for this franchise since we traded Coles for him in 2005. But it's in the best interest of this team to move forward. I like the additions to the wide receiving corps.[/quote]

I agree with this. I think Moss would still be productive with the team, but I don't see him being thrilled with being a slot receiver or potentially even less. It'll suck to see him go.

12thMan 03-13-2012 06:26 PM

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[quote=iRepDMV;897740]Says who? We had about 7 ;last year. Remember?

1)Leonard Hankerson
2)Jabar Gaffney
3)Santana Moss
4)Brandon Banks
5)Niles Paul
6)Anthony Armstrong
7)Donte Stallworth[/quote]

Banks didn't play WR. Sure he was listed as one and played a few downs, but for all intent and purposes he was a return specialist.

Mechanix544 03-13-2012 06:26 PM

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You might want to rename the thread - The Posse 2.0.

12thMan 03-13-2012 06:27 PM

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I would b really surprised if Jabar Gaffney isn't on this team. He had a solid season with a shaky quarterback.

The Goat 03-13-2012 06:27 PM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;897685]There going to put Moss as KR/PR hope he gets hurt & release him with a injury package I forgot the wordage.[/quote]

Moss has been a big frustration at times for drops and giving up too early in a play/game...but for eff sakes what you said is overly harsh dude!

Dirtbag59 03-13-2012 06:27 PM

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[quote=Mechanix544;897766]You might want to rename the thread - The Posse 2.0.[/quote]

Nah, we have to stop living in the past. Let them make their own name for themselves.

SirClintonPortis 03-13-2012 06:28 PM

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[quote=Mechanix544;897766]You might want to rename the thread - The Posse 2.0.[/quote]
Maybe we'll call them "the Quartet". (yes, I know it sounds lame)

SmootSmack 03-13-2012 06:28 PM

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Think we can probably assume David Anderson isn't coming back either

DynamiteRave 03-13-2012 06:29 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;897772]Think we can probably assume David Anderson isn't coming back either[/quote]

I'm not sure why we would wanna keep him anyway.

Dirtbag59 03-13-2012 06:29 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;897772]Think we can probably assume David Anderson isn't coming back either[/quote]

[YT]WWaLxFIVX1s[/YT]

CultBrennan59 03-13-2012 06:30 PM

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Good news skin fans Fletch and the skins have spoken but have not reached a deal yet. CBS washington says..we're heading in the right direction now we need to just get it done!

and eric winston...

SkinzWin 03-13-2012 06:30 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;897769]Nah, we have to stop living in the past. Let them make their own name for themselves.[/quote]

The Snatches?

DynamiteRave 03-13-2012 06:31 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;897778]The Snatches?[/quote]

That sounds scandalous.

Dirtbag59 03-13-2012 06:32 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;897778]The Snatches?[/quote]

How about, "those guys that RG3 throws to"

Lotus 03-13-2012 06:34 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;897778]The Snatches?[/quote]

Keep it kid friendly: The Ball Whores.

NYCskinfan82 03-13-2012 06:34 PM

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[quote=The Goat;897768]Moss has been a big frustration at times for drops and giving up too early in a play/game...but for eff sakes what you said is overly harsh dude![/quote]

Just a little jokey joke.

SirClintonPortis 03-13-2012 06:34 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;897781]How about, "those guys that RG3 throws to"[/quote]

RGHM

Robert Griffin's Homies.

:FIREdevil

Dirtbag59 03-13-2012 06:35 PM

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[quote=Lotus;897787]Keep it kid friendly: The Ball Whores.[/quote]

I'm still going with the fatties. Can't do nothing right can you Redskins. Besides with a name like that we can combat childhood obesity.

WilbursHomie 03-13-2012 06:35 PM

Moss can still get open as hell man. Just no yards after the catch anymore. You put a LB on him as a slot guy and I think he'll have a bunch of catches in Kyle's offense. Plus he comes back to the ball real well and with RG3 hopefully extending some plays outside the pocket next year, he'll be ok.

CultBrennan59 03-13-2012 06:37 PM

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we gave JM $6 million a year!! Thats a lot!

30gut 03-13-2012 06:37 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[U]I like that we upgraded the WRs[/U] and don't have anything against Garcon as a player but....smh about the compensation.

21 mil guaranteed?
Why?

Jabar Gaffney 68 catches 947 yards 5 tds
Pierre Garcon 70 catches 947 yards 6 tds
^^This is Garcon's most productive season, which btw isn't even as productive as Moss's 2010 season (then one where he didn't break his hand like this year) 93 catches 1,115 yards 6 tds

I would have been just as happy with Early Doucet or Harry Douglas and saved some of that 21 mil/42mil/5

SirClintonPortis 03-13-2012 06:39 PM

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WR by committee. Lol, don't draft Redskins WRs in fantasy next year.

itvnetop 03-13-2012 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=30gut;897797][U]I like that we upgraded the WRs[/U] and don't have anything against Garcon as a player but....smh about the compensation.

21 mil guaranteed?
Why?

Jabar Gaffney 68 catches 947 yards 5 tds
Pierre Garcon 70 catches 947 yards 6 tds
^^This is Garcon's most productive season, which btw isn't even as productive as Moss's 2010 season (then one where he didn't break his hand like this year) 93 catches 1,115 yards 6 tds

I would have been just as happy with Early Doucet or Harry Douglas and saved some of that 21 mil/42mil/5[/QUOTE]

I think gaffney's numbers represent his ceiling. Considering his age, the opposite is true for garçon.


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Dirtbag59 03-13-2012 06:40 PM

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Okay guys we're going crazy with the "smh" time to break it down, break it down gentleman, and I use the term gentleman loosely, alright break it down. Excellent now take a knee remember your helmet is not a chair.

los panda 03-13-2012 06:40 PM

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i like these moves, i can't wait to see the contract specifics.

garcon, morgan, gaffney, hankerson, royal, and hopefully moss

depth is there

SkinzWin 03-13-2012 06:44 PM

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How does a 5 year deal void to a 2 year deal for Josh Morgan? Does that just mean the Skins can get out after 2 years and not owe anything?

[url]https://twitter.com/#!/ProFootballTalk/status/179698428912205825[/url]

DynamiteRave 03-13-2012 06:44 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=los panda;897805]i like these moves, i can't wait to see the contract specifics.

garcon, morgan, gaffney, hankerson, royal, and hopefully moss

depth is there[/quote]

Depth is good. I like having the issue of, "we have so many potentially good players, what should we do", rather than having so many bad players you end up blowing up the team.

It's kinda like when everyone was freaking out about having 2 good TEs. The more good players we need to figure out what to do with the better.

12thMan 03-13-2012 06:45 PM

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@ProFootballTalk WR Josh Morgan agrees to 5yr deal w/ #Redskins that will void to 2 years. Worth up to $12 million. $7.5 M "guaranteed."

Evilgrin 03-13-2012 06:45 PM

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Garçons contract is stupid, why do that.


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