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I'm trying to hijack the thread?

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warriorz I don't think you're actually paying attention to what you're saying..

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[quote=SmootSmack;824191]You think we'd be a better team if Colin Cowherd said he thought we'd be 11-5 this year?[/quote]

Your never going to try to understand what I was saying to you. You just want to be right.

Just don't caught posting something remotely having to do with the medias or fans opinion as it relates to this cause I'm going to jump all over it

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[quote=warriorzpath;824197]Your never going to try to understand what I was saying to you. You just want to be right.

Just don't caught posting something remotely having to do with the medias or fans opinion as it relates to this cause I'm going to jump all over it[/quote]

I've never been afraid to be wrong here. So...you're wrong there about me just wanting to be right.

And I did say quote "Yes, individual players can be bothered by what the media says about them. And some cower from it. Others get motivated by it. But at the overall team level, whether Colin Cowherd says we'll go 2-14 or Ross Tucker says we'll go 10-6 is ultimately not a big deal."

That remote enough for you?

But really, do you think our peformance would be better if Cowherd said we'd be better?

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[quote=warriorzpath;824197]Your never going to try to understand what I was saying to you. You just want to be right.

Just don't caught posting something remotely having to do with the medias or fans opinion as it relates to this cause I'm going to jump all over it[/quote]

Like I said earlier, I don't think you know what you said.

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Its hard to post some ideas sometimes. It's hard when there's not this common level of understanding. Well the attempt anyways. I can be as difficult in these discussions too. By just saying the opposite. Too bad there isn't anything more substantial to go by for you to understand or at least for you to begin to understand.

I guess you either think that the media has an impact or it doesn't. It's like this (on the most outrageous level for u to understand) - do you think that what Oprah says doesn't affect or influence others?

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Wait, what did Oprah say our record would be?

Seriously though, you going to answer my Cowher question or not?

As for Oprah, we're talking about a different kind of influence.

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Whether or not the media has an impact is not the point. The discussion is about whether or not a negative viewpoint by the media has an impact on the play of a team.

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[quote=SmootSmack;824198]I've never been afraid to be wrong here. So...you're wrong there about me just wanting to be right.

And I did say quote "Yes, individual players can be bothered by what the media says about them. And some cower from it. Others get motivated by it. But at the overall team level, whether Colin Cowherd says we'll go 2-14 or Ross Tucker says we'll go 10-6 is ultimately not a big deal."

That remote enough for you?

But really, do you think our peformance would be better if Cowherd said we'd be better?[/quote]

And what do you think makes up a team? ...
A group of INDIVIDUALS

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[quote=warriorzpath;824206]And what do you think makes up a team? ...
A group of INDIVIDUALS[/quote]

and you think that as individuals, if they hear Cowherd prediction they'll play to that level?

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[quote=SmootSmack;824204]Wait, what did Oprah say our record would be?

Seriously though, you going to answer my Cowher question or not?

As for Oprah, we're talking about a different kind of influence.[/quote]

My point exactly. The media does have the potential to impact and influence. At least now we are getting somewhere with this.

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Am I invisible? lol

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[quote=GreekSkin;824209]Am I invisible? lol[/quote]

Haha. No I "see" you

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[quote=warriorzpath;824208]My point exactly. The media does have the potential to impact and influence. At least now we are getting somewhere with this.[/quote]

Don't confuse Oprah saying you should read this book with Colin Cowherd saying I think the Redskins will finish 2-14. Not at all the same thing

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[quote=GreekSkin;824207]and you think that as individuals, if they hear Cowherd prediction they'll play to that level?[/quote]

It could... remember cowherd has a national presence and also ties with those working in and around the NFL. They are well respected. Might there be a chance that, working with these individuals (maybe even by getting them some help in their media careers or getting them some shine) that he had some influence over them? Highly likely. If these individuals are well respected in the NFL then ...

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[quote=warriorzpath;824213]It could... remember cowherd has a national presence and also ties with those working in and around the NFL. They are well respected. Might there be a chance that, working with these individuals (maybe even by getting them some help in their media careers or getting them some shine) that he had some influence over them? Highly likely. If these individuals are well respected in the NFL then ...[/quote]

Dumb that down for me, because I don't follow at all

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[quote=SmootSmack;824211]Don't confuse Oprah saying you should read this book with Colin Cowherd saying I think the Redskins will finish 2-14. Not at all the same thing[/quote]

We're taking baby steps here...

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[quote=warriorzpath;824213]It could... remember cowherd has a national presence and also ties with those working in and around the NFL. They are well respected. Might there be a chance that, working with these individuals (maybe even by getting them some help in their media careers or getting them some shine) that he had some influence over them? Highly likely. If these individuals are well respected in the NFL then ...[/quote]

I don't follow...

Re: Yet another reason why Cris Carter is a moron
 

[quote=GreekSkin;824216]I don't follow...[/quote]

I'd say it's Greek to me...but that may not be what you'd say :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;824214]Dumb that down for me, because I don't follow at all[/quote]

I think we should stop while we were ahead. I think there is at least a common understanding that the media may have some affect on players.

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[quote=SmootSmack;824218]I'd say it's Greek to me...but that may not be what you'd say :)[/quote]

haha well played!

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... I don't think anybody else cares about this anyway.

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[quote=warriorzpath;824219]I think we should stop while we were ahead. I think there is at least a common understanding that the media may have some affect on players.[/quote]

I don't think we really agree exactly. But that's fine we can stop if you'd like.

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[quote=warriorzpath;824223]... I don't think anybody else cares about this anyway.[/quote]

I browsed through your posts about cowherd in this thread and this one jumps out as being the most accurate. Yet- I can't resist.

Cowherd is a joke, he's a sensationalist. He stretches and exaggerates the facts of any situation to an absurd degree just to make a point that he can summarize in a catchy soundbite. He's the rush limbaugh of sports radio. anyone persuaded by him is exceptionally weak minded

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[quote=SmootSmack;824185]Gotta go with Barbacoa[/quote]

like other things in this thread, too salty.

Gotta keep it authentic.

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[quote=warriorzpath;824188]Ok even if you thought I said it was the only reason why- I just said it wasn't. And I just updated my post. It's not the opinion you are denying. It's the impact of the opinion.

The only thing that I can compare this to that you cam relate to is like you saying money won't change me I'll still be the same person. We are just on two different levels of thinking. I don't whose right and whose wrong. Let me say that if you think that belief and confidence have an affect - I would consider these a form of opinion. And I think it is important to have the fan base believe in a team because I believe it does affect the teams performance.[/quote]

PLEASE continue your beliefs and continue to channel all that positive energy toward the team. I would never try to discourage you from doing that or try to change your mind.

PLEASE do not continue to try to convince me that this amounts to anything more substantial than a pinch of pigeon poop. Because that is my "level of thinking" and I don't see it changing a whole lot.

I have no interest in trying to change your mind; you have exactly no chance of changing mine.

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[quote=SmootSmack;824204]Wait, what did Oprah say our record would be?

Seriously though, you going to answer my Cowher question or not?

As for Oprah, we're talking about a different kind of influence.[/quote]

Michael Jordan and Oprah both enter a restaurant in Chicago with parties of two. There is one table left (with two seats). Jordan and Oprah refuse to sit together. Who gets it?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;824241]Michael Jordan and Oprah both enter a restaurant in Chicago with parties of two. There is one table left (with two seats). Jordan and Oprah refuse to sit together. Who gets it?[/quote]

Ditka

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I think warriorz has been on a week-long bender

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I feel like this thread is a fight, where warriorz keeps whiffing on his punches. There's just no contact.

[QUOTE=mooby;824245]I feel like this thread is a fight, where warriorz keeps whiffing on his punches. There's just no contact.[/QUOTE]

Is he even in the ring?

lol

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[quote=Mattyk;824247]Is he even in the ring?

lol[/quote]
You wouldn't know-- I knocked you out a long time ago.

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[quote=mooby;824245]I feel like this thread is a fight, where warriorz keeps whiffing on his punches. There's just no contact.[/quote]

I thought I was witnessing his firsts posts here after being banned by tk on extremeskins. Then I saw he had over 1000 posts and am amazed he's managed to go unnoticed for so long. What an introduction

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BHA, I don't play dirty --when I fight, I fight within the rules.

But if you don't want to play nice, then come with it.

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... and I'm tired of playing nice.

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Just lock the thread already.

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warriorz just shutup, I'm not playing captain save-a-board but you're making yourself out to be quite ignorant, we don't do that immature idiotic schtick here

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[quote=tryfuhl;824263]warriorz just shutup, I'm not playing captain save-a-board but you're making yourself out to be quite ignorant, we don't do that immature idiotic schtick here[/quote]

No you shut the f up

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Like I said. Lock the thread. Too much ES stuff going on here....

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