Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

[quote=Ruhskins;806545]Well Fletcher is the leader of this team, and I think Daniels is a respected veteran. My point had nothing to do with their abilities as players, but more of them being the voice of the team. I could have easily thrown Cooley's name in my post. Fans can sit here and be idealistic about wanting for Haynesworth to rot on the bench, be taught a lesson, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm sure players are sick of talking to the media about it (which will continue to happen until he is gone) and having a player being paid to do nothing.

Everyone just needs to get over this guy and move on.[/quote]

Basically, Haynesworth the employee being paid $100/hr and doing nothing while a lot of other guys are doing work and being paid $30/hr. Everyone ****ing hates him, from management(Haslett and Shanahan) down to his fellow employees. And yet fans care more about their own personal vendettas than their football team. The 3-4 is NOT going away, and thus Haynesworth will soon be more worthless than a pick for Mr. Irrelevant. Give him a real punishment: being out of football. No 3-4 team is going to want him. Schwartz has no need for him. Teams like the Colts don't want him because he's so ****ing selfish. He's like the Jeff George of DTs.

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

In any other business, the guy would be fired if he refused to follow management's instructions. That's called insubordination. The team should have the right to release a guy like this and have the ability to fine the player for conduct detrimental to the team. This seems to be a problem for most of the team sports. I wish the Redskins could just release Fat Albert. He is cancer on this team. I think he is a bigger problem than the Donovan McNabb fiasco.

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

What has Fat Albert been doing during the lockout? Has he participated in player workouts? Has he been working out independently? Is he out of shape and gaining weight?

Hey, hey, hey ...

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

If the Skins, anticipating that Haynesworth will be suspended by the NFL once a labor agreement is reached, would rather punish him than than to give him what he wants by cutting him at this time, that's fine by me. It serves him right.

If they plan to trade him to Timbuktu for next to nothing in return, that is also fine by me.

It is not fine by me if their plans include allowing him to ever again set foot in the Redskins' locker room. First of all, he's practically worthless to them in their 3-4 Defense because he refuses to play it, so there is no reason to waste a roster spot on him. Secondly, since the Redskins are fast becoming a younger team, I think the coaches should try to avoid the possibility that contact with Haynesworth might pollute the minds of their young players.

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;806607]If the Skins, anticipating that Haynesworth will be suspended by the NFL once a labor agreement is reached, would rather punish him than than to give him what he wants by cutting him at this time, that's fine by me. It serves him right.

If they plan to trade him to Timbuktu for next to nothing in return, that is also fine by me.

[B]It is not fine by me if their plans include allowing him to ever again set foot in the Redskins' locker room[/B]. First of all, he's practically worthless to them in their 3-4 Defense because he refuses to play it, so there is no reason to waste a roster spot on him. Secondly, since the Redskins are fast becoming a younger team, I think the coaches should try to avoid the possibility that contact with Haynesworth might pollute the minds of their young players.[/quote]

Maybe they'll work out a deal w/his agent; we won't fine him if he doesn't report provided that you can find a suitable trading partner w/in x days.

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

Vonnie Holliday adds to the criticism of AH.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110610_teammate_says_lot_of_stuff_you_hear_about_haynesworth_is_true]Teammate says lot of stuff you hear about Haynesworth is true - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

Yeah he told us a lot of that one day when he came to visit last winter. He didn't seem like a fan at all

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"At one point last year, the 29-year-old was juggling as many four court-related matters, including lawsuits from a bank, an exotic dancer, a man injured in an automobile accident and complaints from his ex-wife that he wasn't paying her health insurance or their children's bills." Quote

This is debaggery at its highest level!!!!!!!!!!!!! And disrespectfull in meetings, bring a lawsuit against this bag of turds for breech of being a class human being.

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

Let's put it this way.

Anyone who thinks the Skins are just going to release this guy and "cut their losses" is out to lunch.

Management has obviously taken great consideration it determining what they are going to do with with this POS. They have considered all options very carefully.

I guarantee you they will not just release him and let him win.

I will bet money on it.

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I agree that keeping him would waste a roster spot...but...it would sure send a message about the changes being made by this organization. No more taking the money and laying down in Washington. It's not that easy anymore. The reputation of this team among players in the NFL is that it's a place to go to get paid and that's pretty f'ed up.

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

I think we will hold on to him through training camp looking for a trade and if we cant find one then i think we will release him.

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

[quote=hail_2_da_skins;806565]What has Fat Albert been doing during the lockout? Has he participated in player workouts? Has he been working out independently? Is he out of shape and gaining weight?

Hey, hey, hey ...[/quote]

LOL, no he's having to juggle all his indiscretions and court dates. lol. When would he fit OTA's in?

[QUOTE=53Fan;806783]I agree that keeping him would waste a roster spot...but...it would sure send a message about the changes being made by this organization. No more taking the money and laying down in Washington. It's not that easy anymore. The reputation of this team among players in the NFL is that it's a place to go to get paid and that's pretty f'ed up.[/QUOTE]

There will always be players like Hayneswoth in the NFL. The biggest lesson to be learned here is by the team; they should never put themselves in this position by signing a player like him. And the culture within the team should be "you either get with the plan or GTFO".

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All this stuff about letting him get his way...so what?

Cut him, and let him be some other team's problem. You really think Philly's gonna want him? Okay, fine, let Philly take him. Let's see if JUAN FRIGGIN' CASTILLO, the former offensive line coach turned random ass defensive coordinator can contain Haynesworth.

The fact of the matter is, no one is going to want him. Period. And Haynesworth is so loco he's not going to settle for a cheap deal. Keeping him on the roster means we keep a player we could actually use off the roster.

And it just becomes another distraction. Every day Haynesworth is on the team is another day we have to hear about him, and players and coaches have to talk about him. Sportscenter and NFL Total Access would not shut up about it. Every other story would be "Has Mike Shanahan gone to far with Albert Haynesworth".

He'd become a sympathy case in some warped way.

Just cut him. If some teams wants to drop a truckload of money on him, let them deal with the ensuing crap storm. Haynesworth doesn't care. He doesn't want to play a 3-4. He doesn't want to play in a 4-3. He's said it in interviews; what he loved about Tennessee is that his DC allegedly let him do what he want.

"He'd come in with these intricate plays draw up and all these ideas, but at the end of the day he'd just let me play," He says in a radio interview. "Just let me play. Just let me do whatever I want to do. I'm a selfish jerk, I want to just play and do what I want to."

Well let his sorry ass "do what he wants" for some other team. Take some other teams money. Let's free up some cap space, buy a cappachino machine or something important.

Re: Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth
 

[quote=Ruhskins;806824][B]There will always be players like Hayneswoth in the NFL.[/B] The biggest lesson to be learned here is by the team; they should never put themselves in this position by signing a player like him. And the culture within the team should be "you either get with the plan or GTFO".

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AH can dominate games when he feels like it and we certainly weren't the only team going after him. If I remember correctly his agents phone was ringing off the hook 1 second after midnight when he became eligible. Would he have laid down if the Giants had signed him? I really don't know. Switching to the 3-4 didn't help but the Redskins also have a reputation for overpaying a player, getting screwed, then releasing him to sign with any team he wants. Unless I'm mistaken isn't that what happened with Archuletta, Lloyd, etc.? I didn't want him here to begin with because this is [B]exactly[/B] what I was afraid would happen. You can check my posts before we signed him. I was impressed with his talent and hoped for the best when he got here but absolutely do not want him on this team. I understand your point and agree with you Ruhskins, but if the Redskins decide to keep him and make his life miserable after giving him millions of dollars based on his agreement to go along with the changing defense, then AH breaking that same agreement that got him millions of their dollars...well I can understand their point too. We'll continue to sign FA's. Some will pan out some won't. It just seems some come here with the idea of getting paid, doing whatever they want, then getting released to sign somewhere else. No matter how good a player is, if that's their mindset based on the reputation the Redskins have among players in the league, a reputation we've[B] earned[/B], then why will it stop? Isn't releasing him exactly what he wants? Go to the Redskins and take the money and run. It's frustrating as hell and until the owners and players come to an agreement I probably just want to punish the SOB. No matter how it goes, hopefully we have a GM in Bruce Allen that will structure contracts in a way this kind of BS will no longer happen.