Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;783886]Wow, three pages so far and I don't think I saw one post that mentioned one minor inconvenience.....[B]no team can sign free agents until a new CBA is in place. [/B]

Not to mention that signing Rogers would be yet ANOTHER player on the wrong side of 30 that Washington would sign. What happened to all the folks screaming for a "youth movement" in D.C.? What happened to the folks screaming "Build through the draft"?

The good news is, once a CBA is in place he should come cheap, I mean he [U]only started in ONE game all last season[/U].

And did the judge give him permission to leave the state of Ohio? There is a little matter of Rogers carrying a loaded handgun through security at Clevelands Int'l Airport.

Rogers was good in his prime, but that time has passed. He will never be even half the player he used to be.[/quote]

That is not true.

It is true that no one can sign FA's whose contracts lapse and who change years of service with the theoretical league new year. It appears there will be many of these FA's once a new CBA is arranged.

But players who have been cut, rather than having their contracts lapse, and who have enough years of service immediately become unrestricted free agents and anyone can sign them. Whether it is wise to sign them is a separate issue.

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;783893]Another old ass lazy **** FA in Wsh? Gee and I though we were rebuilding?[/quote]

we'll see what happens... but if they go after this clown, then i'm not so sure shanahan and allen are any better than vinny.

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

From: Yardbarker.com


Since defensive tackle Shaun Rogers has been released by the Browns, there is good reason to speculate whether or not the Dallas Cowboys will pursue him.

The Cowboys new defensive coordinator Rob Ryan coached Rogers in Cleveland for the past two seasons and raved about his talent in the past.
Ryan said the following during the summer of 2009,

“He is a tremendous physical specimen. He is so athletic for a big man. I’ve been around the best in football. I’ve been around Warren Sapp in college. I coached Jamal Williams and Kevin Williams, a couple of decent All-Pro defensive tackles. Shaun Rogers is tremendous. Absolutely tremendous. Any system that he plays in, he is going to be dominant.”

With Ryan having good things to say about Rogers and the idea that the Cowboys might move current nose tackle Jay Ratliff to defensive end, it may make the acquisition of Rogers a no brainer.

The only problem right now is Rogers latest down fall. He has had trouble in the past of playing up to his potential and right now at the age of 31, he isn’t getting any younger.

Also Rogers’ health must be a concern since he has been battling hip and ankle injuries over the past couple of seasons.

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=Schneed10;783835]Rank the NTs right now in this league:

1) Vince Wilfork
2) Casey Hampton
3) BJ Raji
4) Shaun Rogers

Anybody else that should go ahead of Rogers? That puts it in perspective, he'd be a gigantic addition for us.[/quote]

I would say Ngata, but being B-more have seen both play and Rogers was very good and doesn't have the supporting cast that Ngata has.

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;783923]I would say Ngata, but being B-more have seen both play and Rogers was very good and doesn't have the supporting cast that Ngata has.[/quote]

Don't forget Aubrayo Franklin of the 49ers and Kris Jenkins when healthy. Other premier NT's include Casey Hampton and Jay Ratliff. To be fair though Scouts Inc did have Rogers tied among the best interior D-Lineman so it may be fair to say he's tops in the league when healthy. At the very least I'm sure Orakpo would be excited to have another Texas Alum up front.

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=Mattyk;783832][B][SIZE=4]When motivated[/SIZE][/B] the guy can dominate.[/quote]
NOT the phrase I am looking for in the potential new anchor for our D-line.........

[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;783923]I would say Ngata, but being B-more have seen both play and Rogers was very good and doesn't have the supporting cast that Ngata has.[/QUOTE]
Ngata is a DE.

[QUOTE=Schneed10;783835]Rank the NTs right now in this league:

1) Vince Wilfork
2) Casey Hampton
3) BJ Raji
4) Shaun Rogers

Anybody else that should go ahead of Rogers? That puts it in perspective, he'd be a gigantic addition for us.[/QUOTE]
Shaun Rogers started one game this season. Just one.

And he cracked your top 5?

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=skinsfan69;783888]Total 100% waste of time even talking to this guy. Rogers is basically an older Albert Haynesworth. Plays when he feels like it, rarely stays in shape and is somewhat of a headcase. Plus he's being flat out released by one of the worst teams in the NFL.[/quote]

My thoughts...exactly. This smacks of a crappy "win now" strategy. Shanny is just a fluffer in the porno flick of life :D

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=sandtrapjack;783929]Shaun Rogers started one game this season. Just one.

And he cracked your top 5?[/quote]

Both Williams in min are better, Tommie harris is better and jay Ratliff is way better

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

If the Redskins were to sign Shaun Rogers, the signing would be true to their tradition.

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=Longtimefan;783932]If the Redskins were to sign Shaun Rogers, the signing would be true to their tradition.[/quote]

No kidding. Does anyone around here pay attention or have we all lost our minds?

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

[quote=freddyg12;783867]I mean that Shanny has set the bar on how he expects his players, including vets, to practice & play. Rogers would know he's not coming here to loaf & collect one of danny's big checks.[/quote]

Excuse me, but once Danny Boy's big fat signing bonus check clears the bank and goes into a player's bank account, that player can loaf and create all kinds of dastardly distractions - - - because once the check is cashed, he has what he wanted from the Redskins. Shanahan can fuss and fume and stomp his feet - - but the money is already in the player's account.

If "getting paid" is at the top of the player's agenda, Shanahan is totally impotent should it come to a confrontation. See Shanny vs Fat Albert last year. If anyone declares Shanahan the winner in that spitting contest, he does not understand what happened and who is in charge of the next move.

Character and self-motivation are the keys to signing useful free agents - - not just stats and Madden ratings and declarations that the guy is "a beast".

Rogers can play very well when he wants to and is healthy. The key part of that is "wants to" because injuries cannot be predicted. The Skins have to figure out just how much he "wants to play" as opposed to "wants to be paid". The failure of the FO to do that over the past decade or so has been a significant part of the team's failures on the field.

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

Shaun Rogers reminds a bit of those veteran RB's (Larry Johnson and Willie Parker) we signed last offseason...their best years are behind them. All this talk of Shaun Rodgers is the 4th best NT or 5th best or whatever, it does not matter. That is true from his play over a year or two ago, not in 2010/2011 season. In the NFL, one or two years is a lot and it means the difference of really being a top 5 player and not being in the NFL at all or being a backup/role player.

Re: Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking
 

He is so much younger than Maake Kemoatu!
Championship!

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