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Longtimefan 01-14-2011 08:02 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
I'll go with Locker despite the fact his credentials looked much better last year than this. He may be a better fit for the Shanahan system than some of the other prospects. He too has some thing he needs to work on.

ILUVDEMSKINZ 01-14-2011 08:19 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
I voted for Mallett. I think Gabbert (1st choice) will go in the top 5.

CultBrennan59 01-14-2011 08:40 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
I voted for Mallett, because when I think it's all said and done, he'll be the best QB of this class, he definitely has the arm, pretty much has the accuracy, his decision making is good but not great, his feet are probably his weakness, especially since Shanahan QB's are required to run the bootlegs and move well in the pocket. But, I feel like that can be coached up to help him improve his feet.

Gabbert is a system QB with about as good of feet as Mallett (Yikes!), so NO.

Newton has the potential to be the next Big Ben, but reminds me too much of Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell. The question that I have for Cam Newton is can you read a defense, or are you always going to rely on your legs when your under pressure. NO.

Locker would be my second choice and is another major Boom or Bust like Cam Newton. I understand he didn't have great WR's at UW, so maybe he has that Matt Ryan potential there. He has the feet of an Elway (and the arm). But his senior year he made lots of bad choices and his completion percentage was not sexy at all. No, but if we had to pick a QB and Malletts gone, then Yes, take him.

Big C 01-14-2011 08:48 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
jake locker and blaine gabbert would be the best fits for us i think. mallett is too immobile. i also think blaine gabbert is the most overrated player in this draft. id prefer locker if we had to go qb at 10.

Nomad 01-14-2011 09:30 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
Cam..... is a winner....... Locker on other hand, digressed this year.............

BuckSkin 01-14-2011 09:41 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
Cameron Heyward proved to me that Mallett has trouble escaping a determined pass rusher. I'm going to jump on the Newton bandwagon.
I'm Buckskin and I approve this message.

juskins 01-14-2011 09:46 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
[quote=skinsfan57;777963]I believe Kellen Moore is returning to Boise State.Gabbert will go early.Other than Mallett,I like Colin Kaepernick of Nevada.likely to go in the 3rd-4th rd.[/quote]


I don't know much about Kellen Moore but I do agree with you about Mallet and the sleeper, Colin Kaepernick. You have to factor in the Combine to see how these guys approach it and how much they are willing to exert maximum effort in the various events. It won't make or break them but it will give you a clue as to what type of athlete they are.

GTripp0012 01-14-2011 09:56 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
The interesting thing is that (especially with the looming rookie cap) is that there are now many, many prospects who I would feel comfortable taking with the 10th overall pick (if it was a one round draft and I couldn't get these guys later). Pat Devlin, Colin Kaepernick, Scott Tolzien, Christian Ponder, and maybe Andy Dalton would probably live up to the expectations I would have for a top ten pick. And they'll all be available a round later. Not that hard to find quarterbacks to fill a need...unless you're the Cardinals.

I think the only guy of the big four (or whatever) I'd want with the first round pick is Blaine Gabbert. He's the best one there, and only (I think) Mallett would really even be in the same discussion (for best of the four). I would caution against limiting the draft field to these four, because in the context of just the guys with first round grades, it's a weak class. But this is a year where plenty of late rounders are undergraded. The class is much stronger than a glance at the top would lead one to believe.

It's also a banner year for D-II/D-III players with NFL ability. You usually get one every five years. I believe you have three in this class alone.

backrow 01-14-2011 10:01 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
I voted Other (Who?) because I want a trade back in the 1st round in order to pick up more picks. I've seen Mallett and Newton. Not impressed. I like Stanford's QB, but that ain't happening!

Big C 01-14-2011 10:16 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
[quote=Nomad;777982]Cam..... is a winner....... Locker on other hand, digressed this year.............[/quote]

blaine gabbert had a much worse year this year as well yet hes pegged as the number 1 qb.

SBXVII 01-14-2011 11:01 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
[quote=juskins;777953]The earlier you draft a QB will give you the best possibility of getting the QB of the future. There are exceptions to what I have stated, no doubt, but the law of average is on your side if you draft early. You could make the same argument no matter what position you select. I just think the first round is the round to take that gamble. Yes, it is a crap shoot as with any selection for any position.

The QBs further down the pecking order usually don't pan out - just saying.[/quote]

Well I think people have posted statistic's on this before and it's about 50/50 as to 1st round drafted QBs making vs. later round QBs making it. I think your right that the law of averages would in theory prove that at any position the higher the round the better the player. Otherwise more players of that position keep getting taken by other teams and your left with whats left... mediocracy?

I like to think the coaching staff would look at the players skills, abilities, speed, strength, agility, character, and smarts, all compared with the style of offense being run. This being said it might not be the expected #1 QB or #2 QB coming out in the draft that fits your system. An example would be Trent Williams. Everyone expecte the Skins to pick the next best LT on the board and they went with T.Williams.

Shadowbyte 01-14-2011 11:05 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
Based on previous warpath.net QB polls, the QB who people like the most will be the least sucsessful. The one everyone overlooks will end up being the stud. Plus, Cam won't be available at # 10, as the months go by - and he completes his interviews and private workouts for NFL teams, his stock is going to skyrocket.

53Fan 01-14-2011 11:21 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
I'm not trying to compare the two, but the thing with Locker you have to remember is, Dan Marino had a poor senior year compared to his junior year and his stock plummeted. He still turned out to be a pretty good QB. :pimp:

skinsfaninok 01-14-2011 11:22 PM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
I'm good friends with a MIZZ grad and he has seen Gabbert in person an has watched every game, this guy also coaches football and he says BG has a big arm but very inaccurate and caves under pressure, also lacks leadership on his own team, again that's just 1 persons view and he's not an expert obviously. I've watched him play quite a bit also and I'm not impressed, in fact I think the guy will be the next Tim Couch or Ryan Leaf.. If we draft him at 10 I'd be very disappointed I'd rather take locker or Mallett anyday, also he's not as mobile as folks think.

SkinzWin 01-15-2011 07:40 AM

Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?
 
[quote=BuckSkin;777983]Cameron Heyward proved to me that Mallett has trouble escaping a determined pass rusher. I'm going to jump on the Newton bandwagon.
I'm Buckskin and I approve this message.[/quote]

That's why you'd never make it in politics. You won't go far when you endorse busts. Cam Newton is like Sarah Palin. Flashy when they first get to the big stage, but stupid because because of all the dumb things they say and do. Just watch, he'll get interviewed for the draft and be quoted as saying something like, "Hey ya'll, I can see Russia from my house!"


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