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The funny thing is, when we cut Sushiam last year he was the scapegoat and the guy we brought in was Gano, "to give another guy a look." He has gone on to lead the NFL in missed field goals. Fail.

Hopefully we have better luck with this guy, but probably not.

With mounting holes of talent in this team, Id like us to address the kicking/punting game finally. With the endless resource of money we pay for worthless talent in the past and present (albert), why not put this into special teams with a solid kicker and punter? Id think it would help the situation. It would be nice to have at least one area this team solid.

[quote=Chico23231;769460]The funny thing is, when we cut Sushiam last year he was the scapegoat and the guy we brought in was Gano, "to give another guy a look." He has gone on to lead the NFL in missed field goals. Fail.

Hopefully we have better luck with this guy, but probably not.

With mounting holes of talent in this team, Id like us to address the kicking/punting game finally. With the endless resource of money we pay for worthless talent in the past and present (albert), why not put this into special teams with a solid kicker and punter? Id think it would help the situation. It would be nice to have at least one area this team solid.[/quote]

I know every hole is important to fill and make better if we can, but I feel like as long as the OLine, DLine, are glaring needs, as well as pretty much every other position except TE, we need to work on those first. Think about how many plays a game your offense and defensive players are on the field versus Teams. Yes, Teams is important, but there's no point in having top players there if you have shit lines and nothing good going for most of your other positions.

[quote=SkinzWin;769467]I know every hole is important to fill and make better if we can, but I feel like as long as the OLine, DLine, are glaring needs, as well as pretty much every other position except TE, we need to work on those first. Think about how many plays a game your offense and defensive players are on the field versus Teams. Yes, Teams is important, but there's no point in having top players there if you have shit lines and nothing good going for most of your other positions.[/quote]

Yeah, im not saying this is the priority over O or D lines, but look at the wasted expenses...a good kicker and punter in free agency are not that expensive. Your bang for your buck is better and worrying about fitting in to your system is not an issue.

It would be nice not to having a constant revolving door at the Punter/Kicker positions.

[quote=Hog1;769340]I am not sure if you are suggesting that a good P game has little advantage over a poor punting game? I do not think that is the case. AND changing the punter in this late part of the season has no meaning for this season, but obviously could have significant meaning in the field position game for next season. It is a great time to audition any potential.....weapons in game situations under fire (rather than training camp scenario).
Additionally I find impossible to believe that our current FO staff would endorse such a childish and thinly veiled move as to hand over the punters head as penance for a loss. H the P is a problem and losing him is a good thing. Find out if someone else can play in "game situations"....now.[/quote]

Of course a good punting game is better than a poor punting game. So, how come when the Skins were over .500 and looking at the playoffs - - remember, we had a thread here on just how the Skins would win the NFC East - - improving the punting game was not so important?

There are lots of other deficiencies on the 2010 squad. How many of them are also going to be jettisoned in the next couple of weeks to audtion new talent in game situations under fire (rather than in training camp scenarios)? Don't worry about needing the fingers on two hands to count those instances.

If you do not think that the Redskins organization is capable of scapegoating someone on the roster after a serious on-field blunder, you have not been paying attention either to the current owner of the team or to the current head coach.

When the 2010 season was still relevant, the team (coaches, FO and owner) had no problems with Hunter's punting, Gano's missing, Haynesworth's malingering etc. but once the season circled the drain and fans got very angry, then the team (coaches, FO and owner) "took action" to remedy things they said they recognized all along.

Sorry, I'm not shopping at that store...

[quote=Darrell_Green_28;769356]If I am not mistaking, I think they cut him because of his punts and mechanics were not to their liking.

[URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2010/12/15/shanahan-explains-the-release-of-hunter-smith/"]Mike Shanahan Explains The Release Of Hunter Smith[/URL][/quote]

Oh I know that is what is being said but I'm not buying it,come on 3 games left and this is what you think will send a meesage?

Smith wasn't part of the future anyway, who cares

[quote=Giantone;769510]Oh I know that is what is being said but I'm not buying it,come on 3 games left and this is what you think will send a meesage?[/quote]
I think it will send the message that H...it ain't happnin' for you here. I need to get some boys in here and run em' through some paces under live fire to see if we can find some answers....THIS season that will benefit us next season.
Do you see some sinister Mike "the axeman" Shannihan thing here?

I see Shanny "axeing" a new player for every loss from here on out.

[quote=Mattyk;769511]Smith wasn't part of the future anyway, who cares[/quote]

.....Mrs Smith but you're right.

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;769498]Of course a good punting game is better than a poor punting game. So, how come when the Skins were over .500 and looking at the playoffs - - remember, we had a thread here on just how the Skins would win the NFC East - - improving the punting game was not so important?

There are lots of other deficiencies on the 2010 squad. How many of them are also going to be jettisoned in the next couple of weeks to audtion new talent in game situations under fire (rather than in training camp scenarios)? Don't worry about needing the fingers on two hands to count those instances.

If you do not think that the Redskins organization is capable of scapegoating someone on the roster after a serious on-field blunder, you have not been paying attention either to the current owner of the team or to the current head coach.

When the 2010 season was still relevant, the team (coaches, FO and owner)[B] had no problems with Hunter's punting, Gano's missing, Haynesworth's malingering etc.[/B] but once the season circled the drain and fans got very angry, then the team (coaches, FO and owner) "took action" to remedy things they said they recognized all along.

Sorry, I'm not shopping at that store...[/quote]

As a matter of fact, Haynesworth performance and shannanigans on and off the field have been a daily issue since he arrived.........or didn't.
I think the punting and kicking game have been as well since we have had numerous misses that could have salted away a few games and "makeable" FG's failed.....and we lost.
Way to many times have Hunters efforts left a short field to the enemy needlessly.
I imagine the...botched "hold" the other day was simply the last straw in an erstwhile lackluster year or two. I really don't get how you read such sinister activities in this event?
AND if he used it to send a messgae to the rest of the team that mediocrity is not the key to a long Redskin career...you have a problem with that?

so i guess shanny is gonna set some records in dallas this week...

[url=http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/16/redskins-will-set-punting-record-in-2010/]Redskins Will Set Punting Record in 2010 -- NFL FanHouse[/url]

the last paragraph....

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Over the next 15 seasons, Washington used 17 kickers with only Suisham sticking around long enough to even try 70 field goals. Suisham, whose blown 23-yard chip shot to the same end zone at which Gano missed from 24 last Sunday cost the Redskins a huge upset of unbeaten New Orleans and then his job last December, is now with Pittsburgh for whom he has yet to miss.
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