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GridIron26 09-21-2010 10:22 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=The Goat;737285]The LJ signing and release, and the lack of RB talent on the roster, make me nervous. What's the plan again?[/quote]

Don't forget Shanny has history of finding RB gems..

Mc2guy 09-21-2010 10:27 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
I think LJ and WP were signed in the offseason for one reason only...Shanahan wasn't sure that Clinton was going to buy in and be a team guy and they needed a veteran in the backfield to lead the young guys. With CP stepping up and LJ looking ancient, this was a foregone conclusion.

I would look for Shanahan to try and find a hidden gem either through a trade or in the late round of the draft. He has never looked for first (or even second) round talent at RB...just young guys with a quick initial cut and burst.

You don't have to be Chris Johnson to do well in Shanahan's run system, but you better have a decent first cut and some explosion through the hole. Clinton, god love him, just doesn't have the burst any more. LJ didn't have either.

BTW, on a personal note, I couldn't be happier to see that d-bag misogynist shown the door.

itvnetop 09-21-2010 10:39 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=12thMan;737250]I'm not buying it. Running backs get paid to find holes and run through them. He might have still have something left in the tank, but definitely not as a featured back.[/quote]

LOL... I was talking about Keiland Williams. Larry Johnson is done.

Ruhskins 09-21-2010 11:05 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=The Goat;737285]The LJ signing and release, and the lack of RB talent on the roster, make me nervous. What's the plan again?[/quote]

I guess put your trust on K. Williams as the back up? I dunno, not too crazy with the running game in general.

SirClintonPortis 09-21-2010 11:09 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
Even though I made a call to improve the trenches. I MUST point out that we should let them settle into the zone-blocking scheme a bit first before panicking.

takethecake 09-21-2010 11:15 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=backrow;737279]I was really hoping the Burgandy and Gold would've cut Reed (The Witness) Doughty.[/quote]

Because clearly doughty is the problem with this team... :hater:

Ruhskins 09-21-2010 11:25 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=takethecake;737303]Because clearly doughty is the problem with this team... :hater:[/quote]

Apparently.

Reed Doughty made Jammal Brown commit that false start
Doughty told Phillip Buchanon to not worry about Andre Johnson on that TD pass
He's the reason why Fred Davis didn't block Bernard Pollard
Doughty told Haslett to go crazy with the blitzing, and forget about coverage

Did I miss anything else? [/sarcasm]

SFREDSKIN 09-21-2010 11:33 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=Ruhskins;737310]Apparently.

Reed Doughty made Jammal Brown commit that false start
Doughty told Phillip Buchanon to not worry about Andre Johnson on that TD pass
He's the reason why Fred Davis didn't block Bernard Pollard
Doughty told Haslett to go crazy with the blitzing, and forget about coverage

Did I miss anything else? [/sarcasm][/quote]

One more thing:

He made Rogers uncover Walters. That guy had a field day against Carlos.

Dirtbag59 09-21-2010 11:54 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;737301]Even though I made a call to improve the trenches. I MUST point out that we should let them settle into the zone-blocking scheme a bit first before panicking.[/quote]

This. On paper the line is just as talented as any line Shanahan has coached. The only difference being the starting Guards are a little less fleet of foot. Also I think it should be noted that the reason Chad Simpson was signed was because he has experience, and even a little taste of success, in Indy's zone blocking scheme.

FRPLG 09-21-2010 11:55 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
Ok so ho hum. LJ isn't what he used to be and doesn't fit our scheme.

I am more interested in why we picked up Simpson to replace him. If we needed a back then Torain gets promoted. So for some reason we needed a SP back. For what? There is more to this. There has to be. Otherwise we cut LJ and replace him with a PS guy right? What the heck to do we need this guy for? He isn't going to return kicks. Right? WTF?

SFREDSKIN 09-21-2010 11:59 PM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=FRPLG;737324]Ok so ho hum. LJ isn't what he used to be and doesn't fit our scheme.

I am more interested in why we picked up Simpson to replace him. If we needed a back then Torain gets promoted. So for some reason we needed a SP back. For what? There is more to this. There has to be. Otherwise we cut LJ and replace him with a PS guy right? What the heck to do we need this guy for? He isn't going to return kicks. Right? WTF?[/quote]

I read somewhere he excels at Special Teams.

FRPLG 09-22-2010 12:02 AM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;737325]I read somewhere he excels at Special Teams.[/quote]

My question is why did we get him? Who is hurt? I just read on PFT we have "multiple" injuries to teamers. Who?

takethecake 09-22-2010 12:07 AM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
Maybe we just need some fresh legs, I don't really know. If there's a silver lining in not promoting torain, it may be that the scouting staff saw something in simpson that would suggest a good fit with the blocking scheme. Before we bash the staff for keeping torain on the PS, let's at least see what this new guy can do.

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-22-2010 12:11 AM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=Mc2guy;737289]I think LJ and WP were signed in the offseason for one reason only...Shanahan wasn't sure that Clinton was going to buy in and be a team guy and they needed a veteran in the backfield to lead the young guys. With CP stepping up and LJ looking ancient, this was a foregone conclusion.

I would look for Shanahan to try and find a hidden gem either through a trade or in the late round of the draft. He has never looked for first (or even second) round talent at RB...just young guys with a quick initial cut and burst.

You don't have to be Chris Johnson to do well in Shanahan's run system, but you better have a decent first cut and some explosion through the hole. Clinton, god love him, just doesn't have the burst any more. LJ didn't have either.

BTW, on a personal note, I couldn't be happier to see that d-bag misogynist shown the door.[/quote]

He took Tatum Bell in the 2nd round.

Lotus 09-22-2010 12:33 AM

Re: Larry Johnson Cut
 
[quote=FRPLG;737326]My question is why did we get him? Who is hurt? I just read on PFT we have "multiple" injuries to teamers. Who?[/quote]

Yeah, I think PFT was wrong about that.

But I also think that Shanny wants to try someone else at returns until Banks learns not to put the ball on the ground.


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