Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

It will never happen. JaMarcus doesnt appear to even have the ability. Failed QB's that enjoy a career re-surgance usually have good basic skills, coupled with a good team that can mask their deficiencies. The best example i can think of is Trent Green. He was mediocre at best, but finally found success with Kansas City's punishing running game, and at-that-time brilliant offensive playcalling...he had a good base set of skills to thrive on a great team.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

It doesnt seem like Russell really cares about playing professional football. I think he's happy having gotten paid an obscene amount of money. If ever decides he wants to play football again, the AFL might be his only option (does it even still exist?). I dont think he could make a CFL or UFL roster.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

There are guys who really care about football and want to be one of the best. They really get off on the game. There are guys who only want to be rich. I think Russell falls in the latter category.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

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Bodog Jamarcus Russell's next team odds: Cardinals 3/1, Bills 7/2, Jaguars 4/1, Miami 6/1, Bengals 7/1, 49ers 15/2, Titans 8/1, CFL 10/1

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

Shame because the guy has the physical tools to be one of the greatest ever. Can't make someone like football though.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

[quote=SmootSmack;699247]We've all seen guys (both players and coaches) find success with their 2nd (or even 3rd) team after failing early. But I can't ever remember a highly drafted QB coming back after failing early to have any sort of significant NFL career (McCown, Couch, Smith, Ware, etc)[/quote]

Good point, especially the #1 overall. The only guy I can think of that fits the bill is Tommy Maddox, who was I believe eas a late 1st round pick by Denver, but years later had some success w/Pitt.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

This might be the best thing for Russell. He needs to be humbled. It just seems that he wasn't mature enough to handle the responsibility that comes w/ being a starting NFL QB. He needed another year in school. But it's hard to blame him when he was going to be a top 5 pick.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

[quote=Mattyk;699255]Ryan Leaf got a 2nd chance, so I have to imagine JR will get one at some point.

There definitely needs to be a rookie payscale. It's just insane the amount of money these unproven rooks get. And you have to wonder how much the $$ part of things plays into some of these guys busting. There's no carrot for them to chase, they're instant multi-millionaires without putting in an ounce of work at the NFL level.[/quote]

So did Heath Shuler. I agree, someone will pick him up.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;699294]It will never happen. JaMarcus doesnt appear to even have the ability. Failed QB's that enjoy a career re-surgance usually have good basic skills, coupled with a good team that can mask their deficiencies. The best example i can think of is Trent Green. He was mediocre at best, but finally found success with Kansas City's punishing running game, and at-that-time brilliant offensive playcalling...he had a good base set of skills to thrive on a great team.[/quote]

The ability is there, the guy has a big time arm. The mental part and the committment to working is what isn't there.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

[quote=BleedBurgundy;699289]The thing is, given the feud between Shanahan and Al Davis, it would probably be a bit tempting on some level for MS to take Davis' former first round pick and turn him into a starting caliber QB.[/quote]

IF we never got McNabb and were looking at a Grossman/Brennan/Bartel depth chart...then maybe it would be a risk he'd take.

Not going to happen now though.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

Russell replaces Ryan Leaf as a the Gold Standard for draft busts.

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[quote=SouperMeister;699408]Russell replaces Ryan Leaf as a the Gold Standard for draft busts.[/quote]

no doubt about it.

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

[quote=Riggo44;699102]Because then what would happen to #15:confused-[/quote]

I wouldn't mind bringing him in for an extra arm for mini-camps and Training camp. And if #15 can't beat out Russell in those camps/preseason, then he doesnt deserve to play for us anyway. Im actually a big fan of #15 but id let the best man win.

Jimbo Fisher (with LSU with Russell and now of Florida State fame) said he was a smart player, would go up to the line with 3-4 audibles. And that same performance is what made him an overall #1 pick in the 1st place. Who the hell was Russell's offensive coordinators in Oakland? Greg Knapp? Who? And last year they DIDNT EVEN HAVE an offensive coordinator. If you watch sum lowlights of the raiders last season, theres like 3 receivers in the same area on MOST plays. OF COURSE your gon throw interceptions if you let the defense cover everyone with less men, if all the receivers go to the same zone.

All im sayin is Brennan is turning 27 in August. Thats pretty old for a developmental QB. Jamarcus is two years younger, and Donovan McNabb LOVES tutoring african american quarterbacks. Not to mention, the Shanahan's are PHENOMENAL offensive coordinators So if Russell could beat out Brennan (needs to get in shape, attitude towards being good), then so be it. LONG LIVE COMPETITION~

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

[quote=NYCskinfan82;699086]Vet min & learn under DM, i don't see it happening but if the FO thought it was a good thing i would support it.

HTTR.[/quote]


Hell no!!!!!!!! We would be better served signing up Gus Frerotte than Russell!!!!

Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell
 

[quote=PHazard;699491]I wouldn't mind bringing him in for an extra arm for mini-camps and Training camp. And if #15 can't beat out Russell in those camps/preseason, then he doesnt deserve to play for us anyway. Im actually a big fan of #15 but id let the best man win.

Jimbo Fisher (with LSU with Russell and now of Florida State fame) said he was a smart player, would go up to the line with 3-4 audibles. And that same performance is what made him an overall #1 pick in the 1st place. Who the hell was Russell's offensive coordinators in Oakland? Greg Knapp? Who? And last year they DIDNT EVEN HAVE an offensive coordinator. If you watch sum lowlights of the raiders last season, theres like 3 receivers in the same area on MOST plays. OF COURSE your gon throw interceptions if you let the defense cover everyone with less men, if all the receivers go to the same zone.

All im sayin is Brennan is turning 27 in August. Thats pretty old for a developmental QB. Jamarcus is two years younger, and Donovan McNabb LOVES tutoring african american quarterbacks. Not to mention, the Shanahan's are PHENOMENAL offensive coordinators So if Russell could beat out Brennan (needs to get in shape, attitude towards being good), then so be it. LONG LIVE COMPETITION~[/quote]


IF Brennan can't beat Russell in camp that would be extremely sad at this point. THen it would be Frerotte>Russell>Brennan. Pretty dam pathetic if your scenario goes down. Frerotte would be better than our 3rd string QB and the last time I heard he is at home. In short, we would be better served in bringing Frerotte back than Russell.