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[quote=CRedskinsRule;626369]How was field position not taken into account? In both equations the field position of Indy taking control of the ball is accounted for. I remember Zorn did something similar back in his glory days of 6-2 and was hailed for being gutsy. Sometimes as a head coach you grab the game and go for it. That said I would have punted.[/quote]

I probably would have punted also,the only reason being is if you punt you dont get second guessed for punting.That said,I dont think it was a bad call,Manning was tearing them a new ass and that would have sealed it for the Pats if they made it.Your right about Zorn,last yr if I remember right he went for it twice on 4th down at the end of games to seal the victory and I was like"hell yeah" because you knew Gibbs would have punted and the other team would have took it and scored.If Pats would have made it everyones talking about what a great call it was.What it was was one gutsy call,depending on the players to make a play,it just didnt work out this time.

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Darrius Heyward-Bey turned a catch that would have set up a first and goal to win the game into a Mike Brown game clinching interception by showing hands of stone. He was the 7th overall pick in this years draft, ahead of Michael Crabtree.

Here's how bad it's gotten in Oakland:

When this happened, not one person was either surprised or disappointed. Observers fully expect the teams' most highly paid players to be utterly incompetent.

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Did anyone else suffer through any of that debacle last night? You think we have it bad... Cleveland has one of the worst offenses I've seen in recent memory.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;626479]I take back everything I said about Brady Quinn. That dude is terribad! We can forget about Clausen next year because he's going to be a Cleveland Brown.[/quote]

Wanna bet they take the NEXT great QB prospect from Notre Dame?

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[quote=Mattyk72;626557]Did anyone else suffer through any of that debacle last night? You think we have it bad... Cleveland has one of the worst offenses I've seen in recent memory.[/quote]

I did. I had a 15 point lead going in and my opponent had Balt's defense. F*ck Cleveland.

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How many times did Quinn throw the ball out of bounds with nobody around? I think he's still got some potential and needs to get the hell outta there, but man he is so lost right now.

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[quote=Mattyk72;626578]How many times did Quinn throw the ball out of bounds with nobody around? I think he's still got some potential and needs to get the hell outta there, but man he is so lost right now.[/quote]

This is a prime example of a young QB getting dicked around and not being able to handle it. I think right now in the nFL you either bring a young guy in and start him straight away and try to build with the guy or you sit him one year and then hand him the reigns. Either way you have to protect him adequately and not shuffle him in and out. That is so killer to the development. He needs out of there.

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[quote=Mattyk72;626578]How many times did Quinn throw the ball out of bounds with nobody around? I think he's still got some potential and needs to get the hell outta there, but man he is so lost right now.[/quote]

I don't know how this guy made it in the 1st round and everyone saw why Mangini stuck w/ Anderson so long. Quinn simply gives Clev no chance to have any kind of down field passing game.

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Quinn looked HORRIBLE. They had an easy gameplan set up for him, almost all screen passes...and they were sailing over the WRs heads. When the WRs actually had to run a route, he'd throw a pass into an area where no player from either team was within 20 yards of the ball!

He just looks lost.

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The first half of that Browns-Ravens game, especially, was terrible to watch. I love defensive football but it wasn't rock-solid defenses, it was pathetic offenses. Watching him play, it is hard to believe that Quinn was drafted in the first round.

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[quote=skinsfan69;626617]I don't know how this guy made it in the 1st round and everyone saw why Mangini stuck w/ Anderson so long. Quinn simply gives Clev no chance to have any kind of down field passing game.[/quote]

Well they certainly don't give him the chance. They either call a bubble screen/reg screen/3yd slant or he drops back and gets sacked. I can't honestly say whether he's any good or not.

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[quote=FRPLG;626575]I did. I had a 15 point lead going in and my opponent had Balt's defense. F*ck Cleveland.[/quote]

Yeah. I watched that. I was sure you had the win but I just didn't count on Cleve's ineptitude.

[In line with the posts at the yahoo site, must be frustrating - you had the third highest fantasy score for the week, and lost. If it's any consolation, I had the 5th highest and still was on the losing end of the "Blowout of the Week". lol]

I thought at one time Quinn had potential - I think he is officially a bust. Not sure he is even solid back up material. He can't throw the ball downfield and, as others have said, just is lost.

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It was sad to watch the Browns defense play the way they did missing 2 key starters and have their offense just lay a d@mn egg the way they did. Hats off to those guys for not giving up.

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[quote=FRPLG;626691]Well they certainly don't give him the chance. They either call a bubble screen/reg screen/3yd slant or he drops back and gets sacked. I can't honestly say whether he's any good or not.[/quote]

The few times he got to throw it down field he threw the ball like shit. He stinks, maybe worse than Russell.

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[quote=skinsfan69;626799]The few times he got to throw it down field he threw the ball like shit. He stinks, maybe worse than Russell.[/quote]LOL.

Well, can't blame you for going down fighting. I can respect that.