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[quote=SmootSmack;294818]Odd request. I'll PM it to you

So is it safe to say Jonathan Eubanks has no shot now?[/quote]


bascially

Re: David Macklin our new CB
 

[quote=Grim21Reaper;294798]O.k. I know I should let this go but I can't.

Please for my benefit, will one person in the Warpath forum explain to me how moving Springs to safety would make any sense next year? I have asked this before and did not receive a response. Even more baffling would be cutting him.

Let's get the facts out on the table:

There is no top corner available and certainly no one is going to come cheaper than Springs.

David Macklin is no Springs. He probably isn't as good as Smoot or Rogers so why do people think that signing him means Springs is going to be traded or released on June 1st?

The Redskins do not have any cap issues right now so a Springs restructure is not needed.

If they cut Springs they make a mediocre defense (at this point in time) worse. Everybody and their third cousin knows that the problem last year was defense. The big signings in the offseason were made to bolster the D and create depth on a terrible 2006 unit. If they release Springs or move him to safety they have taken one step forward and two steps back.

Springs is the best corner on the team. No one can argue that. He has the ability to shut down or slow down the other team's best receiver on a consistent basis. No other corner on the team has shown this ability. Rogers and Smoot are good against the run but not as good as Springs.

Springs is the highest paid player in the secondary (if not the entire D). Why would you put that player in a safety role because you picked up two guys who didn't work out on their last teams?

So, please, explain to me why cutting him or removing him from one of the most important positions on the defense would make any sense whatsoever.[/quote]

A couple reasons:

Our secondary couldn't cover for shitake mushrooms last year. Part of it was the CBs, part of it was the lack of pressure on the QB, and part of it was the safeties were lacking in coverage skills. When Prioleau went down, we were left with nobody who could cover at safety. We've got no idea if Prioleau is going to come back strong.

Springs is getting older and isn't as fast as he used to be.

Maybe GW has some ideas for new wrinkles in the scheme. If I were him, I'd be very concerned about the fact that we only got 19 sacks last year. I also remember seeing us use the corner blitz A LOT less often this past season. Reason? When you blitz the CBs, you put the onus on the safeties to cover up. Our safeties sucked balls in coverage, hence GW didn't feel comfortable blitzing the CBs and relying on the safeties. You know Springs can be relied upon to cover up very well at the safety spot; GW will be free to use the CB blitz more often. And let's face it, we need to figure out any way possible to generate pressure on the QB after the season we just had.

Re: David Macklin our new CB
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;294820]man what r u talking about i was trying to find one for my cousin look at my threads they arent dumb and i was trying to find one fr my cuz cause he's on this site and he said he couldnt find one so he told me to ask anyone on this site for one i was being serious not trying to be funny and if i make everyone crazy why hasnt anyone said something to me man for real schneed back off man i was being serious so just calm down no reason to try to go hulk ok man seriously it was one response i was making for my cousin so for real back off[/quote]

I know you were being serious. I'm saying that your question should not have been asked in this thread. Forum etiquette - stay on topic.

Re: David Macklin our new CB
 

[quote=Schneed10;294827]I know you were being serious. I'm saying that your question should not have been asked in this thread. Forum etiquette - stay on topic.[/quote]


whatever man i am not going to pull a porterhouse just had nowhere else to put it

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see i told you guys he was going to sign, he said it when he came in to my dicks sporting goods store in newport news

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[QUOTE=charlielyons;294831]see i told you guys he was going to sign, he said it when he came in to my dicks sporting goods store in newport news[/QUOTE]

That's not exactly what you said, but it doesn't matter

Re: David Macklin our new CB
 

[quote=charlielyons;294831]see i told you guys he was going to sign, he said it when he came in to my dicks sporting goods store in newport news[/quote]
Your Dick's store in NN, who might you be?

Re: David Macklin our new CB
 

[quote=SmootSmack;294833]That's not exactly what you said, but it doesn't matter[/quote]
well to be exact he said he had a meeting in dc and i told him to come play close to home

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;294835]Your Dick's store in NN, who might you be?[/quote]
charlie-sales manager

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I wanna see a fight

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[quote=Profootballtalk.com]
POSTED 10:08 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 11:03 p.m. EDT, April 5, 2007

MACKLIN GIVES 'SKINS A DISCOUNT

The Washington Redskins have a reputation for overpaying free agents. On Thursday, a free agent specifically took less money for a chance to join the team.

Per Adam Schefter of NFL Network, cornerback David Macklin rejected more lucrative offers from the Chiefs and Eagles to sign a one-year, $760,000 deal with the 'Skins.

Macklin accepted the lower deal because he is from Newport News, Virginia, and grew up as a Redskins fan. Also, Macklin always wanted to play for Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs.

Macklin is a seven-year veteran who spent the first fiour seasons of his career with the Colts and the last three with the Cardinals. He started the last six games of the 2006 season in Arizona.
[/quote]

Well no sh*t! Let's bask in the glory here some. We don't get chances like this to gloat too often. Maybe we'll make up for it by signing John Carney to a 8 year $29M contract or something

Re: David Macklin our new CB
 

[quote=Grim21Reaper;294798]O.k. I know I should let this go but I can't.

Please for my benefit, will one person in the Warpath forum explain to me how moving Springs to safety would make any sense next year? I have asked this before and did not receive a response. Even more baffling

would be cutting him.





Springs is the best corner on the team.



So, please, explain to me why cutting him or removing him from one of the most important positions on the defense would make any sense whatsoever.[/quote]
i totally agree. but remember, these are the same fans that want just about everyone to switch positions and be a pro bowler when doing it.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;294869]i totally agree. but remember, these are the same fans that want just about everyone to switch positions and be a pro bowler when doing it.[/QUOTE]

You say that like it's hard or something.

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[quote=SmootSmack;294701]I like this move. I know there were several of us clamoring for him. Good depth. We still have no heir apparent to Springs to be a "#1 corner" though[/quote]

maybe its because time has faded some of my memories of carlos' play last year but coming into his 3rd season under g williams it is time he steps up and becomes our #1 corner . . i think a healthy springs is alot better than carlos but with a less than 100% springs (did he ever get that surgery or is he going to "tough it out" again?) due 7 plus mil this year and more next year the time is now to trade him (if possible, lions seem desperate but that means CJ and no DL, doh!) . . if we wait a year we mostly likely will have to cut him and get nothing in return and maybe less friendly cap consequences than a trade scenario . . . i loved springs when he was healthy, really solidified a good bit of our D but i think his time has come and rogers has arrived, he will continue to grow just hang on to the damn ball!!!!!

Re: David Macklin our new CB
 

[quote=Schneed10;294825]A couple reasons:

Our secondary couldn't cover for shitake mushrooms last year. Part of it was the CBs, part of it was the lack of pressure on the QB, and part of it was the safeties were lacking in coverage skills. When Prioleau went down, we were left with nobody who could cover at safety. We've got no idea if Prioleau is going to come back strong.

Springs is getting older and isn't as fast as he used to be.

Maybe GW has some ideas for new wrinkles in the scheme. If I were him, I'd be very concerned about the fact that we only got 19 sacks last year. I also remember seeing us use the corner blitz A LOT less often this past season. Reason? When you blitz the CBs, you put the onus on the safeties to cover up. Our safeties sucked balls in coverage, hence GW didn't feel comfortable blitzing the CBs and relying on the safeties. You know Springs can be relied upon to cover up very well at the safety spot; GW will be free to use the CB blitz more often. And let's face it, we need to figure out any way possible to generate pressure on the QB after the season we just had.[/quote]

I am not buying.

Stoutmire will be fine as the cover safety if PP can't handle it yet. Fox showed that he can contribute as well. I would say it makes more sense to turn Rogers, Smoot or Macklin into a safety before junking your best cover corner.

Springs had a hurt groin. That will typically slow you down. When he was interviewed out in Arizona he said his speed was fine and that he felt great.

Springs was hurt all year and was still the best CB. You are going to let Rogers or Smoot cover number ones? I don't think so. That would be a terrible decision.

Rebuilding a defense starting with a cover safety doesn't make sense. Having 2 #2 corners is going to be a bigger hole than having an average cover safety.

What good is generating additional pressure if they can just lob it to their #1 wideout.

I still have not seen a viable argument how the defense is better by removing the best cornerback.