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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]He was kidding. Re-read the article on the quote. I'll find it and post it after the Weasels game.[/QUOTE]

well, TAFKAS said he wanted proof he actually said it, and its sitting on redskins.com for all to see, I was just pointing it out.

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You have to trust Gibbs on this. He must truely believe that Ramsey can not be a winning NFL QB. Gibbs does not have a mean bone in his body so this is nothing personal. he has to make the decision that he feels is best for the Redskins and he's doing that. I will second guess Gibbs when I feel like I know more football than he does. I am not there yet though...

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]
Please post proof of Brunell saying he couldn't make that throw.
[/QUOTE]

You want proof go to the Redskins.com website and download the press conference you will need the Real Player media player fast forwarded to the 20 min 4 second mark and then 22 min 13 second mark and you will have all of the "proof" that you will need.

As for me I have had enough of this horse shit. This franchise is even more of joke than before. You don't treat a player like Gibbs has treated Ramsey, if he is no good then cut'em or trade him, but to basically bald face lie and ruin a young man's confidence when you are already enshrined in Canton Ohio is pathetic. Gibbs was a good coach, but Gibbs II as GM/Coach the jury is still out.

If I end up being wrong so be it, others can gloat and call me out, say my opinion/posts are poop. I could careless. I am only pissed that I shelled out over $300 dollars for two tickets to see two games and for parking, only to be in store for Brunell ball. May have to spend another $300 on beer just to get thru the games.

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[QUOTE=celts32]You have to trust Gibbs on this. He must truely believe that Ramsey can not be a winning NFL QB. Gibbs does not have a mean bone in his body so this is nothing personal. he has to make the decision that he feels is best for the Redskins and he's doing that. I will second guess Gibbs when I feel like I know more football than he does. I am not there yet though...[/QUOTE]

Yes, we must trust Gibbs.

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[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]If I end up being wrong so be it, others can gloat and call me out, say my opinion/posts are poop. I could careless. I am only pissed that I shelled out over $300 dollars for two tickets to see two games and for parking, only to be in store for Brunell ball. May have to spend another $300 on beer just to get thru the games.[/QUOTE]

Are you going to watch the team or were you just looking forward to watching Ramsey play? What will you do if Brunell is playing and the Redskins win, even if it's 9-7? Still complain?

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was keeping Brunell in so long last season for a 6-10 record "good for the team"?

Gibbs is a great coach, but he's human. and that means flawed like any other human. he's noted for his pride, and i think he didn't want *his* team playing without *his* QB. he's entitled to run this team how he wants (especially the Redskins), but then he shouldn't really say everything he does is truly "good for the team"

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]TAFKAS:

Can I have a spot on the Bandwagon with you guys, too? Hail to the Redskins...no matter who the QB is! I've been with them through the glory years, and if they're going down in flames, I'll go down with them![/QUOTE]

Always room my burgundy brother

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[QUOTE=That Guy]well, TAFKAS said he wanted proof he actually said it, and its sitting on redskins.com for all to see, I was just pointing it out.[/QUOTE]

When did I ask for that?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Are you going to watch the team or were you just looking forward to watching Ramsey play? What will you do if Brunell is playing and the Redskins win, even if it's 9-7? Still complain?[/QUOTE]

If the Redskins win, a win is win. I take issue with how Ramsey was treated, if he was not going to be the starter then why and the hell say he is our starter in the off season? If we are going to play like the Ravens superbowl championship team, then so be it, but why bother making the investment in Ramsey for this season? Why not trade him and get another veteran to back-up Brunnel, play it close and let the defence win the games?

Perhaps this last option was not feasible because of the salary cap, it is the just the whole way it is handled does not seem right or honest. The last two things being key, for that is whay I expect from Gibbs his name is practically synomous with the words honesty and integrity. This situation should have been handled better for the good of the team, now there are most likely seeds of distrust that are planted inside the locker room, hopefully it will not spread for it will ruin the team. No one, Gibbs included is above the team.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Are you going to watch the team or were you just looking forward to watching Ramsey play? What will you do if Brunell is playing and the Redskins win, even if it's 9-7? Still complain?[/QUOTE]

Word, I mean why cry over it this is why Gibbs is here. He's the coach, he's the F$#@ing man, he 's the guy who's lifted up the lombardi trophy over and over. We hired him to make the decisions that others wouldn't, couldn't under danny snyder. He 's made the call now let's see if he brings the wood.

This hurts because we like PR because he went through hell with Spurrier. However this doesn't mean he's gonna be the underdog hero like Rudy, I mean this isn't f@#$ing hollywood this is the NFL. When you don't meet the standard set by your boss someone else gets a shot no matter what the fans, the Ape Terry Bradshaw, media, or anybody says.

Support the general...let the streets flow with the blood of the non believers.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]When did I ask for that?[/QUOTE]

Don't blame TAFKAS, it was me.

And Brunell said it in jest.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Don't blame TAFKAS, it was me.

And Brunell said it in jest.[/QUOTE]

sorry, my bad, and even in jest, with his past, maybe joking about it isn't a great idea...

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Well there goes two seasons down the tubes.

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Don't think that if Brunell stinks up the joint Gibbs won't have a shorter leash on him either. Gibbs plain and simple does not like mistakes and I understand a little better what transpired now, and even though I still don't agree with it there is a lot of football left to be played so don't count anyone out yet!!!!! Our new backup may not be finished with our team yet. :)

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[QUOTE=skinsfan0201]Don't think that if Brunell stinks up the joint Gibbs won't have a shorter leash on him either. Gibbs plain and simple does not like mistakes and I understand a little better what transpired now, and even though I still don't agree with it there is a lot of football left to be played so don't count anyone out yet!!!!! Our new backup may not be finished with our team yet. :)[/QUOTE]

Gibbs absorbed 10 games worth of mistakes, as long as they were from Mark.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Well I have gone on record as saying I don't think last year was all Brunell's fault. And regardless of the fact that it was against 2nd stringers this preseason Brunell showed that he still makes good decisions and has some zip on his passes. I was happy to see that Brunell could still play this game and was pleased to see that we had a solid backup QB who could step in when called upon.

Well now he's been called upon and I'll be driving the Brunell Bandwagon with Matty riding shotgun. I'll be in a neighborhood near you next Tuesday morning to pick up the Redskins fans that want to get on board.[/QUOTE]

In retrospect, we shouldn't be surprised by Ramsey's benching, didn't we post it on these very boards, wasn't this mentioned in chat.....Gibbs won't tolerate costly mistakes....the thing that caught my eye in the Post article was, "But Ramsey showed a penchant to commit turnovers at critical times."
Gibbs wants to win and made his decision......I'll support my coach and team.........all I want to do is BEAT DALLAS.........I feel bad for Ramsey, but when all I read was how confident Ramsey was supposed to be this year, but when I saw him in actual games, it didn't appear he actually had that confidence, he still had "happy feet" and committed some bad mistakes........ Remember, it could be worse, we could have Tony Romo or Drew Henson as our backup QBs...............

:dallas:

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I trust Joe Gibbs.
People are freaking out about this.
It comes down to winning this coming week. Gibbs believes Brunell is our best shot at beating the Cowboys on MNF. We could have a different QB another week. People need to relax around here or find another team. I like this team we have better than the last 10 or so. They seem to be 'a team'. I'm glad we're not signing castoffs like Deion, Bruce Smith, etc. Also remember we won a SB that during the season we had several different starting QB's. If ya wanna trash Gibbs then go ahead and if ya wanna throw in the towel between wk1-wk2 I ain't gonna stop ya. But I've been here for the long haul and I'll continue to support Joe Gibbs and his organization. GO REDSKINS and the real fans!!!

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[QUOTE=Luxorreb]I trust Joe Gibbs.
People are freaking out about this.
It comes down to winning this coming week. Gibbs believes Brunell is our best shot at beating the Cowboys on MNF. We could have a different QB another week. People need to relax around here or find another team. I like this team we have better than the last 10 or so. They seem to be 'a team'. I'm glad we're not signing castoffs like Deion, Bruce Smith, etc. Also remember we won a SB that during the season we had several different starting QB's. If ya wanna trash Gibbs then go ahead and if ya wanna throw in the towel between wk1-wk2 I ain't gonna stop ya. But I've been here for the long haul and I'll continue to support Joe Gibbs and his organization. GO REDSKINS and the real fans!!![/QUOTE]

what makes Brunell not a 'castoff' like Sanders, George or Smith? a couple preseason games?

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[QUOTE=STPainmaker]Word, I mean why cry over it this is why Gibbs is here. He's the coach, he's the F$#@ing man, he 's the guy who's lifted up the lombardi trophy over and over. We hired him to make the decisions that others wouldn't, couldn't under danny snyder. He 's made the call now let's see if he brings the wood.

This hurts because we like PR because he went through hell with Spurrier. However this doesn't mean he's gonna be the underdog hero like Rudy, I mean this isn't f@#$ing hollywood this is the NFL. When you don't meet the standard set by your boss someone else gets a shot no matter what the fans, the Ape Terry Bradshaw, media, or anybody says.

Support the general...let the streets flow with the blood of the non believers.[/QUOTE]

Right on, man! Preach it, Brotha!!!

That sums it all up pretty nicely. :D

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[QUOTE=monk81]In retrospect, we shouldn't be surprised by Ramsey's benching, didn't we post it on these very boards, wasn't this mentioned in chat.....Gibbs won't tolerate costly mistakes....the thing that caught my eye in the Post article was, "But Ramsey showed a penchant to commit turnovers at critical times."
Gibbs wants to win and made his decision......I'll support my coach and team.........all I want to do is BEAT DALLAS.........I feel bad for Ramsey, but when all I read was how confident Ramsey was supposed to be this year, but when I saw him in actual games, it didn't appear he actually had that confidence, he still had "happy feet" and committed some bad mistakes........ Remember, it could be worse, we could have Tony Romo or Drew Henson as our backup QBs...............

:dallas:[/QUOTE]


Really? He didn't mind Brunell serving up turnovers last season, and none were more costly than his turnovers against the Ravens, and I believe the Giants that led to 2 defensive TD's, which in turn we lost those games and those scores were the difference, and kept us out of the playoffs.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Well I have gone on record as saying I don't think last year was all Brunell's fault. And regardless of the fact that it was against 2nd stringers this preseason Brunell showed that he still makes good decisions and has some zip on his passes. I was happy to see that Brunell could still play this game and was pleased to see that we had a solid backup QB who could step in when called upon.

Well now he's been called upon and I'll be driving the Brunell Bandwagon with Matty riding shotgun. I'll be in a neighborhood near you next Tuesday morning to pick up the Redskins fans that want to get on board.[/QUOTE]

Oh, you didn't know? I made the wheels for that bandwagon and put a Big Block Engine in that baby! Move over, cus Coach Gibbs is in the driver seat! All you real fans better fasten your safety belts, because we're goin' 110 MPH and the next stop is Dallas! Final stop.... Detroit!

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[QUOTE=offiss]Really? He didn't mind Brunell serving up turnovers last season, and none were more costly than his turnovers against the Ravens, and I believe the Giants that led to 2 defensive TD's, which in turn we lost those games and those scores were the difference, and kept us out of the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Those turn overs in the Giants game were because of Clinton Portis. He fumble 5 times and got benched for Ladell Betts afterwards.

Edit: Not to mention Ramsey comming in the Game and throwing a Pick the first time he got near the endzone. So he gave up at least 3 points right there.

Seeing that broke my heart because I was the biggest Ramsey supporter out there, and I WANTED him to start.

Now he got his shot and I didn't like what I saw.

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Brunell is not a castoff. He's an insurance policy that's being cashed in. WK 2 Dallas. If we are to have a chance at the Superbowl Brunell woulda had to have been involved at some point.

Joe Knows... please pick me up in the AM my man. I'm forever on the Redskins wagon!!! GO SKINS!!! In Gibbs We Trust!

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gibbs has a crippling fear of mistakes, and he hate when ramsey makes them, but he turns a blind eye when brunell cant throw at all and also makes mistakes (fumbles returned for TDs etc). Ramsey "isn't playing smart football" while brunell is "super super smart" and "really fighting his guts out."

we'll see how it goes...

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[QUOTE=That Guy]gibbs has a crippling fear of mistakes, and he hate when ramsey makes them, but he turns a blind eye when brunell cant throw at all and also makes mistakes (fumbles returned for TDs etc). Ramsey "isn't playing smart football" while brunell is "super super smart" and "really fighting his guts out."

we'll see how it goes...[/QUOTE]

100% agreed, it is pretty sickening the two different standards of perfromance. I really don't see all of this 'zip' on the ball that Brunell throws. I wish the Skins the best and want them to win, but the realist in me is highly doubtful this will happen in Dallas with Brunell at the helm.

It will be interesting as the season progresses and if Gibbs ends up rotating QBs ala Steve Spurrier what the reaction will be in this town. Spurrier ends up getting maligned for doing this, but with St. Joe, thou shall not speak any evil.

As for the Brunell Bandwagon, I'll be real suprised if it even gets out of the driveway this upcoming Monday night game.

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About 4 weeks ago I said that Gibbs has no faith in PR and that MB would be starting game 4. Everybody on this site told me I did not understand about faith in a QB. They also said Gibbs would never pull PR by week 4. Looks like I was correct about the former and incorrect about the latter, my prediction was 2 weeks too late.

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Grrrrrr...

[B]Rant On[/B]

I don't post alot but dammit I'm upset. I'm not so sure it's as important WHO we go with as just picking someone and sticking with it. Ramsey has had ONE game? ONE GAME?! I hardly find Brunell's 8/14 for 70yds a convincing relief performance. How is a quarterback supposed to have any ocnfidence whatsoever if everytime the slightest thing goes wrong he gets benched? I mean 6/11 for 105 and an INT isn't exactly stellar, but in that case half the QBs in the league should be benched.

This just makes me sick. Ya know I just moved from Maryland to Tennessee and was all in a panic that I can't get all the 'Skins games down here. Now I'm not so worried.

[B]Rant Off[/B]

Of course I AM worried...been a 'Skins fan since I was a fetus. I guess I'm on the bandwagon one way or another. I do it reluctantly though.

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Wait let me clarfiy:

I'm on the Gibbs Bandwagon. The Brunell Bandwagon should not even exist, and I'll personally remove the lug nuts if anyone tries to get it going.

Brunell is an overpaid, washed-up old putz with a noodle for an arm and no real apparent emotion for the game. All I can figure is he must be a smooth talker or something to get Gibbs to like him.

Maybe he brings donuts every morning. Hell, for $43 million I'd be a brownnoser too...

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mheisig, your metaphors give me a good much needed laugh. LOL.

You're funny.

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Ok, first and foremost, I am a Redskin fan, so I will root for them no matter who is starting and who is on the team. I also have faith in Joe Gibbs and his coaching staff.

I have always been a big Ramsey supporter, but he just does not seem to be able to improve his accuracy and stop turning the ball over. So I agree with Gibbs's decision. Brunell was good in preseason and yes it was against back-ups, but the last time I checked, QB accuracy and poise doesn't have anything to do with who the players on the defense are. He showed it big-time, and Ramsey, not as much...in year four, he still looks too much like a work-in-progress. I am disappointed that Patrick wasn't given more of a shot, but I agree that Brunell gives the Redskins the best chance to win now. Last year he was injured, and Gibbs should have pulled him earlier, at the very least to let him get healthy, but that is over with. Players (and teams) have bad years that they bounce back from. It happens every year. Hopefully Brunell, and the Redskins, can be one of those stories this year. I think they will.

As for the offense, it is better than last year overall. It is year two in the system and they have made adjustments to better fit the players they have. The line is vastly improved with Rabach and Jansen (even with no thumbs!). Portis has put on almost 20 lbs. to handle the load and seems determined to carry this offense. The new receivers have the speed and ability to get downfield, AND to get RAC yards after the 5-15 yard passes that Lav and Rod just couldn't get last year. Pretty much everyone agrees that Cooley will definitely improve on his very good rookie year (even the Skins-hating experts). So even if Brunell sucks just like last year, the rest of this team has the ability to overcome it....but I don't think he will.

It seems to me that Gibbs wants someone that can effectively run the offense for a year or two until he can get Campbell up to speed, and it appears the Brunell is more qualified and in a better position, career-wise, to do that. I wish Ramsey all the luck in the world, but it seems that his days as a Redskin are numbered, whether it is a trade this season, or being traded or released next offseason. By the way, remember that it was said that Snyder was very high on Ramsey and he was his pick? Who's in control now??? ;)

Hail to the Redskins!!!

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[QUOTE=SkinsRock]Ok, first and foremost, I am a Redskin fan, so I will root for them no matter who is starting and who is on the team. I also have faith in Joe Gibbs and his coaching staff.

I have always been a big Ramsey supporter, but he just does not seem to be able to improve his accuracy and stop turning the ball over. So I agree with Gibbs's decision. Brunell was good in preseason and yes it was against back-ups, but the last time I checked, QB accuracy and poise doesn't have anything to do with who the players on the defense are. He showed it big-time, and Ramsey, not as much...in year four, he still looks too much like a work-in-progress. I am disappointed that Patrick wasn't given more of a shot, but I agree that Brunell gives the Redskins the best chance to win now. Last year he was injured, and Gibbs should have pulled him earlier, at the very least to let him get healthy, but that is over with. Players (and teams) have bad years that they bounce back from. It happens every year. Hopefully Brunell, and the Redskins, can be one of those stories this year. I think they will.

As for the offense, it is better than last year overall. It is year two in the system and they have made adjustments to better fit the players they have. The line is vastly improved with Rabach and Jansen (even with no thumbs!). Portis has put on almost 20 lbs. to handle the load and seems determined to carry this offense. The new receivers have the speed and ability to get downfield, AND to get RAC yards after the 5-15 yard passes that Lav and Rod just couldn't get last year. Pretty much everyone agrees that Cooley will definitely improve on his very good rookie year (even the Skins-hating experts). So even if Brunell sucks just like last year, the rest of this team has the ability to overcome it....but I don't think he will.

It seems to me that Gibbs wants someone that can effectively run the offense for a year or two until he can get Campbell up to speed, and it appears the Brunell is more qualified and in a better position, career-wise, to do that. I wish Ramsey all the luck in the world, but it seems that his days as a Redskin are numbered, whether it is a trade this season, or being traded or released next offseason. By the way, remember that it was said that Snyder was very high on Ramsey and he was his pick? Who's in control now??? ;)

Hail to the Redskins!!![/QUOTE]

Fight for all DC!!!!!

You nailed it my friend. Good Post!

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I know a lot of people think that Gibbs is stubborn and he's trying to force Brunell to look good so that people think he is right. DON'T WE KNOW GIBBS BETTER THAN THIS?

He wants to win, first and foremost. If he feels Brunell will give us a better chance of winning, then by God, I'll stand behind him on that.[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with you. Think about all Gibbs' qb controversies in the past with Schroeder, Williams, and Rypien. Yet each decision ended up for the best. Sure, I don't understand making the switch so early, but I also know that in 1 1/2 quarters of play, Ramsey was intercepted once and fumbled twice (one of them was recovered and the other wasn't really his fault since he got clotheslined). Sure he can move the offense, but his decision making was very questionable. Although I'd be inclined to give him another chance, I don't want to risk it against Dallas next week. Brunell wasn't spectacular, but he did well overall considering that most of his reps were probably with backups in the practices. Give him time and he should develop chemistry with the starting receivers. I'd be lying if I didn't admit that the sudden switch scares me, but I'm not about to criticize Gibbs when I don't attend practices and team meetings and see stuff behind the scenes. :dallas:

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[QUOTE=SkinsRock]Ok, first and foremost, I am a Redskin fan, so I will root for them no matter who is starting and who is on the team. I also have faith in Joe Gibbs and his coaching staff.

I have always been a big Ramsey supporter, but he just does not seem to be able to improve his accuracy and stop turning the ball over. So I agree with Gibbs's decision. Brunell was good in preseason and yes it was against back-ups, but the last time I checked, QB accuracy and poise doesn't have anything to do with who the players on the defense are. He showed it big-time, and Ramsey, not as much...in year four, he still looks too much like a work-in-progress. I am disappointed that Patrick wasn't given more of a shot, but I agree that Brunell gives the Redskins the best chance to win now. Last year he was injured, and Gibbs should have pulled him earlier, at the very least to let him get healthy, but that is over with. Players (and teams) have bad years that they bounce back from. It happens every year. Hopefully Brunell, and the Redskins, can be one of those stories this year. I think they will.

As for the offense, it is better than last year overall. It is year two in the system and they have made adjustments to better fit the players they have. The line is vastly improved with Rabach and Jansen (even with no thumbs!). Portis has put on almost 20 lbs. to handle the load and seems determined to carry this offense. The new receivers have the speed and ability to get downfield, AND to get RAC yards after the 5-15 yard passes that Lav and Rod just couldn't get last year. Pretty much everyone agrees that Cooley will definitely improve on his very good rookie year (even the Skins-hating experts). So even if Brunell sucks just like last year, the rest of this team has the ability to overcome it....but I don't think he will.

It seems to me that Gibbs wants someone that can effectively run the offense for a year or two until he can get Campbell up to speed, and it appears the Brunell is more qualified and in a better position, career-wise, to do that. I wish Ramsey all the luck in the world, but it seems that his days as a Redskin are numbered, whether it is a trade this season, or being traded or released next offseason. By the way, remember that it was said that Snyder was very high on Ramsey and he was his pick? Who's in control now??? ;)

Hail to the Redskins!!![/QUOTE]

SkinsRock, I wish you wrote for the Washington Times or Post. You couldn't have said it better. :biggthump

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I read a post yesterday referring to the current situation with the QB's. The author made a statement to the effect of "Coach Gibbs knows more than most of us on the Warpath". I have read a lot of BS over the past 24 hours (and enjoyed it). I have a shocker-NOBODY ON ANY MESSAGE BOARD IS QUALIFIED TO BE THE COACH (or we would be doing it). This may come as a shock to the author and all us second guessing Gibb's. There are REAL reasons he is making these moves, that are not motivated by self-serving, or personal reasons. It is based purely on performance, or who he believes can achieve the best performance. You may be asking yourself, "what gives that old man the right"? THREE RINGS-Oh yea of little faith!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I haven't talked much on this issue. But here it is, i hate this decision so early but i will give Brunell one week and asit would be this is Dallas week, gibbs gets a get out of jail free till tuesday morning, I can't say brunell is gonna be bad because nothing in the preseason shows that he will be bad. I can't say that he will be good because nothing from last year says he will be good, i need to see on Monday, it is very possible that brunell does good and portis runs on that 3-4 and we pick up a win. I don't know why we have given up. Ramsey wasn't the best player on the team, I wanted him to be but Brunell earned this job in gibbs' eyes and i am not blindly following gibbs, I am trusting him because he sees the players, he saw ramsey more than those 20 minutes on Sunday, he knows what is going on. I am not gonna follow gibbs but i will trust him until i know he is wrong. I know hindsight is 20/20 but i have to see Brunell start just one more time till i say this is the worst decision that we made this year

This is officially dallas week, this week can tell us whether we should give up all hope or if we should be looking toward the sky. It is Dallas Week and the most important week of the year.

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[QUOTE=illdefined]Gibbs absorbed 10 games worth of mistakes, as long as they were from Mark.[/QUOTE]

Right on. Somehow the same "standards" that one poster said Ramsey failed to meet don't apply to Brunell. Somehow, the same short leash that Ramsey has been on since Gibbs came back don't apply to Brunell either.

For the life of me, I don't understand what Gibbs sees in Brunell (what has MB actually done to make us a success?) that justifies his continued confidence in him. Then again, who in their right mind could justify a $42M contract for Brunell?

Why does Brunell get to mess up through 9 games and Ramsey gets only 1 quarter?

None of this makes any sense.

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[QUOTE=Hog1]I read a post yesterday referring to the current situation with the QB's. The author made a statement to the effect of "Coach Gibbs knows more than most of us on the Warpath". I have read a lot of BS over the past 24 hours (and enjoyed it). I have a shocker-NOBODY ON ANY MESSAGE BOARD IS QUALIFIED TO BE THE COACH (or we would be doing it). This may come as a shock to the author and all us second guessing Gibb's. There are REAL reasons he is making these moves, that are not motivated by self-serving, or personal reasons. It is based purely on performance, or who he believes can achieve the best performance. You may be asking yourself, "what gives that old man the right"? THREE RINGS-Oh yea of little faith!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

And for how long are we supposed to give Coach a "bye" based on those 3 rings?

I don't for one minute think that Gibbs made this choice based on anything close to personal or self-serving reasons. I believe he is not that type of man or coach. However, I do think he is dead wrong with what he's done and this team will pay the price for his decision this season.

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[QUOTE=LadyT]And for how long are we supposed to give Coach a "bye" based on those 3 rings?.[/QUOTE]

Until he stops coaching.

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[QUOTE=LadyT]None of this makes any sense.[/QUOTE]

Possibly because you are not privvy to the information and knowledge that Coach Gibbs and staff have.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Possibly because you are not privvy to the information and knowledge that Coach Gibbs and staff have.[/QUOTE]

we all saw what happened on the field last season. and we've all seen how little preseason success applies to the regular season.