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skinsfan69 01-30-2018 11:05 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[quote=MTK;1187087]Some of you guys are hilarious. Smith can’t play? Colt McCoy could put up the same numbers? Freaking out over paying a top 10 QB $23.5M a year? Come on now.[/quote]

Colt can make accurate throws with 10 yards of the line, and he can run around. That's Smith isn't it?

MTK 01-30-2018 11:06 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1187107]Colt can make accurate throws with 10 yards of the line, and he can run around. That's Smith isn't it?[/QUOTE]


Stop

Schneed10 01-30-2018 11:06 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1187107]Colt can make accurate throws with 10 yards of the line, and he can run around. That's Smith isn't it?[/quote]

Colt has a much, much higher turnover rate.

Skinsfanatic 01-30-2018 11:07 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
Fuller? Really? That puts a damper on the mood.

Chico23231 01-30-2018 11:08 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
This trade is another in poor decisions from Bruce Allen and dan Snyder. I can’t believe we continue to do stupid shit year after year.

CRedskinsRule 01-30-2018 11:09 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
I still like it. I think Fuller is a good player but we have depth at the CB. Alex Smith is a smart qb, doesn't make redzone mistakes. This is a ultimately a good move. Plus now the team can move forward with fixed numbers at qb.

MTK 01-30-2018 11:11 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
I don’t like giving up Fuller but the Skins had to come strong with several teams interested in dealing for Smith. Who knows what other offers were possibly in play.

sdskinsfan2001 01-30-2018 11:11 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
Damn, Fuller was a young hog for us this year. That's too bad. Wish him nothing but the best.

Breeland was rated very high in the slot. Maybe he's coming back now.

Either way, I see a CB in the top 2 or 3 rounds in the draft.

As good as he was, QB is gonna cost some good shit on the trade market. We're not starting over next year now.

Hell, we can even use the extra cap space to sign Fullers replacement, if no Breeland either.

Still like the trade.

Be interesting to see how Cousins fairs next season.

RedskinMike 01-30-2018 11:16 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
Fueller says its not him.

Brody81 01-30-2018 11:17 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/7f10fbd0c2ded55268a86593f1920ca6.jpg[/IMG]

Let’s hope this is true.


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sdskinsfan2001 01-30-2018 11:18 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[quote=Brody81;1187117][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/7f10fbd0c2ded55268a86593f1920ca6.jpg[/IMG]

Let’s hope this is true.


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Adam Shefter is a regular John Denver, full of shit.

sdskinsfan2001 01-30-2018 11:20 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
Is the player to be named actually named to a small circle or is it still being negotiated? I've always wondered that. You see this in baseball a lot.

MTK 01-30-2018 11:22 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
Funny to note that Smith is a McLoughan guy. Hmmm[emoji848]

Influence still in the building?

Schneed10 01-30-2018 11:23 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
I’m trying to consider our alternatives, which were shitty. Cousins didnt want to be a Redskin, so keeping him would have required a tag. Not an acceptable solution.

Colt and a rookie? Not an acceptable solution.

Bridgewater coming off a knee? Bradford? Fragile his whole career.

I hate giving up Fuller, that’s a valuable piece. But if you asked me if I’d rather give Fuller and a 3rd for Smith, or go for one of these other bad options, I think I’d take Alex Smith.

Here’s why:

Smith INTs the last three years, 5, 8, 7. Cousins, 13, 12, 11.

Smith’s fumbles 2, 7, 4. Cousins, 13, 9, 9.

MTK 01-30-2018 11:23 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
Let’s hope “sources” jumped the gun on Fuller.

Schneed10 01-30-2018 11:25 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
Grant Paulsen tweeted that he’s been told it’s not Fuller.

Schneed10 01-30-2018 11:26 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[quote=MTK;1187121]Funny to note that Smith is a McLoughan guy. Hmmm[emoji848]

Influence still in the building?[/quote]

Fucking great observation, I didn’t think of that.

CRedskinsRule 01-30-2018 11:27 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
Inside the 10 half of Smith's passes were TDs. KC was 1 in 3. Smith had 5 ints none in the red zone. KC had 3 in the red zone alone. Gruden can win with Smith.

Schneed10 01-30-2018 11:28 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
By the way, an unappreciated piece of this news, it frees us to apply the tag to someone else. Increases the chances we can retain Zach Brown.

MTK 01-30-2018 11:28 PM

Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1187122]I’m trying to consider our alternatives, which were shitty. Cousins didnt want to be a Redskin, so keeping him would have required a tag. Not an acceptable solution.



Colt and a rookie? Not an acceptable solution.



Bridgewater coming off a knee? Bradford? Fragile his whole career.



I hate giving up Fuller, that’s a valuable piece. But if you asked me if I’d rather give Fuller and a 3rd for Smith, or go for one of these other bad options, I think I’d take Alex Smith.



Here’s why:



Smith INTs the last three years, 5, 8, 7. Cousins, 13, 12, 11.



Smith’s fumbles 2, 7, 4. Cousins, 13, 9, 9.[/QUOTE]


The only acceptable solution to me would have been going with a rookie but that’s such a big roll of the dice with not having a top 10 pick.

Maybe a trade for someone like McCarron I could have lived with too. I’m not a Bridgewater fan at all, Bradford’s injuries rule him out for me too. McCoy? Absolutely not.

Honestly I wasn’t even thinking seriously about Smith.

Schneed10 01-30-2018 11:30 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1187126]Inside the 10 half of Smith's passes were TDs. KC was 1 in 3. Smith had 5 ints none in the red zone. KC had 3 in the red zone alone. Gruden can win with Smith.[/quote]

Agree. The difference is mobility.

Kelce and Reed, equal red zone targets. Even if you excuse Cousins for games when Reed didn’t play, the red zone numbers are still better.

MTK 01-30-2018 11:31 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1187125]Fucking great observation, I didn’t think of that.[/QUOTE]


I can’t take credit saw it on Twitter. It’s interesting though.

CRedskinsRule 01-30-2018 11:33 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1187129]Agree. The difference is mobility.

Kelce and Reed, equal red zone targets. Even if you excuse Cousins for games when Reed didn’t play, the red zone numbers are still better.[/QUOTE]Not hating on KC but I think he tended to get the red zone jitters. I will be interested to see if going to a new team and presumably a long term deal helps him by reducing outside pressures

Schneed10 01-30-2018 11:35 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1187132]Not hating on KC but I think he tended to get the red zone jitters. I will be interested to see if going to a new team and presumably a long term deal helps him by reducing outside pressures[/quote]

Yes this was definitely a personality thing. He struggled in Week 1 and Week 2 games too, it’s like he needed to get his feet wet to feel fully comfortable.

Schneed10 01-30-2018 11:40 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
It looks like it is Fuller after all. He tweeted that he hasn’t been told so he’s trying to find out what’s going on.

But Schefter and Rap Sheet continue to report it.

doughtydoubter 01-30-2018 11:40 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
Damn dude. We have got to be the worst team at trading.

HailGreen28 01-30-2018 11:43 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
This trade looks like a Snyder and Allen smokescreen to cover up their failure with Cousins. While we trade a 3rd and ?someone? for very good QB Alex Smith, meanwhile Cousins walks with at best a 3rd or so comp pick for us?

Getting an older cheaper QB that his old team apparently was dumping anyways (for Patrick Mahomey), doesn't seem like a recipe for success. Smith is underrated, he's better than a "checkdown Charlie" type player, but not the long ball threat Cousins is. Guess since our only deep threat WR can't hold on to the ball, this isn't an issue? lol.
:laughing-
:saywhat:
:doh:
:crying-

jamf 01-30-2018 11:45 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
How the fuck do we give up the best slot corner in the game for an old qb?

Fuller was an impact player for us.

WillH 01-30-2018 11:47 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1187138]This trade looks like a Snyder and Allen smokescreen to cover up their failure with Cousins. While we trade a 3rd and ?someone? for very good QB Alex Smith, meanwhile Cousins walks with at best a 3rd or so comp pick for us?

Getting an older cheaper QB that his old team apparently was dumping anyways (for Patrick Mahomey), doesn't seem like a recipe for success. Smith is underrated, he's better than a "checkdown Charlie" type player, but not the long ball threat Cousins is. Guess since our only deep threat WR can't hold on to the ball, this isn't an issue? lol.
:laughing-
:saywhat:
:doh:
:crying-[/QUOTE]Smith had the most plays and tds and highest completion percentage over 30 yards this year.

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HailGreen28 01-30-2018 11:48 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
[quote=WillH;1187140]Smith had the most plays and tds and highest completion percentage over 30 yards this year.

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That's impressive, I could sworn he wasn't that good watching him, happy to be wrong here.

Ruhskins 01-30-2018 11:51 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
Perhaps we finally have a QB that wants to play here.

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Meks 01-30-2018 11:51 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
Damn, Fuller? Really? Wtf man.

itvnetop 01-30-2018 11:52 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
I don’t like trading away the top slot corner in football.


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calia 01-30-2018 11:53 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
Corners like Fuller are uncommon. If it is Fuller, this sucks. I can think of a number of guys I’d rather part with - stating with Cravens. But Fuller would be a terrible deal for us.


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jamf 01-30-2018 11:53 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
I’m losing my shit. It better not be fuller.

doughtydoubter 01-30-2018 11:54 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
I think.. I may be done.. I think the dysfunction has officially gotten to the point I physically just can't do it anymore. I've been there for 35 years.. man I may just be done with football. Maybe an opportunity to get a day of my life back. I just can't give my life to Allen's bullshit anymore

HailGreen28 01-30-2018 11:54 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1187142]Perhaps we finally have a QB that wants to play here.

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Given Smith is going from the 10-6 Chiefs to here, and we still suck both sides of the ball (except for QB last season and hopefully now), I'd expect a short honeymoon on both sides. Hope Smith's contract has a lot of guaranteed money for his sake.

jamf 01-30-2018 11:57 PM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
3rd and Cravens: ok trade
3rd and Fuller: we got robbed

I’m losing my shit.

itvnetop 01-30-2018 11:57 PM

Re: Redskins Trade for Alex Smith
 
I wouldn’t have traded Fuller for Smith straight up. Hope I’m proven wrong this upcoming season.


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Chico23231 01-31-2018 12:03 AM

Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
 
This team writes the book on how not to handle the qb position. I thought the coup de grace was a dumbshit contract but it wasn’t...it was fuller. Complete and utter incompetence from Bruce and Danny again.

Piss poor...I’m so sick of these dumb fucks.


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