Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

Mike Pence...................



[url]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/new-report-details-high-cost-vp-pences-nfl-walkout-172540169.html[/url]


New report details high cost of VP Pence's NFL walkout


Mike Pence’s walkout from an NFL game last year was a costly one. (AP)
A year ago almost to the day, Vice President Mike Pence arrived at an Indianapolis Colts game against the San Francisco 49ers, ostensibly to watch the Colts honor former franchise QB Peyton Manning. But when several members of the 49ers knelt during the national anthem, Pence, his wife, and his security team walked out.

The move drew praise from the president. But many observers called it a stunt, a deliberate performance meant to whip up the base, and newly released documents indicate that Pence’s walkout was anything but a spontaneous demonstration of patriotic outrage.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

All the women that are throwing fits over Kavanaugh who supported Bill Clinton when he was accused by 3 women of sexual assault. The left also treated those ladies like trash. Remember comments like "Dragging a $100 though a trailer park", "Bimbo Eruption".

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Back2RFK;1201962]All the women that are throwing fits over Kavanaugh who supported Bill Clinton when he was accused by 3 women of sexual assault. The left also treated those ladies like trash. Remember comments like "Dragging a $100 though a trailer park", "Bimbo Eruption".[/quote]

No ,sorry don't recall any of that.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Giantone;1201971]No ,sorry don't recall any of that.[/quote]

You really don't recall Paula Jones, Leslie Millwee, Kathleen Willey, & Juanita Broaddrick accusing Bill Clinton of sexual assault and the attacks on them.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Back2RFK;1201974]You really don't recall Paula Jones, Leslie Millwee, Kathleen Willey, & Juanita Broaddrick accusing Bill Clinton of sexual assault and the attacks on them.[/quote]

............"the attacks on them" ,no.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

Lol....selective memory

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Chico23231;1201989]Lol....selective memory[/quote]

I see you still haven't bought a mirror.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

Republican Party.


Make America Great Again by not letting real Americans vote .


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/supreme-court-just-gave-first-135608749.html[/url]




Politics
The Supreme Court Just Gave Its Latest Gift to Senate Republicans

The Republican Party's relentless ploys to pull the Supreme Court as far right as possible have been paying off for a while now, from partisan gerrymandering to attacking public sector unions. And in one of its first acts for its new session, the Court may have just ensured that Republicans hold the Senate in the midterms.

On Tuesday, the Court declined to hear a challenge to North Dakota's voter I.D. laws by a vote of 6-2 (with Brett Kavanaugh not participating), upholding a lower court decision that will likely prevent thousands of Native Americans from voting in November. North Dakota has a large population of Native Americans and Senator Heidi Heitkamp is considered the most vulnerable Democratic senator up for reelection this year. Per Mother Jones

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

Doesnt 6-2 with no Kavanaugh imply a pretty substantial agreement among the justices since 2 pure non conservative justices sided with the majority.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

The Republicans are just blatantly trying to steal elections now.......................


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-georgia-apos-secretary-state-231158238.html[/url]

Politics
Report: Georgia's Secretary of State Is Blocking 53,000 Voter Registrations as He Runs for Governor
Time BEN NADLER / AP,Time 20 hours ago
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Kemp's office blamed a voter registration group founded by his gubernatorial opponent
ATLANTA (AP) — Marsha Appling-Nunez was showing the college students she teaches how to check online if they’re registered to vote when she made a troubling discovery. Despite being an active Georgia voter who had cast ballots in recent elections, she was no longer registered.

“I was kind of shocked,” said Appling-Nunez, who moved from one Atlanta suburb to another in May and believed she had successfully changed her address on the voter rolls.

“I’ve always voted. I try to not miss any elections, including local ones,” Appling-Nunez said.

She tried re-registering, but with about one month left before a November election that will decide a governor’s race and some competitive U.S. House races, Appling-Nunez’s application is one of over 53,000 sitting on hold with Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp’s office. And unlike Appling-Nunez, many people on that list — which is predominantly black, according to an analysis by The Associated Press — may not even know their voter registration has been held up.

Tuesday is Georgia’s deadline to register and be eligible to vote in the November General Election.

Kemp, who’s also the Republican candidate for governor, is in charge of elections and voter registration in Georgia.

His Democratic opponent, former state Rep. Stacey Abrams, and voting rights advocacy groups charge that Kemp is systematically using his office to suppress votes and tilt the election, and that his policies disproportionately affect black and minority voters.

Kemp denies it vehemently.

But through a process that Kemp calls voter roll maintenance and his opponents call voter roll purges, Kemp’s office has cancelled over 1.4 million voter registrations since 2012. Nearly 670,000 registrations were cancelled in 2017 alone.

In a recent television appearance on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show With Trevor Noah” Abrams called Kemp “a remarkable architect of voter suppression.” That’s become a rallying cry for Democrats in the governor’s race, which recent public polling shows in a statistical dead heat.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

Trump on healthcare..........


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/usa-today-publishes-fact-check-123219120.html[/url]



Politics
USA Today Publishes Fact Check Of 'Misleading' Trump Op-Ed
HuffPost Willa Frej,HuffPost Fri, Oct 12 8:32 AM EDT


A fact check of President Donald Trump’s USA Today op-ed determined that many of the assertions he made about “Medicare for All” were misleading.

Trump’s piece, published Wednesday, attacked Democrats for proposing a national “single-payer health-care system,” which, according to Trump, amounts to a socialist plot to destroy Medicare.

Initially, USA Today inserted hyperlinks directing readers to articles whose facts contradicted Trump’s claims. Taking it a step further, the editorial section Thursday published a debunking of the facts by FactCheck.org, a partner of the news outlet.

There were five main problematic points, according to the evaluation. First, the claim that the plan would “cost an astonishing $32.6 trillion during its first 10 years” doesn’t include how it would offset health-care costs for individuals, employers and state governments.

“Yes, there would be an increase in federal government spending, and an increase in taxes to pay for that,” John Holahan, the author of the Urban Institute analysis that Trump got those figures from, told USA Today. But, he said, private spending on health care would be “nearly eliminated.”

Second, the plan would not “take away benefits” from senior citizens; it specifically calls for adding more benefits, including dental, vision and hearing aids. Deductibles would also get eliminated.

Third, it’s reductionist to say that all Democrats are uniting around the act, when other bills are also in the running. Fourth, Trump hasn’t kept his promise “protect coverage for patients with pre-existing conditions” given how hard he has worked to get the Affordable Care Act ― which offers those protections ― repealed. Lastly, not all health insurance premiums are coming down, contrary to his claims.

“When we looked at premiums for the individual market recently, health care experts told us lower growth was expected for 2019 for several reasons: less political uncertainty this year compared with 2017, slower growth in medical expenses, an overpricing of plans last year, and insurers’ growing familiarity with the market,” according to the fact check

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

lol a socialist plot to destroy a socialist program... brilliant

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Giantone;1201988]............"the attacks on them" ,no.[/quote]

Just a few. Hillary talking about the ladies. "Bimbo Eruption" James Carville "“If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find,”

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Giantone;1202760]Trump on healthcare..........


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/usa-today-publishes-fact-check-123219120.html[/url]



Politics
USA Today Publishes Fact Check Of 'Misleading' Trump Op-Ed
HuffPost Willa Frej,HuffPost Fri, Oct 12 8:32 AM EDT


A fact check of President Donald Trump’s USA Today op-ed determined that many of the assertions he made about “Medicare for All” were misleading.

Trump’s piece, published Wednesday, attacked Democrats for proposing a national “single-payer health-care system,” which, according to Trump, amounts to a socialist plot to destroy Medicare.

Initially, USA Today inserted hyperlinks directing readers to articles whose facts contradicted Trump’s claims. Taking it a step further, the editorial section Thursday published a debunking of the facts by FactCheck.org, a partner of the news outlet.

There were five main problematic points, according to the evaluation. First, the claim that the plan would “cost an astonishing $32.6 trillion during its first 10 years” doesn’t include how it would offset health-care costs for individuals, employers and state governments.

“Yes, there would be an increase in federal government spending, and an increase in taxes to pay for that,” John Holahan, the author of the Urban Institute analysis that Trump got those figures from, told USA Today. But, he said, private spending on health care would be “nearly eliminated.”

Second, the plan would not “take away benefits” from senior citizens; it specifically calls for adding more benefits, including dental, vision and hearing aids. Deductibles would also get eliminated.

Third, it’s reductionist to say that all Democrats are uniting around the act, when other bills are also in the running. Fourth, Trump hasn’t kept his promise “protect coverage for patients with pre-existing conditions” given how hard he has worked to get the Affordable Care Act ― which offers those protections ― repealed. Lastly, not all health insurance premiums are coming down, contrary to his claims.

“When we looked at premiums for the individual market recently, health care experts told us lower growth was expected for 2019 for several reasons: less political uncertainty this year compared with 2017, slower growth in medical expenses, an overpricing of plans last year, and insurers’ growing familiarity with the market,” according to the fact check[/quote]

So we should believe the left for those numbers? The same group that said Obama care would reduce premiums $2500.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

Obamacare is and always has been a failure. My insurance went through the roof, I got lied too. I had HR tell me this was a direct result of Obamacare legislation.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Chico23231;1203986]Obamacare is and always has been a failure. My insurance went through the roof, I got lied too. I had HR tell me this was a direct result of Obamacare legislation.[/quote]

You got some pay stub evidence of that? My single-payer insurance steadily rose every year since 2008 until the time Obamacare went into effect. It still rose afterwards too but you're lying to yourself if you think an unchecked medical insurance industry isn't going to keep raising costs just because they can.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=mooby;1204012]You got some pay stub evidence of that? My single-payer insurance steadily rose every year since 2008 until the time Obamacare went into effect. It still rose afterwards too but you're lying to yourself if you think an unchecked medical insurance industry isn't going to keep raising costs just because they can.[/quote]

[YT]_o65vMUk5so[/YT]

And I quote “if you have existing healthcare from your employer”

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Chico23231;1203986]Obamacare is and always has been a failure. My insurance went through the roof, I got lied too. I had HR tell me this was a direct result of Obamacare legislation.[/quote]

The sky is falling!!!!! The ACA was an is a good law ,it needs some fixing but my healthcare didn't change a bit ....maybe you need to learn to shop a little better or your company does.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=mooby;1204012]You got some pay stub evidence of that? My single-payer insurance steadily rose every year since 2008 until the time Obamacare went into effect. It still rose afterwards too but you're lying to yourself if you think an unchecked medical insurance industry isn't going to keep raising costs just because they can.[/quote]

I have pay stubs that show my premium went from $750 per month to $1500 when Obama Care kick in. The following year my premium went to $1800 and that's with a $6,000 deductible per person. I refused to pay that and went to a plan that does not conform to Obama care. This is the same story that all small business owners had to deal with. Larger corps were not affected as bad because of how their health insurance is rated but all policies jumped.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

How did you have health insurance that did not conform to a federal law? That seems illegal.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

According to my paystub my insurance over the last two years went from $423 a month to $455 a month .Deductible stayed the same $2,000 a year per person.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1204358]How did you have health insurance that did not conform to a federal law? That seems illegal.[/quote]

Pretty sure it is.


I am wrong.!

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1204358]How did you have health insurance that did not conform to a federal law? That seems illegal.[/quote]

There are exemptions for some co-op style plans that hold religious exemptions:

Medi-share is one example:[url]https://mychristiancare.org/medi-share/what-is-medishare/[/url]

[quote]The Affordable Care Act includes a special provision for members of Healthcare Sharing Ministries, so Medi-Share members are exempt from the mandate to purchase insurance or face financial penalties. You can review the details of the Affordable Care Act in Section 1501, page 148.[/quote]

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

I have never proclaimed the ACA as perfect or the answer to everything but it was a first step .....you keep the good and fix the bad . I know some of the poster's here have newborns or young children,let me ask this. Are they healthy, if they are thank God . I have a grandson born with a heart condition he's a great kid and does almost what every other kid does ...and he loves sports ,at the age of nine he was drawing up football plays. Thing is he can't play them and is due to have heart surgery in three years(he is eleven) ,the prognosis is good and things are always getting better. My point is that when he is off of his parents Insurance ......no Insurance company will cover him becuase of his pre existing condition . Say what ever you want but that is not right.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1204361]There are exemptions for some co-op style plans that hold religious exemptions:

Medi-share is one example:[url]https://mychristiancare.org/medi-share/what-is-medishare/[/url][/quote]

Pretty sure as a 'non for profit " they pay little in taxes? I admit it is an interesting concept but I see no reason for it to be exempt from the ACA rules,yes I know it is ,I just would like to know why?

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Giantone;1204363]Pretty sure as a 'non for profit " they pay little in taxes? I admit it is an interesting concept but I see no reason for it to be exempt from the ACA rules,yes I know it is ,I just would like to know why?[/quote]

The link in the quote opens the whole aca, but if you scroll down to page 148 you find this:

[quote]‘‘(2) RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS.—
...(B) HEALTH CARE SHARING MINISTRY.— ‘‘(i) IN GENERAL.—Such term shall not include any
individual for any month if such individual is a member
of a health care sharing ministry for the month.
‘‘(ii) HEALTH CARE SHARING MINISTRY.—The term
‘health care sharing ministry’ means an organization—
‘‘(I) which is described in section 501(c)(3) and
is exempt from taxation under section 501(a),
‘‘(II) members of which share a common set of
ethical or religious beliefs and share medical expenses
among members in accordance with those
beliefs and without regard to the State in which
a member resides or is employed,
‘‘(III) members of which retain membership
even after they develop a medical condition,
‘‘(IV) which (or a predecessor of which) has
been in existence at all times since December 31,
1999, and medical expenses of its members have
been shared continuously and without interruption
since at least December 31, 1999, and
‘‘(V) which conducts an annual audit which is
performed by an independent certified public accounting
firm in accordance with generally accepted
accounting principles and which is made available
to the public upon request.[/quote]

There are other exemptions there, I am assuming that Back2RFK isn't incarcerated or an illegal alien, so I think this exemption is the most likely one.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1204366]The link in the quote opens the whole aca, but if you scroll down to page 148 you find this:



There are other exemptions there, I am assuming that Back2RFK isn't incarcerated or an illegal alien, so I think this exemption is the most likely one.[/quote]

A question , why haven't "other religious organizations" done the same or gone on to these plains?

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[QUOTE=Giantone;1204386]A question , why haven't "other religious organizations" done the same or gone on to these plains?[/QUOTE]I dont know whether they have or not. The only reason i know about medishare is one of the salesmen at my work uses it.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1204361]There are exemptions for some co-op style plans that hold religious exemptions:

Medi-share is one example:[url]https://mychristiancare.org/medi-share/what-is-medishare/[/url][/quote]

Ahh I misunderstood. I always consider exemptions to be conforming to the law.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1204433]Ahh I misunderstood. I always consider exemptions to be conforming to the law.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Weird terminology i guess. It conforms to the whole law but not the specific "obama care" requirements.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Chico23231;1203986]Obamacare is and always has been a failure. My insurance went through the roof, I got lied too. I had HR tell me this was a direct result of Obamacare legislation.[/quote]

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/watch-trump-republicans-own-themselves-171058706.html[/url]


Politics
Watch Trump Republicans own themselves, admit Obamacare works
Yahoo View 16 hours ago


Ari Melber breaks down how Republicans are reversing their positions on Obamacare ahead of the midterm elections, as public approval for Obamacare reaches record levels.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[YT]PZyrqQRDUwM[/YT]
crowd laughs, interviewer says well done.

Media's unbiased response:
[IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/1m5kdt.jpg[/IMG]

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

......all republicans do look alike .trump.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

Chico, feel free to ignore this one, or read it and write a one-line comeback about why Trump is the greatest because half the GOP talked shit about him and then decided to kneel down and kiss the ring like the bitches they are.

This is more for mine and G1's enjoyment:

G1 I hope you enjoy this as much as I do. A comprehensive list of GOPers shit talking Trump only to try and leverage his position for their own personal interests later on.

[url]https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/butf0t/conservatives_stunned_by_mueller_suggesting_trump/ephb0oj/?user_id=18719020&context=1[/url]

Let's start with Kellyanne Conway shit-talking Trump as a candidate back in 2015/16:

[YT]aZB1w6tvlyI[/YT]

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=mooby;1224162]Chico, feel free to ignore this one, or read it and write a one-line comeback about why Trump is the greatest because half the GOP talked shit about him and then decided to kneel down and kiss the ring like the bitches they are.

This is more for mine and G1's enjoyment:

G1 I hope you enjoy this as much as I do. A comprehensive list of GOPers shit talking Trump only to try and leverage his position for their own personal interests later on.

[url]https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/butf0t/conservatives_stunned_by_mueller_suggesting_trump/ephb0oj/?user_id=18719020&context=1[/url]

Let's start with Kellyanne Conway shit-talking Trump as a candidate back in 2015/16:

[YT]aZB1w6tvlyI[/YT][/quote]

Lol, Its all good, enjoy your circle jerk. Reddit, weaponizing the bubble culture since day 1.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Chico23231;1224166]Lol, Its all good, enjoy your circle jerk. Reddit, weaponizing the bubble culture since day 1.[/quote]

Chico , you're a really bad loser.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=Chico23231;1224166]Lol, Its all good, enjoy your circle jerk. Reddit, weaponizing the bubble culture since day 1.[/quote]

My man with the one-liner comebacker about the platform and not a peep about the content!

Stay predictable Chico.

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=mooby;1224189]My man with the one-liner comebacker about the platform and not a peep about the content!

Stay predictable Chico.[/quote]

Ha! Well it’s true, Reddit was a bubble maker original...why is this country divided, Reddit can proudly share in that accomplishment.

Your content of post...bro...politics gonna politic. You want me to do the other side? To say this is like some phenomenon...it’s a dirty business. Don’t act
Like this doesn’t happen with the dems....you know about the birther email put out by the Clinton campaign running against Obama? About talking points? Just an example without even trying...

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

Amazing how video games continue to be the scapegoat

[URL="https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/09/walmart-reportedly-removing-violent-game-ads-will-still-sell-guns"]Walmart Reportedly Removing Violent Game Ads, Will Still Sell Guns[/URL]

Re: The hypocrisy of the ________
 

[quote=MTK;1226577]Amazing how video games continue to be the scapegoat

[URL="https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/09/walmart-reportedly-removing-violent-game-ads-will-still-sell-guns"]Walmart Reportedly Removing Violent Game Ads, Will Still Sell Guns[/URL][/quote]

Its absolutely amazing the excuses and the blaming of others, people are making for those 2 piece of shits. We can never just say they were evil losers and what happened was solely their faults.