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SFREDSKIN 01-07-2016 10:43 AM

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If the bucs are smart they should hire Coughlin who lives in Florida.

KI Skins Fan 01-07-2016 10:52 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1136274]If the bucs are smart they should hire Coughlin who lives in Florida.[/quote]

Sure, if they want an over-the-hiil, worn out old guy. It would be easier and much cheaper to just grab some old guy off the street in Tampa. There are plenty of other old guys who were forced to retire in Florida.

SFREDSKIN 01-07-2016 10:55 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136277]Sure, if they want an over-the-hiil, worn out old guy. It would be easier and much cheaper to just grab some old guy off the street in Tampa. There are plenty of other old guys who were forced to retire in Florida.[/quote]

Remember Marv Levy? He didn't win 2 SB like Coughlin and had success in his 70's.

KI Skins Fan 01-07-2016 11:04 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1136278]Remember Marv Levy? He didn't win 2 SB like Coughlin and had success in his 70's.[/quote]

Coughlin ain't Levy and Coughlin looks done to me. I can practically smell it on him!

As a retired old guy, I've learned that most of us are done before we realize we're done and it comes at a different age for each of us. I think Coughlin is done but he doesn't realize it yet. He'll be pissed at Mara until, one day, he'll realize that Mara was right.

HailGreen28 01-07-2016 02:30 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136252]We're doing fine on defense. We just need a couple of star players on that side of the ball.[/quote]I thought we had a couple in Kerrigan and Hall. Counting hype, "Pot Roast" gets mentioned a lot, even though he's not an every-down player.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&season=2015&seasonType=REG&role=OPP&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&conference=ALL&d-447263-p=1&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url]

This regular season defensively we were 17th best in pts/game. 28th best in yds/game. Better than it looks on the field, but not terrible. Still seemed to me like we got shredded anytime we played a good offense.

Lovie Smith's track record really hasn't been as good the past several years as I thought it was, but we really could use a better defense.

I think we need a better defensive coordinator, like a Wade Phillips or Rex Ryan. I understand we will have to go with someone who isn't established, who can develop into a Wade Philips. I just don't think Joe Barry is our guy.

CRedskinsRule 01-07-2016 02:36 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1136274]If the bucs are smart they should hire Coughlin who lives in Florida.[/quote]
the espn980 crew was speculating that they wanted to give the job to their OC after how well he worked with Winston, and they were afraid that the OC would get HC offers for other teams.

Lovie might be a perfect fit in NY or Philly?

CRedskinsRule 01-07-2016 02:39 PM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1136308]I thought we had a couple in Kerrigan and Hall. Counting hype, "Pot Roast" gets mentioned a lot, even though he's not an every-down player.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&season=2015&seasonType=REG&role=OPP&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&conference=ALL&d-447263-p=1&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url]

This regular season defensively we were 17th best in pts/game. 28th best in yds/game. Better than it looks on the field, but not terrible. Still seemed to me like we got shredded anytime we played a good offense.

Lovie Smith's track record really hasn't been as good the past several years as I thought it was, but we really could use a better defense.

I think we need a better defensive coordinator, like a Wade Phillips or Rex Ryan. I understand we will have to go with someone who isn't established, who can develop into a Wade Philips. I just don't think Joe Barry is our guy.[/quote]
At this point I would just move Perry Fewell to DC if they decided they needed a change. But I very much doubt any of the staff will change unless they are hired away.

J. Falcon 01-07-2016 02:59 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1136310]the espn980 crew was speculating that they wanted to give the job to their OC after how well he worked with Winston, and they were afraid that the OC would get HC offers for other teams.

Lovie might be a perfect fit in NY or Philly?[/quote]

He would be a great fit in NY or Philly for us, as he would lead them into years if mediocrity.

kingj 01-08-2016 01:22 AM

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Report: Jon Gruden let Eagles know he's 'interested' in replacing Kelly
cbsprt.co/1S7tOHF

Not cool, chucky!

That Guy 01-08-2016 05:23 AM

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jon spent a lot of time falling in love with bad qbs. philly taking him wouldn't necessarily be a bad hire for skins fans. he's been on the bench a while, though he's been active, so i doubt he'd be rusty.

CRedskinsRule 01-08-2016 06:00 AM

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[QUOTE=kingj;1136356]Report: Jon Gruden let Eagles know he's 'interested' in replacing Kelly
cbsprt.co/1S7tOHF

Not cool, chucky![/QUOTE]
To coach against his own brother? Interesting dynamic.

JoeRedskin 01-08-2016 06:15 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1136365]To coach against his own brother? Interesting dynamic.[/quote]

It would probably be bad news for us b/c everyone knows that older brothers are just naturally better at everything.

MTK 01-08-2016 07:51 AM

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He's not interested

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/08/jon-gruden-denies-report-hes-interested-in-eagles-job/[/url]

mredskins 01-08-2016 09:20 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1136366]It would probably be bad news for us b/c everyone knows that older brothers are just naturally better at everything.[/quote]
Dig.

CRedskinsRule 01-08-2016 11:27 AM

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[quote=MTK;1136367]He's not interested

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/08/jon-gruden-denies-report-hes-interested-in-eagles-job/]Jon Gruden denies report he’s interested in Eagles job | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

Clearly didn't want to get shown up by his younger brother 2 times a year. Understandable.

Chico23231 01-09-2016 12:27 PM

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Coughlin interviewing for the Eagles hc. And looks like Eagles first choice is gonna go with the Dolphins

Ruhskins 01-09-2016 12:55 PM

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Adam Gase to become the Dolphins new HC, per ESPN.

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MTK 01-09-2016 03:22 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1136465]Adam Gase to become the Dolphins new HC, per ESPN.

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Dude knows offense, but can he run a team? We'll see. Miami's owner reminds me of a young Snyder.

skinsfan69 01-09-2016 03:26 PM

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Gase seems like the second coming of Norv Turner. Great guy, but maybe not someone I'd have running my entire team.

Bangee7 01-10-2016 10:45 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1136464]Coughlin interviewing for the Eagles hc. And looks like Eagles first choice is gonna go with the Dolphins[/quote]

Do the Eagles need permission from the Giants for this to happen?

If so, Coughlin's snub of Mara at his last presser might come back to bite him.

That Guy 01-10-2016 11:27 AM

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[quote=Bangee7;1136585]Do the Eagles need permission from the Giants for this to happen?

If so, Coughlin's snub of Mara at his last presser might come back to bite him.[/quote]

no, they do not.

Ruhskins 01-10-2016 01:22 PM

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[quote=Bangee7;1136585]Do the Eagles need permission from the Giants for this to happen?

If so, Coughlin's snub of Mara at his last presser might come back to bite him.[/quote]

Yes they do, because Coughlin had a year left in his contract and he quit (was not fired). However, multiple reports say that the Giants will not get in Coughlin's way and allow him to interview.

I think it is interesting that Reese was not fired. A lot of the GMen's issues had to with personnel IMO.

That Guy 01-10-2016 02:44 PM

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if you ask a guy to retire. you can't keep him from interviewing afterwards.

Ruhskins 01-10-2016 05:22 PM

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1136603]if you ask a guy to retire. you can't keep him from interviewing afterwards.[/QUOTE]
And Coughlin didn't retire.

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That Guy 01-10-2016 05:58 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1136646]And Coughlin didn't retire.

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retire from coaching the giants, at the team's request. let's be pedantic.

CrazyCanuck 01-10-2016 10:18 PM

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Fire Joe Barry.

Giantone 01-11-2016 05:39 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1136646]And Coughlin didn't retire.

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I agree, the Eagles did ask and the Giants gave permission to interview.

Giantone 01-11-2016 08:35 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1136595]Yes they do, because Coughlin had a year left in his contract and he quit (was not fired). However, multiple reports say that the Giants will not get in Coughlin's way and allow him to interview.

I think it is interesting that Reese was not fired. A lot of the GMen's issues had to with personnel IMO.[/quote]


And their trainers and weight coachs,


Steve Smith: Knee Injury ended his career
Kenny Phillips: Knee injury ended his career
Sintim:(may not have done anything anyway) Knee injury ended his career
Chad Jones: Car accident ended his career
David Wilson: Neck injury ended his career
Hakeem Nicks: foot injury basically ended his career
Victor Cruz can be added to this list.

MTK 01-11-2016 09:28 PM

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Trainers can only do so much. How are they supposed to prevent a car accident?

DYoungJelly 01-11-2016 09:35 PM

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[quote=MTK;1137297]Trainers can only do so much. How are they supposed to prevent a car accident?[/quote]

Squats and fish oil.

Giantone 01-12-2016 03:09 AM

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[quote=MTK;1137297]Trainers can only do so much. How are they supposed to prevent a car accident?[/quote]

Obviously they can't ,yet the rest of the list is knees a foot and a neck pretty sure I can find a few other knees that I can add on ,I all so realize "every team" has injuries but to me any way they need to go back to a grass field but I do wonder why the Jets don't have the same problems.

SFREDSKIN 01-13-2016 03:15 PM

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Hue Jackson to coach Browns

skinsfaninok 01-13-2016 03:25 PM

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Jackson will just do what all the others have done, Cleveland is just so poorly ran it's a joke.

Chico23231 01-13-2016 03:31 PM

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49ers still cant find a coach or does everyone keep turning them down? Says a lot about the management of that organization.

skinsfan69 01-13-2016 03:35 PM

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SF should just hire Kelly. See if he could get Kap back to playing like he did a few years ago.

CRedskinsRule 01-13-2016 04:02 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1137479]Hue Jackson to coach Browns[/quote]

That's a bit of a surprise. Seems like he could have had any job he chose, why would anyone choose the Browns?? (And yes, I know the same could have been said about the Skins from 2002 to 2015)

TheMalcolmConnection 01-13-2016 04:08 PM

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I think SOMEONE wants to say they fixed them. Good luck with that. :D

jamf 01-13-2016 04:14 PM

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The Browns are so bad that I don't think there is a downside for Hue taking the job.
If he does well, he gets all the credit for turning them around.
if it's another shit show, then he can do a Shanahan and blame everyone on the way out and not look back.

SFREDSKIN 01-13-2016 04:34 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1137482]49ers still cant find a coach or does everyone keep turning them down? Says a lot about the management of that organization.[/quote]

They might be waiting for Josh McDaniel

JoeRedskin 01-13-2016 09:14 PM

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[quote=jamf;1137491]The Browns are so bad that I don't think there is a downside for Hue taking the job.
If he does well, he gets all the credit for turning them around.
if it's another shit show, then he can do a Shanahan and blame everyone on the way out and not look back.[/quote]

Except that's kind of the rep he had when he was fired from Oakland in 2012. His rep was pretty much trash after that but he worked really hard to be in a position to be considered for a HC job and, IMHO, could have had his choice of decent jobs. Glad he's not in the NFC East.

I think it's a dumb move on his part but really wish him success.


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