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Saying that no one in the NFL would want him is rather stupid.

I'll tell you this right now, I would hate to have to face RG III twice a year playing for the Eagles. I might not like Chip Kelly but rg III is custom made for his offense and I would be shocked if he didn't end up there if he is flat out released next year. (I don't think it Wil happen as I still have faith/hope that he is going to be our guy for a long time).

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[quote=Defensewins;1115444]Even if Robert Griffin woke up tomorrow with Joe Montana's brain and picked up all of the mental parts of the game, can he stay reasonably healthy? Has he made it healthy through a single season in the NFL yet?
Even the $18.4 million option for next year is ton of cap space tied up on a player that honestly has trouble staying on the field.
I also want Robert G. to succeed but I have a problem with that one year option.[/quote]

This is my issue, lets say he plays well. He is still probably gonna miss 4-6 games a year. I don't think you can ever succeed with that, because you'll need to pay a good backup. The roster will suffer.

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[quote=30gut;1115450]
So when you say that Griffin can't drop back, make reads, feel pressure its a lot of hyperbole. When you say that Griffin can't do those things you make his rookie year into an impossible fluke and you liken his skillset to any dime a dozen read-option QBs that come out every year. Do you really think Griffin is no different then Terrell Pryor or Darron Thomas or Quincy Carter or Tyrod Taylor or Tim Tebow or Eric Crouch. If Griffin is as limited in skillset as you say and was able to win rookie of the year (in a statistically historic fashion btw) then why don't other teams do the same thing with type of QB that you describe? Those QBs are everywhere in college football.[/quote]


I'm not the person you were replying to, but RGIII is much better than those guys cause he's actually a pretty accurate passer, and he's shown flashes of good things, but he's also shown consistent problems. once he starts to scramble (not boot or roll out, but scramble), the play is already over, he pulls his eyes off the field and the ball is basically never going to go farther than 8 yards at that point. that's something wilson or rodger etc (ie, good QBs) don't do. his instincts are just bad there (pretty consistently too). he also has shown very little skill in predicting/sensing the rush, which compounds the problem by causing him to take off too early. I mean, the guy pulls down the ball and runs a bunch in 7 on 7 drills... no one does that.

that's really the issue that's holding him back the most. (he can be inconsistent reading D's etc, but that's not as hard to fix as bad instincts, which are REALLY hard to change). If he gets amazing protection, that hides it, and maybe allows him time to try and get it fixed, but the odds are generally against it.

I'm all for giving him another shot, I'd much rather be wrong and have him killing teams left and right, it's just hard to see that happening after seeing basically no progress the last two years.

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Rich Tandler wrote this about RGIII's first day of Training Camp: "On Robert Griffin’s first pass he dropped back, hesitated a half beat, and threw sidearm and off target."

If Tandler was trying to make me nervous, it worked.

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[quote=30gut;1115450]Then I wasn't clear in my post. I meant I think he can play well in any of those offenses right now. Each of those offenses is already more catered to what he does well then Jay's offense last year. [/quote]

I would respectfully disagree. RGIII’s success came from an offense specifically designed to cut down his choices and allowed him to rely on his athleticism. To be clear, it’s not that I think RGIII is a Tebow, Carter or any of the other QB’s you mention. He clearly has some skills and when forced into a traditional role has performed as an average starter. As others noted, he has some downfield accuracy and arm strength that simply didn’t exist for Crouch or Pryor. Add that to his (formerly) freakish speed and he is not the dime-a-dozen college QB you think I am describing.

I agree with That Guy’s take that RGIII simply lacks pocket awareness on an instinctual level. Can I prove it with stats? No. Can I infer from watching? Yes. Other things I can infer: he holds the ball too long; he doesn’t feel the rush well; he doesn’t step up to avoid the rush; and, as TG said, once he [i]does[/i] feel the pressure, the eyes are no longer looking downfield.

2012 was not entirely a fluke, but, as we have seen, it was also not the norm. The offense that worked for him has not worked as a base offense for anyone else since then. While still used, the pistol and read-option as done by RGIII/Shanahan is more than a gimmick but less than a solid base from which to run an offense. While RGIII might be an average QB in some of the offenses you mention, and based on his performance over the past two years, I would suggest he is – at best – an average to below average QB even in “offenses that have spread and zone-read elements.”

To be clear, I like RGIII and am very hopeful that he succeeds here. I believe that, right now, he is a very limited QB with exceptional athleticism, arm strength and, potentially, downfield accuracy. Some of his limitations may be overcome if he can accept coaching. Not sure if others can.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1115489]Rich Tandler wrote this about RGIII's first day of Training Camp: "On Robert Griffin’s first pass he dropped back, hesitated a half beat, and threw sidearm and off target."

If Tandler was trying to make me nervous, it worked.[/quote]

If you ask which am I more excited about, RG3 as our QB this year or all the excellent pro style QBs coming out of college into the draft this year....its clearly the latter.

FYI, im gonna be extremely tough on RG3 this year, he has zero excuses...health, system, oline, etc. I will also have a low tolerance for RG3 apologists.

I have a funny feeling this ends bad.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1115411]I hope Griffin plays well and claims the QB spot for years to come. [B][I][U]He has the talent[/U][/I][/B], that neither Kirk nor Colt has, to dominate in this league. But he's got a lot to work on both on and off the field. He needs to show he can and prove many coaches, execs and players who have lost faith in him wrong. No more excuses for him[/quote]

I'd say he HAD the talent before he blew out his knee,I've havent seen much evidence since then to suggest he still has it:(

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1115502]I would respectfully disagree. RGIII’s success came from an offense specifically designed to cut down his choices and allowed him to rely on his athleticism. To be clear, it’s not that I think RGIII is a Tebow, Carter or any of the other QB’s you mention. He clearly has some skills and when forced into a traditional role has performed as an average starter. As others noted, he has some downfield accuracy and arm strength that simply didn’t exist for Crouch or Pryor. Add that to his (formerly) freakish speed and he is not the dime-a-dozen college QB you think I am describing.

[B][I]I agree with That Guy’s take that RGIII simply lacks pocket awareness on an instinctual level. Can I prove it with stats? No. Can I infer from watching? Yes. Other things I can infer: he holds the ball too long; he doesn’t feel the rush well; he doesn’t step up to avoid the rush; and, as TG said, once he [i]does[/i] feel the pressure, the eyes are no longer looking downfield.[/I][/B]

2012 was not entirely a fluke, but, as we have seen, it was also not the norm. The offense that worked for him has not worked as a base offense for anyone else since then. While still used, the pistol and read-option as done by RGIII/Shanahan is more than a gimmick but less than a solid base from which to run an offense. While RGIII might be an average QB in some of the offenses you mention, and based on his performance over the past two years, I would suggest he is – at best – an average to below average QB even in “offenses that have spread and zone-read elements.”

To be clear, I like RGIII and am very hopeful that he succeeds here. I believe that, right now, he is a very limited QB with exceptional athleticism, arm strength and, potentially, downfield accuracy. Some of his limitations may be overcome if he can accept coaching. Not sure if others can.[/quote]

Agree with everything in this post,especially the highlighted part.That goes back to college,most if not all the scouting reports on RG3 saw problems with his pocket awareness.Unfortunately I dont think its something he can learn,its just instinct and you feel it.When have you ever seen Griff feel the blindside rusher coming at him and spin out of it or move out of the way?I would say never,Romo probably does it once or more a game,its just having a feel and Griff doesnt have it.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1115505]Agree with everything in this post,especially the highlighted part.That goes back to college,most if not all the scouting reports on RG3 saw problems with his pocket awareness.Unfortunately I dont think its something he can learn,its just instinct and you feel it.[B]When have you ever seen Griff feel the blindside rusher coming at him and spin out of it or move out of the way?[/B]I would say never,Romo probably does it once or more a game,its just having a feel and Griff doesnt have it.[/quote]

Exactly. His first instinct is to pull the ball down and run, or to back peddle. Not sure they can coach that out of him and we won't really be able to tell if he's improved until he has a real pass rush coming at him.

Brady, who's as slow as a turtle is probably better than anyone at it..feeling the rush and making a small step or two to buy more time. Romo is also really good at it as well.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1115505]Agree with everything in this post,especially the highlighted part.That goes back to college,most if not all the scouting reports on RG3 saw problems with his pocket awareness.Unfortunately I dont think its something he can learn,its just instinct and you feel it.When have you ever seen Griff feel the blindside rusher coming at him and spin out of it or move out of the way?I would say never,Romo probably does it once or more a game,its just having a feel and Griff doesnt have it.[/quote]

I also think he lacks pocket awareness. And what a crying shame that is because if he felt the rush better he could use his athleticism and speed to turn broken plays into big plays for his team. When he was drafted, I thought he would be amazing as a scrambler.

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His health is everything. If he physically feels shaky he loses his mental capacity as well as has been evident. His health is most important imo

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[QUOTE=That Guy;1115488]...once he starts to scramble (not boot or roll out, but scramble), the play is already over, he pulls his eyes off the field and the ball is basically never going to go farther than 8 yards at that point. that's something wilson or rodger etc (ie, good QBs) don't do. his instincts are just bad there (pretty consistently too). he also has shown very little skill in predicting/sensing the rush, which compounds the problem by causing him to take off too early.[/quote]Hey, to each there own. If you honesty can't recall Griffin making plays downfield while scrambling I don't know what to tell you other then I disagree. Heck, even last year the play he was injured on against the Jags was a scramble play where he threw to DeSean.

I think Griffin's poor play last year has colored people memory of Griffin's level of play prior. The whole 'sensing the rush' narrative is overblown in my view. Does Griffin need to improve in this area? Yes. Is Griffin ever going to be like Romo,one of the leagues best houdini QBs? No. Would you have said Griffin had these problems sensing the rush in his rookie season?

[QUOTE]that's really the issue that's holding him back the most. (he can be inconsistent reading D's etc, but that's not as hard to fix as bad instincts, which are REALLY hard to change). If he gets amazing protection, that hides it, and maybe allows him time to try and get it fixed, but the odds are generally against it.[/QUOTE]I think Griffin's issue are reversed. I think Griffin issues with pocket presence are directly a result of lack of understanding with the play concepts. To me Griffin's problem last year are the growing pains of a QB learning to play in a rhythm WCO QB. Griffin faced a monumental transition and the difficulty of his transition were compounded by not having a QB coach; playing in an offense that didn't play to his strengths; and a HC that was impatient with having to teaching/grooming Griffin.

[quote]I'm all for giving him another shot, I'd much rather be wrong and have him killing teams left and right, it's just hard to see that happening after seeing basically no progress the last two years.[/QUOTE]I agree its hard to see Griffin succeed here but for different reasons. I think Griffin's success is much more linked to Jay's ability/willingness to adapt his scheme and attitude towards Griffin. Personally I think we should have traded Griffin before the season began to get whatever value we could because I don't think Jay believes in him and ultimately I don't see how a QB can succeed without actually belief/support in their QB.

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[quote=30gut;1115524]Hey, to each there own. If you honesty can't recall Griffin making plays downfield while scrambling I don't know what to tell you other then I disagree. Heck, even last year the play he was injured on against the Jags was a scramble play where he threw to DeSean.

[B][I]I think Griffin's poor play last year has colored people memory of Griffin's level of play prior. The whole 'sensing the rush' narrative is overblown in my view. Does Griffin need to improve in this area? Yes. Is Griffin ever going to be like Romo,one of the leagues best houdini QBs? No. Would you have said Griffin had these problems sensing the rush in his rookie season? [/I][/B]

I think Griffin's issue are reversed. I think Griffin issues with pocket presence are directly a result of lack of understanding with the play concepts. To me Griffin's problem last year are the growing pains of a QB learning to play in a rhythm WCO QB. Griffin faced a monumental transition and the difficulty of his transition were compounded by not having a QB coach; playing in an offense that didn't play to his strengths; and a HC that was impatient with having to teaching/grooming Griffin.

I agree its hard to see Griffin succeed here but for different reasons. I think Griffin's success is much more linked to Jay's ability/willingness to adapt his scheme and attitude towards Griffin.[U] Personally I think we should have traded Griffin before the season began to get whatever value we could because I don't think Jay believes in him and ultimately I don't see how a QB can succeed without actually belief/support in their QB.[/U][/quote]

Not just last yrs poor play,its been 2 yrs now.And no you wouldnt say that about Griff his rookie year because with that gimmick offense it rarely came into play.What Griff did his rookie yr should be thrown out the window,he's not that guy anymore since the knee blewout and he's not running an offense that can hide those flaws.

I dont think we should have traded him because there was no value there,but you have a good point about the coach believing in him.I"m all for giving him 1 more chance,but if he shows the same tendencies to take off running and not throwing the ball then I would not hesitate to pull him and stick in Cousins.I wouldnt give him more than 2 games to show he's improved,unless of course we win those 2 games.Winning changes everything,but if those 2 games are losses and Griff looks the same as the past 2 yrs I would yank him.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1115502]...2012 was not entirely a fluke, but, as we have seen, it was also not the norm. The offense that worked for him has not worked as a base offense for anyone else since then. While still used, the pistol and read-option as done by RGIII/Shanahan is more than a gimmick but less than a solid base from which to run an offense. While RGIII might be an average QB in some of the offenses you mention, and based on his performance over the past two years, I would suggest he is – at best – an average to below average QB even in “offenses that have spread and zone-read elements.”[/quote]Well I guess we'll just agree to disagree. I don't think a QB can have the success Griffin had as a rookie then suddenly forget how to play the position. I think Griffin plugged in to any of the offense I mentioned before would be an above average or better QB. But that isn't the type of offense Jay has run in the past.

[quote]To be clear, I like RGIII and am very hopeful that he succeeds here. I believe that, right now, he is a very limited QB with exceptional athleticism, arm strength and, potentially, downfield accuracy. Some of his limitations may be overcome if he can accept coaching. Not sure if others can.[/quote]I believe Griffin remains one of the most talented QBs in the NFL. I think most of his issues can be cured with coaching. However, I am not very hopeful that Griffin succeeds here because I think Griffin is a bad fit for Jay and the offense Jay wants to run. I hope I am wrong, but imho the evidence points to an unhappy ending.

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[quote=Chico23231;1115503]If you ask which am I more excited about, RG3 as our QB this year or all the excellent pro style QBs coming out of college into the draft this year....its clearly the latter.

FYI, im gonna be extremely tough on RG3 this year, he has zero excuses...health, system, oline, etc. [B]I will also have a low tolerance for RG3 apologists.[/B]

I have a funny feeling this ends bad.[/quote]

If there's any left, I think they're all hiding in the woodworks. It hurts me to say this, but it's time for him to put up or shut up. If he can't do it this year he will see the 2016 season in another uniform.

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[quote=mooby;1115548[B]]If there's any left, I think they're all hiding in the woodworks.[/B] It hurts me to say this, but it's time for him to put up or shut up. If he can't do it this year he will see the 2016 season in another uniform.[/quote]

^ Look one post up from yours.

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Guess I'm just an eternal optimist, but I think Griffin is very capable of turning things around.

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I do to.....

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Keep your fingers crossed as hope he can turn it all around.

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[quote=30gut;1115524]Hey, to each there own. If you honesty can't recall Griffin making plays downfield while scrambling I don't know what to tell you other then I disagree. Heck, even last year the play he was injured on against the Jags was a scramble play where he threw to DeSean.
[/quote]

you keep twisting posts into strawmen. no one's saying he's NEVER done anything good scrambling, just that he makes more bad plays then he should (especially the last 2 years post injury). he's obviously talented, just not consistent enough to be a reliable starter right now (the type that you're not looking to upgrade). It's definitely possible for him to turn it around, I just don't think it's the likely scenario.

and i really don't buy that his problems are jay's fault for not believing in him. that just feels like an excuse. He's been around the NFL long enough, it's time to put up or shut up.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/18525/rg-iii-sharp-during-redskins-practice]Robert Griffin III sharp during Washington Redskins practice - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1115573][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/18525/rg-iii-sharp-during-redskins-practice]Robert Griffin III sharp during Washington Redskins practice - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I like the mention of the screen game... Something I don't think Gruden took advantage of enough last year. It helps build a QB's confidence and we've got WRs that can excel in it.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1115573][URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/18525/rg-iii-sharp-during-redskins-practice"]Robert Griffin III sharp during Washington Redskins practice - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

Nice.....can't wait to see how he does against the Texans

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Nice report from yesterday.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1115552]^ Look one post up from yours.[/quote]

Give me a minute, let me get this foot out of my mouth. As I should've said, even the few remaining fans he has will acknowledge he doesn't have many opportunities left.

With that being said, I am happy to hear the good reports coming out of camp.

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[quote=That Guy;1115559]... no one's saying he's NEVER done anything good scrambling, just that he makes more bad plays then he should[/quote]
C'mon dude. You made a statement without qualifiers if you meant something different then you should have said. Anyhow, however you couch/parse your view of Griffin's ability to make plays scrambling we disagree. No need to go round in circles over it.

[quote=That Guy;1115559]It's definitely possible for him to turn it around, I just don't think it's the likely scenario.[/quote]We agree that Griffin has the talent to turn it around; except I don't see it happening in this scheme with this coach.

[quote]...and i really don't buy that his problems are jay's fault for not believing in him. that just feels like an excuse. He's been around the NFL long enough, it's time to put up or shut up.[/quote]Okay. But player performance doesn't happen in a vacuum. And it's not just Jay's lack belief alone that contributed to Griffin struggles. I've never said that. Griffin faults are his own; however coaching does play a role. So Jay's lack of belief might seem insignificant to you but the QB-playcaller/HC relationship is vital to the QB development and success. How can a player develop when the person responsible for that development didn't want to do it from as early as week 1 preseason? Then you have Griffin throwing the least amount of passes preseason passes then any QB on the team...did that help Griffin's development? Lack of patience, lack of commitment to run game etc All those things I mentioned early as contributing to Griffin's struggles follow at least impart from Jay's lack of belief.

So sure this is Griffin's last chance here but his success or failure here is inextricably tied to Jay's growth as a HC/playcaller. And based on past history I wouldn't put my money on Jay-Griffin working out.

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[quote=30gut;1115604]C'mon dude. You made a statement without qualifiers if you meant something different then you should have said. Anyhow, however you couch/parse your view of Griffin's ability to make plays scrambling we disagree. No need to go round in circles over it.
[/quote]

you're kidding right? unless i specifically say griffin isn't total garbage, you'll just assume it if i say he has any kind of flaw in his game? come on. no one is right or wrong 100% of the time, including griffin. i don't think it's unreasonable to assume people understand that without adding legal disclaimers to every post.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/18658/redskins-qb-rg-iii-makes-positive-strides-early-in-camp]Washington Redskins' Robert Griffin III makes positive strides in camp - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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Good to hear positive things about Griffin so far. But it's still practice, there's no real pass rush. We heard the same things about Jason Campbell.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1115750]Good to hear positive things about Griffin so far. But it's still practice, there's no real pass rush. We heard the same things about Jason Campbell.[/quote]

yup, Texans practice will tell us more

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Chris Russell was on 106.7 the other day. Still says that a lot of people in the organization don't believe in Griffin.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1115754]Chris Russell was on 106.7 the other day. Still says that a lot of people in the organization don't believe in Griffin.[/quote]

At this point, most opinions about RGIII mean very little. It's put up or shut up time. He's getting his shot to secure the starting QB job. If he plays well, he'll probably be our QB for years to come. If he doesn't, he'll almost certainly be gone after this season. It seems to be just that simple.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1115754]Chris Russell was on 106.7 the other day. Still says that a lot of people in the organization don't believe in Griffin.[/quote]

His play on the field will dictate that, if he plays well he will be our franchise QB. If he does not then he will be gone. Nothing personal. People are trying to make it personal but it is not. You have to earn your job and part of that is being healthy enough to play.
I can not help but feel like the recent articles quoting RGIII saying the team want him to be (play) "ordinary" and not try to do too much was a bit of a passive aggressive stupid thing to say. At lease his choice of words was poor. I realize his intentions might not have been....

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[quote=Defensewins;1115761]... I can not help but feel like the recent articles quoting RGIII saying the team want him to be (play) "ordinary" and not try to do too much was a bit of a passive aggressive stupid thing to say.[/quote]

Yup. Struck me the same way. "Look, I could be the savior/superman/Peyton Manning/superstar QB, but that's not what they want. So, I'll just waste my copious talents and follow this mundane script." I am pretty certain that was not what he meant and it was probably more of a "I just need to do my job, and let everyone else worry about theirs. The coaches don't need or want me to be Superman, they just want me to do all the basic stuff this offense requires. Once I can do that consistently, anything else is gravy."

[quote=Defensewins;1115761]At lease his choice of words was poor. I realize his intentions might not have been....[/quote]

Yes. He does that a lot.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1115754]Chris Russell was on 106.7 the other day. Still says that a lot of people in the organization don't believe in Griffin.[/quote]

He said that and then some.

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/08/03/gruden-had-to-convince-snyder-for-several-hours-to-bench-rg3/]Gruden Had to Convince Snyder for ‘Several Hours’ to Bench RG3 « CBS DC[/url]

According to Russell, Gruden had to convince Snyder “for several hours” last fall that benching Griffin was the proper call, suggesting the owner was very much a part of football decision-making.

“He had to, from what I was told, convince by going into Dan Snyder’s office for several hours last year in late November, to convince Dan why he needed to bench Robert, why he needed to take him out, why he was hurting the game,” Russell said.

Around the time Griffin was benched, after Week 12, Russell says is when a rumor surfaced inside Redskins Park that team owner Daniel Snyder had called Gruden’s agent to complain his client was “stealing money.”

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Hopefully the buck begins and ends with Scot. Gruden should have to answer to Scot and Scot alone.

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Am I the only one that thinks Griffin is saying the right things and actually means it? He seems to be practicing with confidence and he's not saying much, and he's been sharp. Let me know when there's something real to be worried about.

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No. You're not. It was just the one comment that struck me as "odd" and, given his history, easily spun wrong. Like I said, I truly believe he meant it in the most positive way possible.

He's been quiet, off social media, just playing ball, and, by all accounts, doing so very well. I am really, really hopeful that he pulls it together this year.

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It also seems to me that JG is giving him a little "earned" respect...
AND seems to be sincere! Scary...

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[quote=Mattyk;1115768]Am I the only one that thinks Griffin is saying the right things and actually means it? He seems to be practicing with confidence and he's not saying much, and he's been sharp. Let me know when there's something real to be worried about.[/quote]

I agree. I think there's been a lot of growing up this offseason by a number of folks in the organization. Hopefully, it translates to winning (or at least significant improvement). And if not, there will no doubt be changes.