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[quote=RobH4413;1054293]Via Twitter: Looks like Fletcher endorsing Morris as DC

"[URL="https://twitter.com/LFletcher59/status/421295877651980288"]@LFletcher59[/URL] I think Morris as DC would be great choice! Brings energy & excitement! Would feel pretty good about HC, DC, & OC then!"[/quote]

Def not an endorsement for Haz and that's for sure

Matty says 4pm press conf for gruden

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[quote=Chico23231;1054294]I dont see Riley as a MLB in a 4-3. I see him and Kerrigan as Outside LBs. Orakpo and Bowen as the DEs. Coefield and possible Jenkins as the DT. I think we need to bring in 4-3 MLB and get a DT immediately.[/quote]

I'd rather see both Rak and Kerrigan as DEs, have our own version of Freeney/Mathis in their primes.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1054291]I think Rak is a better DE , more like a Mathis was for Indy or is[/quote]

W/out question...putting him in pass coverage was just stupid as stupid can be.

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[quote=Chico23231;1054296]Def not an endorsement for Haz and that's for sure[/quote]

Fletcher via twitter again:

"[URL="https://twitter.com/LFletcher59"]@[B]LFletcher59[/B] [/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/LFletcher59/status/421294125242388480"]39m[/URL] Defensive struggles where not solely on salary cap [URL="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23excuses&src=hash"]#[B]excuses[/B][/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23blahblahblah&src=hash"]#[B]blahblahblah[/B][/URL]"

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[quote=RobH4413;1054301]Fletcher via twitter again:

"[URL="https://twitter.com/LFletcher59"]@[B]LFletcher59[/B] [/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/LFletcher59/status/421294125242388480"]39m[/URL] Defensive struggles where not solely on salary cap [URL="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23excuses&src=hash"]#[B]excuses[/B][/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23blahblahblah&src=hash"]#[B]blahblahblah[/B][/URL]"[/quote]

No offense to Fletch, but his performance was not the best this season.

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Went to check on a couple of stories on Washington Post concerning Gruden and come to find out that they've been limiting people to 20 free articles per month since June.

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Granted it seems I can get around it with Incognito mode in Chrome but still the attempt to use paywall as a revenue stream is absurd. In terms of Redskins related news they weren't even in the top 5. It's beyond me how someone can get to an upper management position and not understand basic concepts concerning the internet. All they see is 'x amount of people read us online so if we charge them we'll be rich.' Sorry I know I'm late to this party but the stupidity of some of these companies is enough to drive me insane.

Anyway Jay Gruden. Good hire. Kind of preferred Wisenhunt but certainly not disappointed with JG. Slightly concerned that most of the staff is already in place. A little bit of deja vu from the Zorn train wreck. Would kind of like to see a switch back to the 4-3 but unfortunately we are very short on traditional linebackers right now, a problem which plagued the Eagles for many years after the death of Johnson.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1054298]I'd rather see both Rak and Kerrigan as DEs, have our own version of Freeney/Mathis in their primes.[/quote]

I agree. I think that it is our most effective approach. Both Rak and Kerrigan are best with hands down.

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Seen at Redskins Park this morning...

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdjA2f7IYAEqg4Q.jpg[/IMG]

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Let's roll with Jay Gruden and see where he takes us. I'm fine with the hire. Cautiously optimistic.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1054305]Seen at Redskins Park this morning...

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdjA2f7IYAEqg4Q.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Lol.

Although rumors have it that the photo is actually from the Cardinals.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1054298]I'd rather see both Rak and Kerrigan as DEs, have our own version of Freeney/Mathis in their primes.[/quote]

Yeah, that would work too.

Bowen is a DT in a 4-3? I think Jenkins could be. Bowen could be the man out in the switch.

Linebackers wil be a major need

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[quote=Ruhskins;1054298]I'd rather see both Rak and Kerrigan as DEs, have our own version of Freeney/Mathis in their primes.[/quote]

This. Orakpo got 10 sacks even though he wasn't rushing nearly every down. I think he'd be a beast as a 4-3 DE.

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[B]@LFletcher59 39m

I think Morris as DC would be great choice! Brings energy & excitement! Would feel pretty good about HC, DC, & OC then![/B]


How's this for a ringing endorsement for Haslett. ALready starting this new regime on a bad note.

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[quote=Lotus;1054285]Don't forget that Haz was Gruden's boss with the Tuskers. The choice to retain Haz may have more to do with JG than with Snyder.[/quote]

Let us hope that is the case. It is what I am leaning towards...

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[quote=Chico23231;1054290]Good point, still just dont like it.

So is it official back to the 4-3?[/quote]Would expect the defense to be very multiple.

But I imagine they will stop two gapping, which makes up (nominally) a 4-3 defense. But Orakpo (if he's retained) will not change positions to DE. Just Kerrigan.

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Before people continue to get their panties in a bunch, ESPN is reporting that Morris is a candidate for DC...

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10267454/washington-redskins-hire-jay-gruden-coach]Washington Redskins hire Jay Gruden as coach - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1054294]I dont see Riley as a MLB in a 4-3. I see him and Kerrigan as Outside LBs. Orakpo and Bowen as the DEs. Coefield and possible Jenkins as the DT. I think we need to bring in 4-3 MLB and get a DT immediately.[/quote]

Are you kidding me?

Kerrigan was a great DE in college. Some of his best work with the Redskins has been when they moved him inside and he could work against OG's. He would be outstanding for us at LDE. We need to re-sign Orakpo to play RDE.

Bowen couldn't rush the passer if his life depended on it. But he would be fine in the rotation at DT.

Cofield and Chris Baker could be a nice pairing at DT. I foresee them as the starters with Bowen and Jarvis Jenkins in the rotation.

I doubt that Perry Riley is fast enough to play OLB but I think he'd be OK at MLB. Keenan Robinson might make a good OLB in a 4-3. Even so, we're probably going to need to bring in some OLB candidates.

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I love how everyone is bashing keeping Haslett when it isn't truly official yet. It's all just speculation at this point. There are already conflicting media sources our there about it. Lets wait until its official to pass judgement.

That being said, I'm glad they hired Gruden. Hope this gets is on the right track. Can't wait to see what off season moves we make.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1054313]Before people continue to get their panties in a bunch, ESPN is reporting that Morris is a candidate for DC...

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10267454/washington-redskins-hire-jay-gruden-coach]Washington Redskins hire Jay Gruden as coach - ESPN[/url][/QUOTE]

Good deal

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[quote=SkinzWin;1054315]I love how everyone is bashing keeping Haslett when it isn't truly official yet. It's all just speculation at this point. There are already conflicting media sources our there about it. Lets wait until its official to pass judgement.

That being said, I'm glad they hired Gruden. Hope this gets is on the right track. Can't wait to see what off season moves we make.[/quote]

People always need something to b*tch about.

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Meh...at least its not a fcking Special Teams coordinator with no prior head coaching experience.

What's the over/under on Jay's tenure as Skins' HC?

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[quote=saden1;1054318]Meh...at least its not a fcking Special Teams coordinator with no prior head coaching experience.

What's the over/under on [B]Jon's [/B]tenure as Skins' HC?[/quote]

Whatever it is I'll take the under since 0 is under anything.

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[quote=FRPLG;1054319]Whatever it is I'll take the under since 0 is under anything.[/quote]

Lol, what about jay?

Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins
 

[quote=saden1;1054318]Meh...at least its not a fcking Special Teams coordinator with no prior head coaching experience.

[B]What's the over/under on Jon's tenure as Skins' HC[/B][B]?[/B][/quote]

Only someone as persistently negative as you are would even be thinking of that right now.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1054313]Before people continue to get their panties in a bunch, ESPN is reporting that Morris is a candidate for DC...

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10267454/washington-redskins-hire-jay-gruden-coach]Washington Redskins hire Jay Gruden as coach - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Interesting...

[quote]Gruden has deep ties to numerous members of the organization, which is why he was always considered one of the top favorites for the position. He worked as a Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive assistant for five seasons under general manager Bruce Allen, now the Redskins general manager. Redskins secondary coach Raheem Morris worked with Gruden in Tampa; Redskins tight ends coach Sean McVay worked with Gruden for one year in Tampa and one year in the United Football League. Finally, Gruden served as the offensive coordinator for Jim Haslett in the UFL with the Florida Tuskers.

McVay is expected to become Washington's offensive coordinator under Gruden, while Morris is a candidate to be named the defensive coordinator, according to league sources.[/quote]

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Anyone know who the Bengals FA's are? We are going to get some of them.

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MarkMaske ‏@MarkMaske 21m
LaMonte... "He had an existing relationship with McVay. That certainly played into it. He was intrigued by the talent of the quarterback.”
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Gruden's agent says he is intrigued by RG3. So there's goes that Kirk Cousins riff raff.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1054329]Anyone know who the Bengals FA's are? We are going to get some of them.[/quote]

Here you go boss

DE Michael Johnson (UFA)
OT Anthony Collins (UFA)
WR Andrew Hawkins (RFA)
S Chris Crocker (UFA)
S Taylor Mays (UFA)
WR Brandon Tate (UFA)
CB Brandon Ghee (UFA)
LB Vincent Rey (RFA)
OG Mike Pollak (UFA)
TE Alex Smith (UFA)
WR Dan Sanzenbacher (RFA)
OT Dennis Roland (UFA)
P Zoltan Mesko (UFA)
DT Ogemdi Nwagbo (UFA)

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1054329]Anyone know who the Bengals FA's are? We are going to get some of them.[/quote]

DE Michael Johnson (UFA)
OT Anthony Collins (UFA)
WR Andrew Hawkins (RFA)
S Chris Crocker (UFA)
S Taylor Mays (UFA)
WR Brandon Tate (UFA)
CB Brandon Ghee (UFA)
LB Vincent Rey (RFA)
OG Mike Pollak (UFA)
TE Alex Smith (UFA)
WR Dan Sanzenbacher (RFA)
OT Dennis Roland (UFA)
P Zoltan Mesko (UFA)
DT Ogemdi Nwagbo (UFA)

Collins and Mays hopefully. Also, I hope he gets Snyder to spend dough on Michael Johnson, assuming we go to 4-3. Him and OSackpo at ends, Kerrigan at LB?

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LOL.

Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlington 6m
Good luck ever topping this tweet, Twitter. RT @Dameshek: This is getting weird. The Browns just hired Mike Tirico's brother as head coach.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1054303]Went to check on a couple of stories on Washington Post concerning Gruden and come to find out that they've been limiting people to 20 free articles per month since June.

[IMG]http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/epic-jackie-chan-template.png[/IMG]

Granted it seems I can get around it with Incognito mode in Chrome but still the attempt to use paywall as a revenue stream is absurd. In terms of Redskins related news they weren't even in the top 5. It's beyond me how someone can get to an upper management position and not understand basic concepts concerning the internet. All they see is 'x amount of people read us online so if we charge them we'll be rich.' Sorry I know I'm late to this party but the stupidity of some of these companies is enough to drive me insane.

Anyway Jay Gruden. Good hire. Kind of preferred Wisenhunt but certainly not disappointed with JG. Slightly concerned that most of the staff is already in place. A little bit of deja vu from the Zorn train wreck. Would kind of like to see a switch back to the 4-3 but unfortunately we are very short on traditional linebackers right now, a problem which plagued the Eagles for many years after the death of Johnson.[/quote]

Where have you been???

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Honestly how much can we really blame Haslett. The fact that he was able to do what he did when we won the division in 2012 was nothing short of remarkable, he had no talent to work with. He's shown he can coach defense, $36 million in cap space should help him get some talent to work with.

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[quote=chrisl13;1054334]<snip>I hope he gets Snyder to spend dough on Michael Johnson, assuming we go to 4-3. Him and OSackpo at ends, Kerrigan at LB?[/quote]

Michael Johnson and Andrew Hawkins would be good signings. If we pay Orakpo nicely though, Johnson may not be worth it.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1054333]Here you go boss

[B]DE Michael Johnson (UFA)[/B]
[B]OT Anthony Collins (UFA)[/B]
WR Andrew Hawkins (RFA)
[B]S Chris Crocker (UFA)[/B]
S Taylor Mays (UFA)
[B]WR Brandon Tate (UFA)[/B]
CB Brandon Ghee (UFA)
LB Vincent Rey (RFA)
OG Mike Pollak (UFA)
TE Alex Smith (UFA)
WR Dan Sanzenbacher (RFA)
OT Dennis Roland (UFA)
[B]P Zoltan Mesko (UFA)[/B]
DT Ogemdi Nwagbo (UFA)[/quote]

I'd pilfer the bolded. Imagine Hawkins and Aldrick Robinson running streaks beside each other...we'd have the fastest WR corps in the league. He'd also make a great returner for us.

A punter named Zoltan? You can't let that once-in-a-lifetime opportunity pass you by.

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[quote=Schneed10;1054338]Honestly how much can we really blame Haslett. The fact that he was able to do what he did when we won the division in 2012 was nothing short of remarkable, he had no talent to work with. He's shown he can coach defense, $36 million in cap space should help him get some talent to work with.[/quote]

Overall his schemes were fine with me (with the exception of how he handles opposing TEs, WTF?!), it was the timing of his play-calls. I hope he at least learned some lessons because it always seemed he would have the least clutch call ever when we needed it the most.

Regardless of how our D works out next year, ALL I ASK is better third down defense. We seemed to be great on first and second only to fold on third no matter how far the down-and-distance.

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[quote=SirLK26;1054340]Michael Johnson and Andrew Hawkins would be good signings. If we pay Orakpo nicely though, Johnson may not be worth it.[/quote]

Johnson would be a great pick-up IF we stick with 3-4.

If we move back to a 4-3 as we should, there's no reason to sign him because benching one of the three DEs (Orakpo, Kerrigan, Johnson) would be a waste of money.

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I'm on the fence with Haslett sticking around. As long as they keep Keith Burns as ST coach I'll be happy.:Flush:

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[quote=Schneed10;1054338]Honestly how much can we really blame Haslett. The fact that he was able to do what he did when we won the division in 2012 was nothing short of remarkable, he had no talent to work with. He's shown he can coach defense, $36 million in cap space should help him get some talent to work with.[/quote]

At times, the man looked like a genius with the blitzes he came up with. We also forced a lot of TOs (despite not being able to stop anyone).

There's no doubt if he were given a competitive roster, he could do well.

I'd really like to just reset the whole Shanahan era though, including the defense.

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No surprise, he's family friends with the inner circle and that's much needed at Redskins Park.

I wish him tons of luck and multiple Super Bowl wins.