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Jarvis Jenkins suspended 1st 4 games of season

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1016800]Jarvis Jenkins suspended 1st 4 games of season[/QUOTE]

Great

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[quote=SmootSmack;1016800]Jarvis Jenkins suspended 1st 4 games of season[/quote]

Goodbye D-Line if this is true. Expect quarterbacks to have 30 seconds in the pocket. Slowly running out of depth.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1016800]Jarvis Jenkins suspended 1st 4 games of season[/quote]

wow..not good. not good at all.

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Can we make it through at least 1 season without a starter getting suspended?

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ESPN NFL - Redskins DE Jarvis Jenkins suspended 4 games (violated policy on performance-enhancing substances)

Are you Fing kidding me?!?

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So...do we sign Richard Seymour now?

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I criticize Pete Carroll for his team's apparent drug policy, but the Skins need to step up and make it clear it's not acceptable.

Makes you wonder if his rookie preseason flash was based on other than pure talent.

Yes I'd try and get Seymour now

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His statement says he was shocked and confused because the supplements he was taking made no reference to any banned substance. I wonder whether he will try to appeal this (whether his statement is true or not).

Separately, I don't know why teams don't have a standing rule that no one is to take a supplement without running it past a Redskins trainer first. I know they're ostensibly grownups, but this kind of thing should be preventable.

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With Keenan going down, hopefully an unknown like Jeremy Kimbrough can become our next Antonio Pierce. The Jenkins suspension blows my mind though.

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There is alot of funny stuff in suplements, and the FDA does not regulate them. It's kinda stupid at this point to blame it on your supplements.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1016800]Jarvis Jenkins suspended 1st 4 games of season[/quote]

Are you kidding me? Two DL starters down within the first two days of TC? We have to shake the FA tree at this point. No other option.


It's time for our FO to start cutting individuals that test positive. This has become a trend for this team and we rank near the top in players suspended for failed tests.

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The signing of Merling and Brace is looking really good now.

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I think we should trade our 2nd & 3rd picks next year for Jason Taylor.

Sorry ... having a Vinny redux moment.

Chill ... all will be well. We are just giving the other teams a headstart so our SB Championship run looks more impressive.

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[quote=Jayroc24;1016690]I wonder if Rob Jackson could swing inside and play MLB?[/quote]

Been wondering the same for a long time. He really showed some impressive skills. If there's even a chance of it, he should start practicing inside now and learn from Fletcher.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1016800]Jarvis Jenkins suspended 1st 4 games of season[/quote]

:doh:

At least we have options. But it's still disappointing.

Cofield at DE could be interesting if one of the big guys can handle NT. At least we know to prepare for it.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1016814]Are you kidding me? Two DL starters down within the first two days of TC? We have to shake the FA tree at this point. No other option.


It's time for our FO to start cutting individuals that test positive. This has become a trend for this team and we rank near the top in players suspended for failed tests.[/quote]

Don't go all vinny on us yet. We have Golston, Merling and Cofield who could move to DE on some plays. Also we could bring Worthington back if we want. It is disappointing that Jenkins got suspended but it won't cost us the season.

We are not only team with this "trend" in NFL, Seattle comes to the mind.

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Worthington? How?

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[quote=GridIron26;1016823]Don't go all vinny on us yet. We have Golston, Merling and Cofield who could move to DE on some plays. Also we could bring Worthington back if we want. It is disappointing that Jenkins got suspended but it won't cost us the season.

We are not only team with this "trend" in NFL, Seattle comes to the mind.[/quote]

Agreed. We have depth along the dine. Baker can play nose and Cofield can slide out to play DE.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1016786]We are dangerously thin at inside LB. Could be a serious problem if Fletcher or Riley get hurt. This is where you miss a Lo Alexander.[/quote]

I thought te same thing. Now with AC possibly out for the year then we could have afforded Lo if we had cut Carriker.

Stunned that we are losing Jenkins as well, and if it is for something stupid like painkillers then that's pretty dumb. RobJax is being suspended for his use of painkillers. These guys can get a script for those things without any problem.

Could we see both Baker and Nield kept at the beginning of the year with the plan of moving our best NT to DE in Cofield for the first four games?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1016809]Yes I'd try and get Seymour now[/quote]

Are you guys serious? Oakland let him go. He's washed up. No thanks.

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I don't see the hits to AC, Robinson and Jenkins as big deals. The FO had to of know AC was a long shot to return. He's long in the tooth and it was a flat nasty injury. Robinson was nowhere near ready to backup Fletcher, let alone start. He showed almost nothing last year and already had bad injury history. Our FO may well have written him off already. We'll bring in a solid FA to backup Fletch this season and look to a long term solution after this season, though I think Rob Jackson is still interesting to look at there.
Jenkins is a disappointment but we have options with Cofield moving over and Baker or the other big guy playing NT those first four games. Or Jenkins may even get to appeal, who knows.

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[quote=calia;1016811]His statement says he was shocked and confused because the supplements he was taking made no reference to any banned substance. I wonder whether he will try to appeal this (whether his statement is true or not).

[B]Separately, I don't know why teams don't have a standing rule that no one is to take a supplement without running it past a Redskins trainer first. I know they're ostensibly grownups, but this kind of thing should be preventable.[/B][/quote](Bold mine) Agree 100%. Where the trainer investigates the drug to make sure the ingredients are kosher, then asks a league official to make sure that drug is OK.

Jenkins, Jordan Black last season, are cases like these really a case of innocent "over the counter" or even "off the shelf" medicines tripping the NFLs drug tests? Or is that more likely an excuse a player uses when caught knowingly taking something against NFL rules?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1016824]Worthington? How?[/quote]

What do you mean by that? Unless he is still on the team?

[quote=HailGreen28;1016831]Jenkins, Jordan Black last season, are cases like these really a case of innocent "over the counter" or even "off the shelf" medicines tripping the NFLs drug tests? Or is that more likely an excuse a player uses when caught knowingly taking something against NFL rules?[/quote]

From what I read, Jordan Black was actually a scapegoat for NFL office - he had medical reasons and has been using the medicine for a while.

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Worthington's on IR.

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Oh I didn't know that

So, upon reflection, I think the end result of the Carriker injury and Jenkins suspension is that both Baker and Nield make the team. With Baker and cofield able to switch out to DE in the 3-4 set, it allows the team to keep a pure NT like Nield for the additional depth.

Getting really tired of these drug suspensions. Losing Jenkins on top of Carriker is a big hit.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1016835]So, upon reflection, I think the end result of the Carriker injury and Jenkins suspension is that both Baker and Nield make the team. With Baker and cofield able to switch out to DE in the 3-4 set, it allows the team to keep a pure NT like Nield for the additional depth.[/quote]

Did you steal that from my post one page back. :)

But yeah I agree unless we really can get something out of Branch? and Merlling.

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Looks like we are bringing in Joe Mays for a look. Anybody know anything about him?

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So whats the plan the first four games in Jenkins spot? Wouldnt mind Chris Baker over there on some plays and then sliding Cofield to the outside with Nield in the middle. Coefield and a healthy Nield and Bowen on the other side could be nasty. This situation hurts, but Im just thrilled Orakpo is back on that line for the rush. Contract year too? Orakpo to 10 sacks the first 10 games easy.

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[quote=Mattyk;1016836]Getting really tired of these drug suspensions. Losing Jenkins on top of Carriker is a big hit.[/quote]

I'm pretty disappointed in Jenkins. This year should've been the year he proved he was worth a second round pick, instead he's going to miss 1/4 of the season over some dumb shit.

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[quote=Mattyk;1016836]Getting really tired of these drug suspensions. Losing Jenkins on top of Carriker is a big hit.[/quote]I know it's only wiki, maybe your or SS or other knowledgeable people can list players not mentioned off the top of your head:

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_and_coaches_suspended_by_the_NFL"]A list of recent NFL suspensions)[/URL]

August 31, 2012 Indefinitef Tanard Jackson FS Washington Redskins
September 10, 2012 4 games Joe Haden CB Cleveland Browns
September 18, 2012 3 games Clark Haggans LB San Francisco 49ers
October 8, 2012 4 games Will Hill FS New York Giants
October 13, 2012 4 games Aqib Talib CB Tampa Bay Buccaneers
October 28, 2012 4 games Eric Wright CB Tampa Bay Buccaneers
November 9, 2012 4 games Brandon Bolden RB New England Patriots
November 20, 2012 4 games Winston Guy SS Seattle Seahawks
November 26, 2012 4 games Jermaine Cunningham DE New England Patriots
December 5, 2012 4 games Brandon Browner CB Seattle Seahawks
December 4, 2012 4 games Cedric Griffin CB Washington Redskins
December 17, 2012 4 games Jordan Black OT Washington Redskins
March 20, 2013 4 games Rob Jackson LB Washington Redskins
April 3, 2013 4 games Daryl Washington LB Arizona Cardinals
April 20, 2013 4 games Justin Blackmon WR Jacksonville Jaguars
May 17, 2013 4 games Bruce Irvin DE Seattle Seahawks
May 22, 2013 1 game Rokevious Watkins OG St. Louis Rams
May 31, 2013 1 game Isaiah Pead RB St. Louis Rams
June 4, 2013 4 games Gabe Miller TE Chicago Bears
June 7, 2013 2 games Josh Gordon WR Cleveland Browns
June 24, 2013 4 games Brandon Collins WR New York Giants
June 24, 2013 4 games LaVon Brazill WR Indianapolis Colts
July 18, 2013 8 games Weslye Saunders TE Indianapolis Colts
July 20, 2013 4 games Will Hill FS New York Giants
July 26, 2013 4 games Jarvis Jenkins DE Washington Redskins

We are getting more than our share. Gawd we're as bad as the SeaHags! Can't Shanny lay down the law or something? Or is there some easily correctable breakdown somewhere?

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Jenkins? What is going on?!!!
I'm not too relieved to hear Golston is next man up. The team is loaded with NT's. some of you have proposed Coffield slide out to DE but didn't Baker backup Jenkins last season? I can't see his big self able to play DE- didn't think he had that sort of speed/skillset.

Damn the Defense is taking a hit. Scary to think the secondary now has the most depth.

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Leave Cofield at NT, he's just too good there.

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REALLY.......pisses me off...

Eff the defense. A healthy garcon morris and griff are good for 30 a game!

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1016849]I know it's only wiki, maybe your or SS or other knowledgeable people can list players not mentioned off the top of your head:

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_and_coaches_suspended_by_the_NFL"]A list of recent NFL suspensions)[/URL]

August 31, 2012 Indefinitef Tanard Jackson FS Washington Redskins
September 10, 2012 4 games Joe Haden CB Cleveland Browns
September 18, 2012 3 games Clark Haggans LB San Francisco 49ers
October 8, 2012 4 games Will Hill FS New York Giants
October 13, 2012 4 games Aqib Talib CB Tampa Bay Buccaneers
October 28, 2012 4 games Eric Wright CB Tampa Bay Buccaneers
November 9, 2012 4 games Brandon Bolden RB New England Patriots
November 20, 2012 4 games Winston Guy SS Seattle Seahawks
November 26, 2012 4 games Jermaine Cunningham DE New England Patriots
December 5, 2012 4 games Brandon Browner CB Seattle Seahawks
December 4, 2012 4 games Cedric Griffin CB Washington Redskins
December 17, 2012 4 games Jordan Black OT Washington Redskins
March 20, 2013 4 games Rob Jackson LB Washington Redskins
April 3, 2013 4 games Daryl Washington LB Arizona Cardinals
April 20, 2013 4 games Justin Blackmon WR Jacksonville Jaguars
May 17, 2013 4 games Bruce Irvin DE Seattle Seahawks
May 22, 2013 1 game Rokevious Watkins OG St. Louis Rams
May 31, 2013 1 game Isaiah Pead RB St. Louis Rams
June 4, 2013 4 games Gabe Miller TE Chicago Bears
June 7, 2013 2 games Josh Gordon WR Cleveland Browns
June 24, 2013 4 games Brandon Collins WR New York Giants
June 24, 2013 4 games LaVon Brazill WR Indianapolis Colts
July 18, 2013 8 games Weslye Saunders TE Indianapolis Colts
July 20, 2013 4 games Will Hill FS New York Giants
July 26, 2013 4 games Jarvis Jenkins DE Washington Redskins

We are getting more than our share. Gawd we're as bad as the SeaHags! Can't Shanny lay down the law or something? Or is there some easily correctable breakdown somewhere?[/QUOTE]

How is Will Hill not suspended for more than four games his second time around?

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[quote=chewman;1016844]Looks like we are bringing in Joe Mays for a look. Anybody know anything about him?[/quote]

He makes zero sense as a replacement for Robinson. So my only guess is they really believe in Muckelroy to step up and for Mays to take Muck's spot on ST.

More likely though is he's just visiting and nothing more

But who knows, they need bodies so they may just end up signing him. He won't be the only visit though