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it's time to start trying some different things on defense

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........Whew...hard to watch that...
ThankYou Sir.....may I have another...Smack!

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[quote=GTripp0012;957892]I don't think it's asking too much of our defense to not be beaten before the snap. Roethlisberger is a lot better at the line of scrimmage than he was four years ago, but he's not the kind of quarterback that a defensive coordinator shouldn't be able to catch in the wrong play every so often.[/quote]

What if i told you im jim haslett?

[QUOTE=los panda;957900]it's time to start trying some different things on defense[/QUOTE]

Like trying to sneak 18 guys onto the field.


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[QUOTE=Hog1;957905]........Whew...hard to watch that...
ThankYou Sir.....may I have another...Smack![/QUOTE]

Lol.


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Offense couldn't sustain drives because of too many drops by WRs today. Gotta help the defense by staying on the field. I though Hankerson played bad enough today, that he maybe deserves a benching?

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Where to begin, worst part of all is getting dominated by a team wearing the most awful looking uni's I've ever seen, those throwbacks are throw aways. It is an ongoing saga, no pass rush, which has been a problem for years. Last year with a healthy Orakpo and Carricker the D seemed able to generate more pressure. This year there is just no rush. Big Ben was like 13 for 15 or something close and the only incompletions where drops, which is what led to big early led. The Skins just don't have the talent at this level to overcome that kind of adversity, would not be surprised if there was a 'hang over' from the Giants game.

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[quote=Deivybaby;957907]What if i told you im jim haslett?[/quote]

I don't know about GTripp but I'd ask you to hit the road.

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Guess I was wrong about the PAT kick. Still I feel better about our kicking situation.

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[quote=FRPLG;957829]It's not that our defense got outplayed. They got out schemed. We weren't just blowing assignments and stuff. They were getting gains via scheming. I gotta believe that our defense can at least be prepared better. Not a big fan or=f blaming the coaching but seriously we were totally inept on defense. Who's that on?[/quote]

We rarely agree...but you're spot on here.

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[quote=Chico23231;957822]Agree. Not only Hall, but Doughty, M Williams, C Griffin, Gomes. The entire Secondary is crap. its just brutal to watch.[/quote]Griffin and Gomes have potential. Can't argue against you on the rest. Wilson ordinarily plays well. I thought the Steelers just ran the right routes that dissected our D, they just ran right to gaps in our zones, and where there was no coverage in the flat because the LB had rushed upfield or inside. That's a coaching issue.

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[quote=Deivybaby;957907]What if i told you im jim haslett?[/quote]Obvious trolling is obvious, lol, but I can't resist. Haslett, you might want to call your real estate agent. Now.

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[quote=HailGreen28;957959]Griffin and Gomes have potential. Can't argue against you on the rest. Wilson ordinarily plays well. I thought the Steelers just ran the right routes that dissected our D, they just ran right to gaps in our zones, and where there was no coverage in the flat because the LB had rushed upfield or inside. That's a coaching issue.[/quote]griffin has potential?

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Same crap, different year... Very difficult to watch today.

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[quote=Daseal;957823]Saw a few big issues here.

1) Secondary is terrible.
2) We have no pass rush -- manufactured through blitzes or from our rushers.
[B]3) I know I'm going to be killed for this, but it's time to start rotating Feltcher out. He was a liability all day. He had one great play, and a lot of straight up bad ones.[/B]
4) Drops were terrible. I can see maybe 2-3 of them being at least partially on Griff. One was very smart, when Young was behind the line with Steelers around and he let it hit him and fall to the ground. Save clock/etc.
5) We had no urgency late. Tick Tock.

Overall a bad day.[/quote]

He's probably playing a little hurt but I do agree. He simply can't cover NFL TE's.

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aside from the xp, forbath is looking sharp

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;957959]Griffin and Gomes have potential. Can't argue against you on the rest. Wilson ordinarily plays well. I thought the Steelers just ran the right routes that dissected our D, they just ran right to gaps in our zones, and where there was no coverage in the flat because the LB had rushed upfield or inside. That's a coaching issue.[/QUOTE]

The Skins are on pace to give up the most passing yards of all time. The issue is not the Steelers running the right routes. It's the fact that we have zero pass rush and zero talent in the secondary. Has nothing to do with the opponent. Anyone can dissect our Defense right now.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;957842]All i got say is, the colts are 4-3 have less talent than the skins and have an interim coach at the helm. What's the Redskins excuse?[/quote]

Redskins have been playing winning record teams. Colts, not so much.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;957876]The rookie phenom might not have RGIII but has a couple come from behind wibs and is also a rookie. My point is the skins have more talent yet can't seem to win the games they should.[/quote]

The skins have been in every game this year with the exception of this one. The only game I had them winning that they didn't so far is agains STL...a tough loss

Here are their losses

Lost at Pittsburg
Lost at NYG
Lost vs the undefeated Falcons
Lost a close one to Bengals (a playoff team last year)
Lost by 3 at STL

You really had them winning most of those games?

The fact is, this team is better on offense, worse on defense. Pick your poison. You don't go after a guy like RGIII, surround him with a few weapons, and in the same year expect to improve your defense...with all the injuries (suspension) we have had I am not the least bit surprised that our D is as bad as it has been.

The skins will be lucky to end up .500 when it is all said and done, and that is about where most "experts" expected this team to be. I thought they had a chance to surprise some if they were able to stay healthy, but that is not the case.

All in all, I guess my point is I think they are about where they should be given the totality of circumstances dealt to them this season thus far.

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Maybe Hurricane Sandy can blow the funk off this team...

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[quote=los panda;957975]aside from the xp, forbath is looking sharp[/quote]

Yeah, a pleasant surprise...

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[quote=los panda;957965]griffin has potential?[/quote]

its C Griffin last stop before retirement. he's not good

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[quote=los panda;957965]griffin has potential?[/quote]Cedric. I know he's 29, but I think he's improving.

Though at this point, sure put RGIII at corner. Shades of Sammy Baugh.*






*nononononono


really late edit: OK guys, poor word choice on my part and over optimism on Griffin. I thought Griffin played better the past couple games and played with fire without going off like Hall did, but silly to say a 29 yr old vet has "potential".

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;957980]Redskins have been playing winning record teams. Colts, not so much.[/QUOTE]

Playing and beating are two totally different things. We beat Minnesota - tampa - and the Saints. Only Minn has a winning record and we caught them in their downward spiral. Indy beat the Pack and Minn when they were hot. They also beat Tennessee who beat Pitt. We lost to the Rams and Bengals who have losing records also. Indy is a winning team rite now. We are not.


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[quote=punch it in;958000]Playing and beating are two totally different things. We beat Minnesota - tampa - and the Saints. Only Minn has a winning record and we caught them in their downward spiral. Indy beat the Pack and Minn when they were hot. They also beat Tennessee [B]who beat Pitt[/B]. We lost to the Rams and Bengals who have losing records also. Indy is a winning team rite now. We are not.


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That argument means nothing. Redskins beat the Vikings who beat the 49ers, so therefore the Redskins are better than the 49ers, and therefore the Redskins are better than the Packers, who beat the Texans who beat the Ravens who beat the Patriots so therefore the Redskins are the second best team in the NFL (the Falcons being first).

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that turd was tough to watch.

props to griff and this kicker who's 6/6 now. everyone else can be lined up and shot. rough.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;958007]That argument means nothing. Redskins beat the Vikings who beat the 49ers, so therefore the Redskins are better than the 49ers, and therefore the Redskins are better than the Packers, who beat the Texans who beat the Ravens who beat the Patriots so therefore the Redskins are the second best team in the NFL (the Falcons being first).[/QUOTE]

Dude you said that you cant compare the Colts to the Skins cus we play winning teams. Simply look at who the colts beat and look at whi we have beaten. Than go back and edit your original comment.

Edit: we are 1-3 against winning teams and got bad Minnesota
They are 2-1 against winning teams and got good Minnesota.
So explain to me how were playing winning teams and they arent? They arent only playing them but they are beating them!
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[quote=punch it in;958021]Dude you said that you cant compare the Colts to the Skins cus we play winning teams. Simply look at who the colts beat and look at whi we have beaten. Than go back and edit your original comment.

Edit: we are 1-3 against winning teams and got [B]bad[/B] Minnesota
They are 2-1 against winning teams and got [B]good[/B] Minnesota.
So explain to me how were playing winning teams and they arent? They arent only playing them but they are beating them!
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What is this good-bad crap? We both played Minnesota.

Also just look at the Colts schedule and our schedule ours is tougher. They don't play the Giants Eagles and Cowboys, they play Tennessee, Jax and Houston. Easier conference.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;958029]What is this good-bad crap? We both played Minnesota.

Also just look at the Colts schedule and our schedule ours is tougher. They don't play the Giants Eagles and Cowboys, they play Tennessee, Jax and Houston. Easier conference.[/QUOTE]

Did you just imply that the eagles and cowboys are better than Houston? Gotta scratch my head there bro. Also not sure if you follow just the Redskins or the entire league ( either way i dont care. - im a yankee fan but could give a crap about mlb) - but in case you havent noticed Minnesota has pretty much taken a nose dive after their incredibly hot start. Its not a big secret. Did you see the Thursday nite game? That would be bad Minnesota. Lol.


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I'm glad I turned it off at the 4 min mark so I missed this gem.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/deangelo-hall-gets-ejected-steelers-game-makes-little-205002300--nfl.html]DeAngelo Hall gets ejected from Steelers game, makes little difference otherwise | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]


I agree with Ruhskins about leadership issues. Mike needs to send a message to the rest of the team this isn't going to fly. This isn't Dhall's first time with this crap so I'd sit him for a game.

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[quote=NC_Skins;958124]I'm glad I turned it off at the 4 min mark so I missed this gem.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/deangelo-hall-gets-ejected-steelers-game-makes-little-205002300--nfl.html]DeAngelo Hall gets ejected from Steelers game, makes little difference otherwise | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]


I agree with Ruhskins about leadership issues. Mike needs to send a message to the rest of the team this isn't going to fly. This isn't Dhall's first time with this crap so I'd sit him for a game.[/quote]What's the point of having Hall anymore? Like, there has to be something to like about him? What is he good at?

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[quote=NC_Skins;958124]I'm glad I turned it off at the 4 min mark so I missed this gem.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/deangelo-hall-gets-ejected-steelers-game-makes-little-205002300--nfl.html]DeAngelo Hall gets ejected from Steelers game, makes little difference otherwise | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]


I agree with Ruhskins about leadership issues. Mike needs to send a message to the rest of the team this isn't going to fly. This isn't Dhall's first time with this crap so I'd sit him for a game.[/quote]

From what I read he may sit whether Shanny likes it or not. I believe the article said he was hit with 2 unsportsmanlike penalties and could be suspended next week. Shanny heard what Hall said but would only say it was enough to draw a flag and he was really disappointed in Hall since they talk about keeping your cool quite often
I'm paraphasing but you get the drift.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;957981]The skins have been in every game this year with the exception of this one. The only game I had them winning that they didn't so far is agains STL...a tough loss

Here are their losses

Lost at Pittsburg
Lost at NYG
Lost vs the undefeated Falcons
Lost a close one to Bengals (a playoff team last year)
Lost by 3 at STL

You really had them winning most of those games?

The fact is, this team is better on offense, worse on defense. Pick your poison. You don't go after a guy like RGIII, surround him with a few weapons, and in the same year expect to improve your defense...with all the injuries (suspension) we have had I am not the least bit surprised that our D is as bad as it has been.

The skins will be lucky to end up .500 when it is all said and done, and that is about where most "experts" expected this team to be. I thought they had a chance to surprise some if they were able to stay healthy, but that is not the case.

All in all, I guess my point is I think they are about where they should be given the totality of circumstances dealt to them this season thus far.[/quote]

Yes, they should have beaten St. Louis, Cincy and the Giants.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;958146]Yes, they should have beaten St. Louis, Cincy and the Giants.[/QUOTE]

Should have beaten STL for sure and yes NY we had them beat but they r the champs for a reason

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People predict us to go 7-9, or 6-10 this year because we are a young team. Then, when we play like a young team and lose. Those same people get surprised, and start calling for the chopping block.

It's like you don't believe you own words.

We will win no more then 8 games this year. Most likely less... We have a young team, and are missing some big pieces. You guys don't seem to realize that it was less then 5 years ago we had a roster full of players who don't even see the field anymore and we paid them enough money to own a island.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;958158]Should have beaten STL for sure and yes NY we had them beat but they r the champs for a reason[/quote]

Bad safety play did us in.

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[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/steelers-27-redskins-12-ten-observations/article/2511957#.UI3oiETgIhg]Steelers 27, Redskins 12: Ten Observations | WashingtonExaminer.com[/url]

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[quote=Bucket;958240]You guys don't seem to realize that it was less then 5 years ago we had a roster full of players who don't even see the field anymore and we paid them enough money to own a island.[/quote]Good thing all the DeAngelo Hall types have been cut.

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[quote=NC_Skins;958124]I'm glad I turned it off at the 4 min mark so I missed this gem.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/deangelo-hall-gets-ejected-steelers-game-makes-little-205002300--nfl.html]DeAngelo Hall gets ejected from Steelers game, makes little difference otherwise | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]


I agree with Ruhskins about leadership issues. Mike needs to send a message to the rest of the team this isn't going to fly. This isn't Dhall's first time with this crap so I'd sit him for a game.[/quote]

Shanahan is soft.

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[quote=GTripp0012;958255]Good thing all the DeAngelo Hall types have been cut.[/quote]

He's pretty much the last one and I would be ok if they cut him tomorrow.