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SFREDSKIN 01-04-2011 09:49 PM

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As expected Baalke gets the 49ers GM job:

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=80285]Breaking: Baalke gets GM job : Niner Insider[/url]

SFREDSKIN 01-04-2011 09:51 PM

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Also from Adam S.:

Filed to ESPN: Raiders informed Tom Cable they will not pick up the option in his contract. He no longer is the Raiders head coach.

BaltimoreSkins 01-04-2011 09:59 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775172]REALLY? Your joking right

He's a terrible HC[/quote]

He has finished .500 or better 5 out of 7 years in a very tough division and won the division twice when they hadn't done anything in over a decade. He has turned a culture of failure in to a respectable organization. I don't think he is a great HC, but he certainly is not terrible as a HC.

sportscurmudgeon 01-04-2011 10:00 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;774998]Funny how when you listen to the media on the Raiders situation, they label Al Davis as "unpredictable" when the more appropriate term should be "buffoonery".[/quote]

And when they label the Skins and Danny Boy as "whatever", and the more appropriate term is "buffonery" and/or "junior varsity" and/or "just plain stupid" will you accept "whatever" without calling it a media bias against the Redskins?

Al Davis is a meddlesome owner who ran a good team/franchise into the ground for seven or eight years. Danny Boy is younger than Al Davis...

sportscurmudgeon 01-04-2011 10:04 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;775034]Carolina needs a clue. Let me help: Hire Jim Harbaugh and then draft Andrew Luck #1. If nothing else, it should sell tickets.

If they can't get Harbaugh, they should hire Cowher.[/quote]


Carolina may need a clue - - but they are going to do it on a shoestring budget. The record this year is due - - in part - - to the fact that the team spent the dead minimum on player salaries and paid big money to just about nobody.

Unless someone takes the lock off the ownership wallet there, Cowher and/or Harbaugh are not going to visit Charlotte for an interview; the owner will have to come to visit them if they will make time to see him.

This is precisely why Russ Grimm MIGHT be on the short list for a job here. As a first time head coach - - who has already been passed over a couple of times - - he might be willing to work cheap to get his foot in the door.

sportscurmudgeon 01-04-2011 10:20 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;774886]I think haslett has done a pretty damn good job considering all of the injuries and the haynesworth bull shit.. In fact look at the division defensive stats and we aren't that bad points wise

In fact we gave up 17 Points or less in 9 games this season.[/quote]


"Pretty damn good" defenses get lots of takeaways. The Skins had 2.5 per game which is average at best. :Flush:


"Pretty damn good" defenses score points on defense. Skins had 1 INT returned for a TD and - - I believe - - 1 fumbel returned for a TD. That is less than average; it is pretty bad. :tongue


"Pretty damn good" defenses allow the team to dominate time of possession because they keep the "other guys" off the field. Redskins average time of posession in 2010 was 28 minutes and 5 seconds. That translates to a "pretty damn lousy" performance... :vomit:


"Pretty damn good" defenses do not allow 70% conversions on fourth down tries. :nono:


...

sportscurmudgeon 01-04-2011 10:24 PM

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[quote=12thMan;775158]I would be very leery of any coach, regardless of his credentials, who has been out of coaching more than a year. The game just changes so fast and the culture seems to be constantly evolving. It was pretty evident that even Shanahan, at times, had challenges adjusting during games and handling multiple personalities.

If I'm the owner of a team in need of a head coach, I'm staying away from Jon Gruden and Bill Cowher. They've acclimated to studio life and being TV personalities, I just think it would take some time for them to start working 16 hour days and juggling an NFL roster.[/quote]

Recall a guy named Dick Vermeil...

He was out of coaching and acclimated to studio life for about 15 years and then he came back to coaching and won a Super Bowl.

Just saying...

SirClintonPortis 01-04-2011 10:31 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775237]Also from Adam S.:

Filed to ESPN: Raiders informed Tom Cable they will not pick up the option in his contract. He no longer is the Raiders head coach.[/quote]
Lol, Al Davis gets one year right but immediately starts bombing his team.

skinsfaninok 01-04-2011 10:39 PM

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Lmao Oakland will go right back to being piss poor.. Al just needs to give it up

SFREDSKIN 01-04-2011 10:43 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775252]Lmao Oakland will go right back to being piss poor.. Al just needs to give it up[/quote]

I disagree. Hue Jackson is credited for the turn around, if he didn't fire Cable and promote Jackson someone else would take Jackson away.

Perfect example here:

RT @Sprow_ESPN: How good was Hue? W/o dramatic personnel moves, Raiders went from 4,256 yds in '09 to 5,674 in '10. (Al gets a nod.)

SmootSmack 01-04-2011 10:46 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;775225]Why? B/c they are understaffed? B/c couldn't find talent if it walked up an smacked them in the head?

All of a sudden I have visions Mike Brown giving a tour of the facilities to a potential new coach, opening a closet door, and inside is some ancient guy with rolls of old 8mm film watching film clips from the 1986 Fiesta Bowl. Mike then says "and this is Barney, our scouting department."[/quote]

Smallest In the league. If I remember right, they have one scout for every five other teams have

SirClintonPortis 01-04-2011 11:08 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775253]I disagree. Hue Jackson is credited for the turn around, if he didn't fire Cable and promote Jackson someone else would take Jackson away.

Perfect example here:

RT @Sprow_ESPN: How good was Hue? W/o dramatic personnel moves, Raiders went from 4,256 yds in '09 to 5,674 in '10. (Al gets a nod.)[/quote]
Well, we could argue all day about whether it was more JaMarcus vs. Campbell/Gradkowski or that Run Dmac stopped running like a girl, but I'll give credit where it's due.

Jackson did fix up JC quite a bit. No, JC still isn't that good, but he played better than under the Zorn. He also utilized much of the talent at his disposal, like Ford, Reece, etc. He certainly earned his shot.

SmootSmack 01-04-2011 11:57 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775235]As expected Baalke gets the 49ers GM job:

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?entry_id=80285]Breaking: Baalke gets GM job : Niner Insider[/url][/quote]

So now the Rams, Seahawks, and Niners front offices are all officially run by former Redskins scouts

GMScud 01-05-2011 12:27 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;775259]So now the Rams, Seahawks, and Niners front offices are all officially run by former Redskins scouts[/quote]

Telling. 3/4 of the worst division in football are all run by former Redskins scouts. Fail. Hahaha.

Maybe next year a former Skins scout can GM a 6-10 team to a division title.

SirClintonPortis 01-05-2011 01:44 AM

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[quote=GMScud;775262]Telling. 3/4 of the worst division in football are all run by former Redskins scouts. Fail. Hahaha.

Maybe next year a former Skins scout can GM a 6-10 team to a division title.[/quote]

The Lambs seem to be digging themselves out of the grave though, although that maybe due to Spags and not the scouts.

sportscurmudgeon 01-05-2011 11:44 AM

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Al Davis just fired a coach who rallied a moribund team to finish 8-8 (6-0 in its division by the way).

Sound familiar...?

Now, if Al Davis goes and makes an offer to the Ol' Ball Coach, we will know that Danny Boy really is Al Davis' unacknowledged offspring.

skinsfaninok 01-05-2011 11:47 AM

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Speaking of Oakland, JC was on ESPN First Take this morning doing some Bush league contest with Joey Harrington, anyway Jay asked him about Cable and of course Jason did the status quo answer.. But what caught me is when Jay said "I'm sure your happy to finally have some stability" LMAO Wait Jason will have a NEW HC after just 1 year in Oakland and was benched 2-3 times this year.. Yea thats Stable

Ruhskins 01-05-2011 11:56 AM

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I wonder if Elway will be able to lure Harbaugh to Denver?

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5991230]John Elway back in saddle as the czar of Denver Broncos - ESPN[/url]

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2011 11:58 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;775367]I wonder if Elway will be able to lure Harbaugh to Denver?

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5991230]John Elway back in saddle as the czar of Denver Broncos - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I would much rather have Harbaugh go to Denver than SF. I hate the 49ers and their fans.

MTK 01-05-2011 12:09 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775361]Speaking of Oakland, JC was on ESPN First Take this morning doing some Bush league contest with Joey Harrington, anyway Jay asked him about Cable and of course Jason did the status quo answer.. But what caught me is when Jay said "I'm sure your happy to finally have some stability" LMAO Wait Jason will have a NEW HC after just 1 year in Oakland and was benched 2-3 times this year.. Yea thats Stable[/quote]

If they hire Hue Jackson he'll have some stability in that regard

tryfuhl 01-05-2011 01:54 PM

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[quote=mooby;774628]If you had said that from the start I don't think I would've even bothered replying lol. I doubt there's anybody here who disagrees with you on that one. He'll get work as an offensive coordinator though imo.[/quote]
It better be under an offensive minded HC then. His playcalling isn't up to par.

Ruhskins 01-05-2011 02:16 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775368]I would much rather have Harbaugh go to Denver than SF. I hate the 49ers and their fans.[/quote]

The Dolphins are courting Harbaugh as well according to ESPN.

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 02:19 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;775371]If they hire Hue Jackson he'll have some stability in that regard[/quote]

What if it's Brian Billick though....seriously though Hue will probably get it. But you never know

MTK 01-05-2011 02:20 PM

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Yeah with Davis you never know what the F he's thinking, heck he doesn't even know I bet

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2011 02:39 PM

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Per adam s.

# Quite the expected doubleheader today for 49ers: Hue Jackson, then Jim Harbaugh. Could be the two men that wind up as Bay-Area NFL HCs. less than 5 seconds ago via ÜberTwitter

# With assist to @mortreport, 49ers expected to meet today with Stanford HC Jim Harbaugh at undisclosed location away from team's facility.

MTK 01-05-2011 02:41 PM

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Harbaugh seems to be the frontrunner for the 9ers job

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2011 02:46 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;775427]Harbaugh seems to be the frontrunner for the 9ers job[/quote]

I'm sure he'll accept the job, why would he want to move especially with a new born baby. It pisses me off that the Redskins didn't go after him last year.

skinsfaninok 01-05-2011 02:48 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775426]Per adam s.

# Quite the expected doubleheader today for 49ers: Hue Jackson, then Jim Harbaugh. Could be the two men that wind up as Bay-Area NFL HCs. less than 5 seconds ago via ÜberTwitter

# With assist to @mortreport, 49ers expected to meet today with Stanford HC Jim Harbaugh at undisclosed location away from team's facility.[/quote]

If I'm him Id take Mich of SF, I know it's the NFL but he'd be a legend at UM.. Plus SF needs quite a bit to compete for a Title run again.

MTK 01-05-2011 02:48 PM

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Did anyone interview him last year?

skinsfaninok 01-05-2011 02:49 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775428]I'm sure he'll accept the job, why would he want to move especially with a new born baby. It pisses me off that the Redskins didn't go after him last year.[/quote]

Shanny or Harbaugh? I'd take Mike

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2011 02:51 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;775430]Did anyone interview him last year?[/quote]

I don't remember. If the skins would have made a generous offer I'm sure he would have accepted it.

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2011 02:52 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775431]Shanny or Harbaugh? I'd take Mike[/quote]

Not me.

skinsfaninok 01-05-2011 02:54 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775433]Not me.[/quote]


Your drinking the Kool-Aid my friend.. He hasnt done anything in the NFL yet.. People though Nick Saban would be a great coach also.

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 03:02 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775429]If I'm him Id take Mich of SF, I know it's the NFL but he'd be a legend at UM.. Plus SF needs quite a bit to compete for a Title run again.[/quote]

Sounds like he was close to the Michigan job but then decided he should ask for more. And ultimately Michigan said there's only so much we're willing to offer.

He wasn't interested in taking any NFL job last year anyway

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2011 03:17 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775434]Your drinking the Kool-Aid my friend.. He hasnt done anything in the NFL yet.. People though Nick Saban would be a great coach also.[/quote]

I'm not drinking no koolaid. I live in the SF Bay area and have been following him since he was hired at Stanford and have seen what he has accomplished. He comes from a solid family coaching background (father, brother, himself) 15 years NFL experience. He is the real deal, watch and weep, you'll be sad the Redskins didn't hire him.

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 03:25 PM

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I wish him the best, but college and NFL coaching are not the same

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2011 03:27 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;775445]I wish him the best, but college and NFL coaching are not the same[/quote]

How about Jimmy Johnson?

Why would Harbaugh be courted by SF, Denver and Miami?

SmootSmack 01-05-2011 03:33 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775446]How about Jimmy Johnson?[/quote]

How about Butch Davis? How about Bobby Petrino? How about Steve Spurrier? How about Lou Holtz? How about Nick Saban? How about Dennis Erickson?

Not saying he won't or can't be successful. Just saying it's not a lock

SFREDSKIN 01-05-2011 03:36 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;775449]How about Butch Davis? How about Bobby Petrino? How about Steve Spurrier? How about Lou Holtz? How about Nick Saban? How about Dennis Erickson?

Not saying he won't or can't be successful. Just saying it's not a lock[/quote]

I hope you are right, I just don't want SF to be like the 80's again. I hate the 49ers and their fans, bunch of arrogant A-holes!

skinsfaninok 01-05-2011 04:06 PM

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Nothing against Jim harbaugh but he won't bring a dynasty to sf unless he gets a QB like manning. Those days in today's NFL are over except NE an that's just because their unreal.. I see what your saying about his family background etc.. But like I said earlier Hes never been a HC in the NFL, the players are boss in the league it's not college kids anymore. Does that mean you can't be successful?? Heck no but it makes it harder.


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