Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

This is a lot like the Erasmus James trade.

I thought that was a good value trade, and I think the same of this one.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;690539]What is that worth on the draft chart? A free #1 pick jersey?[/quote]

Four Taco Bell Tortadas...or two Wendy's Spicy Chicken sandwiches. Depends on whether or not they agree to a new CBA

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;690496]That would be a steal, how much is left on his contract, we've got to be sending AH to them after the draft. DON'T TRADE AH, DON'T TRADE AH DON'T TRADE AH.[/quote]Signals that STL will draft Suh or McCoy. And we may land Bradford afterall, unless some other team wants him really, really bad. Finally a FO that isn't keen on being on the short end of a deal.

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lol I knew that I needed to check Skins news before heading out to cut the lawn.. just got back from DC and was like.. I bet something has happened

we'll probably be more likely to recover that 5th now, even if we give up greater value for it

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[quote=Buster;690540]This trade is making less and less sense, but I like it more and more.[/quote]

no crap, he must have really rubbed some people the wrong way, regardless of what he has done on the feild so far and the injury, he was the first round pick three years ago, and they traded him to us like he is a washed up vet. teams don't just give away their first round draft picks this soon, but i'll take whatever else they want to give us too

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[quote=diehard;690545]Signals that STL will draft Suh or McCoy. And we may land Bradford afterall, unless some other team wants him really, really bad. Finally a FO that isn't keen on being on the short end of a deal.[/quote]

I'm not sure how this trade ties at all to the Rams taking Suh or McCoy now

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;690535]There's more. We also swapped 7th rounders. So we move up 3 spots[/quote]

That and 100 tickets will get you a magic kit at Chuck E. Cheese!

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;690548]I'm not sure how this trade ties at all to the Rams taking Suh or McCoy now[/quote]

Yeah they obviously don't feel like they are creating a hole trading him.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=SmootSmack;690535]There's more. We also swapped 7th rounders. So we move up 3 spots[/quote]

Oh Woo-Hoo

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[quote=SmootSmack;690548]I'm not sure how this trade ties at all to the Rams taking Suh or McCoy now[/quote]


This

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/107361/index.html?eref=sihp]Ndamukong Suh says he could still be No. 1 pick - Dan Patrick.com[/url]

And they have not signed Bradford


Just for giggles lets say this is true do the skins take Bradford at 4?

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The 3-4 defense better work or it will be a major set back. Our 4-3 defense was pretty good. It just needed a more aggressive play caller who knows what he is doing and a leader in the secondary.
This change to 3-4 defense has created additional needs on a team that has so many other needs to begin with. Using one of our few remaining picks on DL which was not a real big need when the season ended. I continue to question the logic of this move to 3-4. We still need more LB's as well as Offensive linemen and young RB's.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

Redskins acquired DT Adam Carriker from the Rams for an exchange of fifth-round picks.

The Rams will send over the fifth-rounder they acquired from Philly in return for the Redskins' fifth rounder (the teams also swap seventh-rounders).

WE DIDNT LOSE A 5th. IT WAS A SWAP OF 5TH ROUND PICKS & 7th ROUNDERS

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=ChickenMonkey;690555]Redskins acquired DT Adam Carriker from the Rams for an exchange of fifth-round picks.

The Rams will send over the fifth-rounder they acquired from Philly in return for the Redskins' fifth rounder (the teams also swap seventh-rounders).

WE DIDNT LOSE A 5th. IT WAS A SWAP OF 5TH ROUND PICKS & 7th ROUNDERS[/quote]


did you bother to read the last 7 pages of posts?

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=Defensewins;690554]The 3-4 defense better work or it will be a major set back. Our 4-3 defense was pretty good. It just needed a more aggressive play caller who knows what he is doing and a leader in the secondary.
This change to 3-4 defense has created additional needs on a team that has so many other needs to begin with. Using one of our few remaining picks on DL which was not a real big need when the season ended. I continue to question the logic of this move to 3-4. We still need more LB's as well as Offensive linemen and young RB's.[/quote]


I think our defense was only good last year becasue basically teams knew if they threw 17 or more points they would win. No need to get tricky on offense when you know the opposing team can't score worth a damn.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=GTripp0012;690541]This is a lot like the Erasmus James trade.

I thought that was a good value trade, and I think the same of this one.[/quote]

That's a good point. It's a lot like that trade. Hopefully this one turns out better. Not sure if we had any coaching staff ties to James but what may bode well this time is that Haslet actually likes Carriker.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=ChickenMonkey;690555]Redskins acquired DT Adam Carriker from the Rams for an exchange of fifth-round picks.

The Rams will send over the fifth-rounder they acquired from Philly in return for the Redskins' fifth rounder (the teams also swap seventh-rounders).

WE DIDNT LOSE A 5th. IT WAS A SWAP OF 5TH ROUND PICKS & 7th ROUNDERS[/quote]

:goodjob: [B]FAIL[/B]

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=diehard;690545]Signals that STL will draft Suh or McCoy. And we may land Bradford afterall, unless some other team wants him really, really bad. Finally a FO that isn't keen on being on the short end of a deal.[/quote]

Yes, since the Rams really have faith in AJ Feeley as their QB. :doh:

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;690561]Yes, since the Rams really have faith in AJ Feeley as their QB. :doh:[/quote]


Regardless if they draft Bradford or not, Feeley most likely will be the opening day starter.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

I like the trade. Maybe its because I like Carriker coming out of college, and I think he can be a solid DE in the 3-4. Though, my enthusiasm is tempered abit by that Erasmus James analogy, cause I also liked him coming out of college! :confused-

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[quote=mredskins;690563]Regardless if they draft Bradford or not, Feeley most likely will be the opening day starter.[/quote]I don't see it.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

I have a feeling that Campbell will be moved to St. Louis on draft day.

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For a 5th rounder? GFTO!!! I'm sure Haslett is one happy man.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=Ruhskins;690561]Yes, since the Rams really have faith in AJ Feeley as their QB. :doh:[/quote]

feeley is the rams starting qb as of now? :laughing2 i am glad i'm not a rams fan

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=mredskins;690563]Regardless if they draft Bradford or not, Feeley most likely will be the opening day starter.[/quote]

That may be true, but he's not going to be their long term QB. As some people have said, the only way Bradford doesn't go to the Rams is if someone offers a boat-load of picks to the Rams, and we are is no position to do that.

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[quote=Ruhskins;690573]That may be true, but he's not going to be their long term QB. As some people have said, the only way Bradford doesn't go to the Rams is if someone offers a boat-load of picks to the Rams, and we are is no position to do that.[/quote]


I was all about Bradford before McNabb now it would be a waste of a pick as it is obvious the MS and company have a win now attitude.

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

[quote=mredskins;690581]I was all about Bradford before McNabb now it would be a waste of a pick as it is obvious the MS and company have a win now attitude.[/quote]

Still, the Bradford Boners are going to come up with ridiculous stuff between now and then draft...until we make our move. I'm still waiting for the "We can still get Bradford" thread after the Rams pick him up.

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The roster is jacked up right now, especially the front seven.

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Hell yeah!!!! I wanted this guy back in 2007. Hard worker that won't be under pressure to put up huge sack numbers in our 3-4.

[quote=SmootSmack;690461]There's a plan...but it takes two to tango...and right now few teams are willing to dance with us[/quote]

Good. I know it's in vogue right now to try and trade down, but considering the possibility that we're going to see 4 tackles go in the top 10 I don't want to trade down. As I've said before I doubt we can find two players equal to who we would get at 4.

So right now the Redskins draft looks like this:

1st - Okung or Williams
2nd - McNabb
3rd - Jarmon
4th - QB Prospect
5th - Adam Cariker
7th - Your guess is as good as mine.

Most people however see this

1st - Okung or Williams
4th - QB Prospect
7th - Your guess is as good as mine.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;690590]Hell yeah!!!! I wanted this guy back in 2007. Hard worker that won't be under pressure to put up huge sack numbers in our 3-4.



Good. I know it's in vogue right now to try and trade down, but considering the possibility that we're going to see 4 tackles go in the top 10 I don't want to trade down. As I've said before I doubt we can find two players equal to who we would get at 4.

So right now the Redskins draft looks like this:

1st - Okung or Williams
2nd - McNabb
3rd - Jarmon
4th - QB Prospect
5th - Adam Cariker
7th - Your guess is as good as mine.

Most people however see this

1st - Okung or Williams
4th - QB Prospect
7th - Your guess is as good as mine.[/quote]

Both are wrong we still have a 5th

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[quote=diehard;690587]The roster is jacked up right now, especially the front seven.[/quote]

"Jacked up" in a good or a bad way?

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[quote=RedskinMike;690601]Both are wrong we still have a 5th[/quote]

Ok then...

1st - Okung or Williams
2nd - McNabb
3rd - Jarmon
4th - QB Prospect a.k.a. Colt Brennan's replacement
5th - Adam Cariker
5th - A LB?
7th - The next Chris Horton

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I just hung up with Vinnie. He tells me this deal will never fly. We'll need to toss in a first and third this year and a contingent 2nd for the next three years if he shows to voluntary mini-camps.
Oh yeah....and redo his contract with say.......50m or so guaranteed.......VINNIE......

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;690550]That and 100 tickets will get you a magic kit at Chuck E. Cheese![/quote]


My kids prefer the cotton candy for 150! ;-)

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[quote=Ruhskins;690605]Ok then...

1st - Okung or Williams
2nd - McNabb
3rd - Jarmon
4th - QB Prospect a.k.a. Colt Brennan's replacement
5th - Adam Cariker
5th - A LB?
7th - The next Chris Horton[/quote]

Yeah, I would prefer the 4th round pick to be another lineman but I have the feeling that they'll use it on a QB. I guess I was confused because the Rams have a better draft position and swapping both 5th and 7th round picks seemed like we were being paid to move up in exchange for taking on Carikers contract.

[url=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/rounds/_/round/5/year/2010]2010 NFL Draft Results and Analysis: Round 5 - ESPN[/url]

Just to clarify so people don't end up looking foolish like I just did the pick from the Rams is the 32nd pick in the 5th round that's been passed around more then a street walker:
[quote]from St. Louis through New Orleans and Philadelphia[/quote]

Re: Redskins Send 5th Rounder to Rams for Carriker and a 5th (Swap 7ths)
 

The best part about this deal is that Haslett coached Carriker and believes he has some talent. Otherwise they wouldn't have done the deal.

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[QUOTE]He has two years remaining on his rookie contract; he is due $1.07 million this season, $1.42 million in '11.
[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/rams-trade-adam-carriker-to-re.html]Redskins Insider - Rams trade Adam Carriker to Redskins[/url][/QUOTE]

He doesn't even have a big contract to absorb. I just don't get why the Rams just gave him away. Guess they thought they owed Haslett something?

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[quote=ethat001;690614]He doesn't even have a big contract to absorb. I just don't get why the Rams just gave him away. Guess they thought they owed Haslett something?[/quote]

Combination of not wanting him and getting a chance to move up in the 5th round?

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[quote=ethat001;690614]He doesn't even have a big contract to absorb. I just don't get why the Rams just gave him away. Guess they thought they owed Haslett something?[/quote]

I don't see how they owe Haslett a thing. He should be happy he has a job this yr and if anything he should feel he owes Shanahan something.

But to your point.... Haslett was handed the 4th ranked defense. He has a hell of a lot of toys one defense. If anyone is owed anything it's the OL coach....and maybe the WR coach....T.O. lol. JK.

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[quote=dirtbag359;690590]hell yeah!!!! I wanted this guy back in 2007. Hard worker that won't be under pressure to put up huge sack numbers in our 3-4.



Good. I know it's in vogue right now to try and trade down, but considering the possibility that we're going to see 4 tackles go in the top 10 i don't want to trade down. As i've said before i doubt we can find two players equal to who we would get at 4.

So right now the redskins draft looks like this:

1st - okung or williams
2nd - mcnabb
3rd - jarmon
4th - qb prospect
5th - adam cariker
7th - your guess is as good as mine.

Most people however see this

1st - okung or williams
4th - qb prospect
7th - your guess is as good as mine.[/quote]



fantasy football gone wild!!!!

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he means the Rams must have thought they owed him something