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Good Article:
[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/04/01/offseason/index.html]Best, worst moves, top stories, hot trends of 2010 NFL offseason - Don Banks - SI.com[/url]

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Sproles signs tender with Chargers:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8174da46&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Sproles signs $7.283M tender with Chargers, who need RB depth[/url]

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I think we're interested in Shipley because I read somewhere that Kyle Shanahan was at Texas's Pro day and had good things to say about Shipley. It would make since though, since we need a new Randle El type receiver/returner. This guys like another form of wes welker.

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I'm sure that Kyle would be there either way and praise anyone from his alma mater. Not to say that we're not interested though, like you said he could be a good fit in the slot if we don't use Moss there or want something a little more long term.

Who knows who will be gone before/during the draft or who we might even plan to trade afterwards, so I wouldn't be TOO surprised if we went after a mid-round receiver.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;681665]I think we're interested in Shipley because I read somewhere that Kyle Shanahan was at Texas's Pro day and had good things to say about Shipley. It would make since though, since we need a new Randle El type receiver/returner. This guys like another form of wes welker.[/quote]

They could be thinking, "Why not bring in our targeted future QB's favorite target and best friend".

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[quote=Son Of Man;681763]They could be thinking, "Why not bring in our targeted future QB's favorite target and best friend".[/quote]

Would actually make a lot of sense.

Slide Santana over to the #2, Thomas gets one season to prove he was worth his pick at the #1, and Shipley at the #3 spot. With Cooley and Davis, That looks like a damn decent receiving bunch for a young QB.

So, now we just have to keep him off his ass.............Enter Okung and Asamoah.


Seriously though, What situation would be better for mcCoy. Having his friend to back him up in the pros, get over the learning humps together and be there to inspire each other and offer encouragement. I think that would be a great move for Us, or for whoever drafts mcCoy. Shipleys hands are frickin sponges.

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What round is Shipley currently being projected @?

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;681855]What round is Shipley currently being projected @?[/quote]
3rd round

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[quote=tryfuhl;681290]Jay Feely to the Cards

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5049805"]Former New York Jets kicker Jay Feely to sign with Arizona Cardinals - ESPN New York[/URL][/quote]

And Rackers is set to visit the Jets this coming up week :laughing2

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[quote=tryfuhl;681858]3rd round[/quote]

He's a player I wouldn't mind putting together a package of something like our 4th round pick this year and 3rd next year to move back up into the 3rd round to grab. He could easily fill the role of a young explosive receiver we need for 3rd down as well as kick returns.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;681896]He's a player I wouldn't mind putting together a package of something like our 4th round pick this year and 3rd next year to move back up into the 3rd round to grab. He could easily fill the role of a young explosive receiver we need for 3rd down as well as kick returns.[/quote]

For a fourth or fifth reciever? He's a nice to have who's stock will die down a lot once he becomes a player.

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I think if we go the Colt route, his stock would do nuthing but rise with his best friend looking for hi down the field..........and it could open the door to move Kelly or moss for another pick.

Would anyone here move Kelly for a 4th rounder, or moss for a 3rd?

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IDK, I dont want anymore sit and wait rookie WRs. If we go for a WR, go for one who is already some what established.

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[QUOTE]I think if we go the Colt route, his stock would do nuthing but rise with his best friend looking for hi down the field..........and it could open the door to move Kelly or moss for another pick.



Would anyone here move Kelly for a 4th rounder, or moss for a 3rd?[/QUOTE]
Not me.

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[quote=Mechanix544;681940]I think if we go the Colt route, his stock would do nuthing but rise with his best friend looking for hi down the field..........and it could open the door to move Kelly or moss for another pick.

Would anyone here move Kelly for a 4th rounder, or moss for a 3rd?[/quote]

Malcom still has potential, it's too early to ship him off.

Moss maybe, but we would need to then pick up another WR which would probably include trading away picks (Marshall) or drafting one and i don't think any receiver past the 3rd round will produce like Santana will. and no, we don't want TO

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I would move Moss for a third without a second thought, just wish someone was actually offering a third.

I don't think I'd trade Kelly for a fourth, but I might try to cash in on Thomas while his value is relatively acceptable. Still, if all I'm going to get is a fourth round pick, I'd rather hold on to Kelly/Thomas and take the 1/50 chance that one of them turns into a pro bowl performer in 2010.

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Did anyone post this before? I just found it on HailRedskins.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/31/todd-mcshay-backlash-builds/]Todd McShay backlash builds | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

[quote]Once upon a time, Mel Kiper was the primary target of NFL scouts; Kiper has been supplanted by his on-air protege/rival at ESPN, Todd McShay. As McShay's profile increases, and as he takes on the likes of quarterback Jimmy Clausen for reasons that many league insiders believe have no merit, McShay becomes a magnet for criticism. [/quote]

One of the things I don't like though about the arrogance of some NFL scouts is the fact that their job is still in an exact science where front office members frequently get fired for making bad picks and signings. They might know more then the TV scouts but it's not like they're never wrong. You know that wonderful all inclusive "for a reason, but don't really want to speculate" mentality.

At the same time one thing I notice about Scouts Inc is that very frequently you'll see a lot of guys with grades of 30 and 20 get drafted in like the 5th or 6th round. So it's not to far fetched to think that Scouts Inc is a little off rhythm with what NFL Scouts are seeing.

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Well, now I know his background. Guys a lot older then I thought:
[url=http://www.espnmediazone.com/press_kits/mnf/bios/ToddMcShay.htm]Todd McShay[/url]
[quote]Prior to joining ESPN, McShay worked full-time for “The War Room,” (1999-2006) a start-up scouting publication created by former NFL scout Gary Horton. It soon became a go-to source of information for 16 NFL scouting departments and became a crosscheck for CBS and The Sporting News. ESPN purchased the business in 2006 and changed the name to Scouts Inc.

McShay interned for Horton in the summer of 1998, after getting his first taste of college scouting and recruitment when he “cut film” for the University of Richmond coaching staff.

Before becoming one of the nation’s top NFL Draft analysts, McShay was the quarterback for the Swampscott (Mass.) High School football team (1991-94), and he was a backup quarterback for the University of Richmond (1995-97) before sustaining a back injury that ended his college career.
[/quote]

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[quote=Dirtbag359;681937]For a fourth or fifth reciever? He's a nice to have who's stock will die down a lot once he becomes a player.[/quote]

I think he could be our 3rd wr this year and within the next 2-3 have thomas move into the #1 spot and shipley would become our #2 wr. He had an insanely productive college career once put into the starting lineup and we haven't seen anything out of Kelly to warrant him being a lock to be 3rd on the depth chart. Shipley has a quick burst off the line, runs very clean routes, does a great job adjusting his body to catch passes that are a bit off target, and has no problem going across the middle. And on the finacial side, as a possible 3rd round pick he would come into the league under a very reasonable contract given his possible production since in college he scored a touchdown once every 7.5 times he caught the ball.

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McNabb a Redskin. Compensation unknown. ESPN... will look for link.

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[quote=Kindoy;681988]McNabb a Redskin. Compensation unknown. ESPN... will look for link.[/quote]

You really should read all the thread headlines.

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[quote=Kindoy;681988]McNabb a Redskin. Compensation unknown. ESPN... will look for link.[/quote]

Thanks. Talking about it in a separate thread

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[quote=Dirtbag359;681950]Well, now I know his background. Guys a lot older then I thought:
[URL="http://www.espnmediazone.com/press_kits/mnf/bios/ToddMcShay.htm"]Todd McShay[/URL][/quote]
that only makes him 35ish

how old did you think he was? 25?

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[quote=Ruhskins;682174]You really should read all the thread headlines.[/quote]
to be fair he only posted it within the minute that the other thread was posted

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[quote=tryfuhl;682490]to be fair he only posted it within the minute that the other thread was posted[/quote]

Yeah I saw that. I guess I should read time stamps on posts.

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[quote=tryfuhl;682487]that only makes him 35ish

how old did you think he was? 25?[/quote]

Yeah, that way we could go out and drink beers and cruise for chicks. Now that I know that he's 35 with a family we'll have to do it on the quiet which isn't nearly as much fun. Mel on the other hand...that guy knows how to party. Doesn't matter how old he is.

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[quote=tryfuhl;681892]And Rackers is set to visit the Jets this coming up week :laughing2[/quote]

Come here, Rackers!

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[quote=Buster;683045]Come here, Rackers![/quote]

Rackers is a complete head case. He was awesome that one year, since then it seems to me like he misses most of the big kicks. He handed us a game in '07.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;683052]Rackers is a complete head case. He was awesome that one year, since then it seems to me like he misses most of the big kicks. He handed us a game in '07.[/quote]

Sounds like an upgrade over what we've had for the last decade at kicker.

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Seattle trades Rob Sims to Detroit

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[quote=SmootSmack;683202]Seattle trades Rob Sims to Detroit[/quote]

Possible sign that they are def going with Suh or McCoy?

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[quote=Ruhskins;683215]Possible sign that they are def going with Suh or McCoy?[/quote]

Hopefully...Okung looks like he'll be there for us. If not, we need to get multiple high picks for that #4 spot.

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[quote=Ruhskins;683215]Possible sign that they are def going with Suh or McCoy?[/quote]

Probably more likely to keep Backus at LT now. Not for sure though

And I still think Trent Williams has the slight edge over Okung for us even if both are available.

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[quote=SmootSmack;683225]Probably more likely to keep Backus at LT now. Not for sure though

And I still think Trent Williams has the slight edge over Okung for us even if both are available.[/quote]

Have we talked to Williams at all? Just curious.

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I think he's supposed to come in for a visit this week, or early next.

Schefter says the Lions traded a 5th rounder for Sims

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[quote=SmootSmack;683239]I think he's supposed to come in for a visit this week, or early next.

Schefter says the Lions traded a 5th rounder for Sims[/quote]

How old is Sims? If he is 32 or below, I think that is a great pickup for them.....

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[quote=Mechanix544;683250]How old is Sims? If he is 32 or below, I think that is a great pickup for them.....[/quote]

He's like 26 or 27 I think

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[quote=SmootSmack;683239]I think he's supposed to come in for a visit this week, or early next.

Schefter says the Lions traded a 5th rounder for Sims[/quote]

Does that mean they're now poised to grab Suh/McCoy instead of OKUNGGGG!!!!!!?

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Not really the thread for this but I found this interesting. NFL.com's top players in the draft.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-grade]National Football League: NFL Draft Tracker 2010[/url]

You'll have to look down a ways to find Bradford and Okung. Both have dropped ALOT in the past week. Clausen isnt even in the top 25. [I]Take that![/I], SS33!

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[quote=Dirtbag359;683286]Does that mean they're now poised to grab Suh/McCoy instead of OKUNGGGG!!!!!!?[/quote]

Sure seems that way