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[quote=SmootSmack;633474]News is no longer the 30 minute evening broadcast with Peter Jennings (RIP). It's 24 hours across thousands of tv channels, radio stations, web sites, magazines, and newspapers. That's one reason why you have more and more stories like this. Besides, not all news needs to be hard hitting, Pulitzer prize winning journalism.[/quote]

And I think this is the chief reason why newspapars in print is a dying industry. By the time the paperboy hits your doorstep with the newspaper the vast majority of that news is either old to you or is of no interest. Nowadays we consume our news in specific chunks. If I want football, I go to NFL.com or NFL network. If I want Skins news I don't go to either of those, I go to [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net"]www.thewarpath.net[/URL].

It's a really sad that we have to sift through all the BS and entertainment to actually get to a few minutes of actual information. Incidently, I believe that's why blogs have grown so rapidly and carved out a niche in the world of media.

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[quote=Hog1;633495]Can you think of a story of substance (of late) that has and will command the spotlight the way this has?[/quote]

Define "substance"

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how about the state dinner party crashers there's a story of substance

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[quote=mlmdub130;633522]how about the state dinner party crashers there's a story of substance[/quote]

but they haven't been talking about it a lot. I've heard about it on TV... Maybe for 2 days, with a few allusions to it here and there since the story first broke but other than that, nothing.

other than that I hear about the troop increase a lot lately.

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[quote=Mattyk72;633480]I agree, either do it the right away and get a divorce, or don't get married in the first place. If you want to bang skanks go ahead, but why get married and have kids??[/quote]

Agreed fully. I've been beating that drum in my conversations about this with friends/family in recent days. If you want to be promiscuous, be my guest. But why be so damn fake? He and Elin haven't been married that long, and he's been fooling around for at least 3 years, probably more. Why enter into a marriage, exchange vows, and have children knowing full well you're going to be unfaithful?

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[quote=mlmdub130;633459]while jon and kate getting a divorce shoudln't get any air time i fell like this story is on a whole other level. this isn't just some random sports figure, this guy is an icon and the biggest name in sports right now hands down. and the reason his name is so big is because of the image he presents himself in, now it appears that this image is false and he has basically lied to the whole world, which upsets and offends a lot of people.[/quote]

See I look at Jon & Kate situation more worthy of news because they became famous by being married and having 8 kids. Now what they are famous for is what is falling apart where TW is famous for his golf. TW did not lie to us because I cannot remember him ever saying or being asked if he was having an affair. He lied to his wife and family.

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[quote=GMScud;633531]Agreed fully. I've been beating that drum in my conversations about this with friends/family in recent days. If you want to be promiscuous, be my guest. But why be so damn fake? He and Elin haven't been married that long, and he's been fooling around for at least 3 years, probably more. Why enter into a marriage, exchange vows, and have children knowing full well you're going to be unfaithful?[/quote]

If those number are right he was cheating on his wife before they even had children and that makes it even worse.

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[quote=firstdown;633540]See I look at Jon & Kate situation more worthy of news because they became famous by being married and having 8 kids. Now what they are famous for is what is falling apart where TW is famous for his golf. TW did not lie to us because I cannot remember him ever saying or being asked if he was having an affair. He lied to his wife and family.[/quote]

He's lying to us by insisting the car accident and his facial lacerations have nothing to do with domestic violence. I mean, when you hear a car accident, do you grab a golf club? His wife has been through enough, so I'm glad she doesn't have to deal with any domestic violence charges, but we all know what happened.

Jesper Parnevick had a classic line- "...hope she uses the driver next time instead of the 3-iron." LOL.

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You know a golfer is going to try to get in a few holes whenever he can. :)

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[quote=GMScud;633542]He's lying to us by insisting the car accident and his facial lacerations have nothing to do with domestic violence. I mean, when you hear a car accident, do you grab a golf club? His wife has been through enough, so I'm glad she doesn't have to deal with any domestic violence charges, but we all know what happened.

Jesper Parnevick had a classic line- "...hope she uses the driver next time instead of the 3-iron." LOL.[/quote]

yeah apparently after the cops did the investigation they saw a few different places his suv hit before hitting the fire hydrant. there was a map of the crash site that the cops had outlined and it made it on one of the gossip sites. she was swinging that club like john daly. lol. plus she changed her story. the cops are sweeping this under rug but no question if this was the other way around and he was chasing her his ass would be behind bars.

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[quote=GMScud;633531]Agreed fully. I've been beating that drum in my conversations about this with friends/family in recent days. If you want to be promiscuous, be my guest. But why be so damn fake? He and Elin haven't been married that long, and he's been fooling around for at least 3 years, probably more. Why enter into a marriage, exchange vows, and have children knowing full well you're going to be unfaithful?[/quote]

Why do you say Tiger is being fake? And who are we to say that he didn't exchange vows from the bottom of his heart. I find that sort of absurd.

True, if you WANT to be promiscuous, don't get married. Agreed. But isn't it entirely possible that Tiger had no intentions to cheat on his wife? Isn't it possible that he still loves her? I just don't like the judgement being hurled at Woods like he's the scum of the earth all of a sudden. Yes, it's a horrible thing to be unfaithful to your spouse - it really is. But it's amazing to me how he's fallen from grace in the eyes of so many because of infidelity and a moral weakness.

I am in no way trying to demean or undermine the instition of marriage by my reasoning, because I'm not. I just don't appreciate how he's being demonized and judged - especially when we don't live in Tiger Woods' shoes.

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[quote=12thMan;633553]Why do you say Tiger is being fake? And who are we to say that he didn't exchange vows from the bottom of his heart. I find that sort of absurd.

True, if you WANT to be promiscuous, don't get married. Agreed. But isn't it entirely possible that Tiger had no intentions to cheat on his wife? Isn't it possible that he still loves her? I just don't like the judgement being hurled at Woods like he's the scum of the earth all of a sudden. Yes, it's a horrible thing to be unfaithful to your spouse - it really is. But it's amazing to me how he's fallen from grace in the eyes of so many because of infidelity and a moral weakness.

I am in no way trying to demean or undermine the instition of marriage by my reasoning, because I'm not. I just don't appreciate how he's being demonized and judged - especially when we don't live in Tiger Woods' shoes.[/quote]

Well, I'm operating under the assumption that he's been promiscuous for some time. I find it very hard to believe that he married a gorgeous Swedish model and shortly after simply decided to start fooling around. My hunch is that he's been this way for a long time. Maybe I'm wrong.

I don't think Tiger Woods is a bad human being. His charities have been fantastic, and he's done a ton of good on and off the golf course. But he has his demons (a wandering eye to say the least) clearly.

I'm not trying to demonize the man, but come on 12th. You don't like the way he's being judged? The most famous athlete possibly of all time has just been nailed for ongoing, premeditated infidelity and lies. You really think he should be above reproach? I certainly haven't heard him called the scum of the earth, but this is cause (and rightfully so) for his character to be questioned.

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[quote=GMScud;633558]Well, I'm operating under the assumption that he's been promiscuous for some time. I find it very hard to believe that he married a gorgeous Swedish model and shortly after simply decided to start fooling around. My hunch is that he's been this way for a long time. Maybe I'm wrong.

I don't think Tiger Woods is a bad human being. His charities have been fantastic, and he's done a ton of good on and off the golf course. But he has his demons (a wandering eye to say the least) clearly.

I'm not trying to demonize the man, but come on 12th. You don't like the way he's being judged? The most famous athlete possibly of all time has just been nailed for ongoing, premeditated infidelity and lies. You really think he should be above reproach? I certainly haven't heard him called the scum of the earth, but this is cause (and rightfully so) for his character to be questioned.[/quote]

No, I don't think he's above reproach but by the same token I don't like the open season on Tiger Woods either. I hate it. In that regard I would react the same way if it was one of my buddies. Yeah, you fucked up really bad dude, but you're still my boy. And as well as intentioned as some here sound about being faithful as they should, all I'm saying is you don't know what you're capable of until you're in that situation over and over and over again. You don't know until you know, man. That's all I'm saying.

I can sit here until I'm blue in the face and declare every romantic platitude and make every vow to my wife in the world and still fail one day. I don't know what it's like to be rich, powerful, have influence and perhaps lonely. I don't mean to overanalyze this, but it's mighty convenient to throw granades from the sideline and tell the dude in the heat of the moment, don't eff this up.

I'm done with this one.

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[quote=12thMan;633563]No, I don't think he's above reproach but by the same token I don't like the open season on Tiger Woods either. I hate it. In that regard I would react the same way if it was one of my buddies. Yeah, you fucked up really bad dude, but you're still my boy. And as well as intentioned as some here sound about being faithful as they should, all I'm saying is you don't know what you're capable of until you're in that situation over and over and over again. You don't know until you know, man. That's all I'm saying.

I can sit here until I'm blue in the face and declare every romantic platitude and make every vow to my wife in the world and still fail one day. I don't know what it's like to be rich, powerful, have influence and perhaps lonely. I don't mean to overanalyze this, but it's mighty convenient to throw granades from the sideline and [B]tell the dude in the heat of the moment, don't eff this up. [/B]

I'm done with this one.[/quote]

Well, there really wasn't a heat of the moment. An ongoing affair and repeated lies is premeditated. It's not like he slipped once. That at least could be written off as a temporary lapse in judgement.

Anyway, I agree that the whole situation sucks, and it's a shame that privacy doesn't really exist any more.

I've always been a huge Tiger Woods fan. I wish him and his family nothing but the best moving forward. I hope they make it.

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I think it's pretty obvious he's been cheating for quite a while. Sorry I really don't feel sorry for him. All this while his wife was prego no less. That makes it pretty easy for me to call him a scumbag.

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How many of you out there have friends that have cheated on their wives??? Cause just about all of my married friends have done something at some point. It's just a part of life. People get sick of one another. Not saying it's right cause it's not but it's just how it is. We see it over and over and over again with high profile people as well as the eveyday working man/women.

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[quote=Mattyk72;633578]I think it's pretty obvious he's been cheating for quite a while. Sorry I really don't feel sorry for him. All this while his wife was prego no less. That makes it pretty easy for me to call him a scumbag.[/quote]

agree 100%

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[quote=skinsfan69;633580]How many of you out there have friends that have cheated on their wives??? [B]Cause just about all of my married friends have done something at some point. It's just a part of life. People get sick of one another. Not saying it's right cause it's not but it's just how it is[/B]. We see it over and over and over again with high profile people as well as the eveyday working man/women.[/quote]

the biggest part of this disscusion is saying if you do not intend to stay faithful why get married. being a child of divorced parents with one of the parents cheating on the other i can tell you this isn't "just a part of life". and with him being in the public eye eventually one day his kids will hear about this.

if you don't intend to stay faithful then why get married. i recently got engaged because i know i want this one person for the rest of my life and i know i will not cheat on her. you can say people grow apart and "get sick of one another" but when that happens you act like an adult and tell the person. you don't go behind their back banging trashy reality stars.

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[quote=SmootSmack;633515]Define "substance"[/quote]
Things that either are now having an impact on our lives, society in general, the world..........or will:
Like....N. Korea and the nuclear armament
The economy/unemployment
Global warming or the lack thereof
Health care
Global over-population
etc

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[quote=Hog1;633628]Things that either are now having an impact on our lives, society in general, the world..........or will:
Like....N. Korea and the nuclear armament
The economy/unemployment
Global warming or the lack thereof
Health care
Global over-population
etc[/quote]

Well I feel like those are continuous stories that have an underlying relevance at all times. Tiger's affairs are big news right now but it will fade away in a few days

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Tiger affairs are only important to a society circling the drain to moral bankruptcy. When was the last time you saw this type of resource devoted to generating something positive? Why not? Because we don't give a sh..
I do not blame the media. If it were not of....Paramount importance to us, they would have no market to peddle it?

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[quote=12thMan;633563]No, I don't think he's above reproach but by the same token I don't like the open season on Tiger Woods either. I hate it. In that regard I would react the same way if it was one of my buddies. Yeah, you fucked up really bad dude, but you're still my boy. And as well as intentioned as some here sound about being faithful as they should, [SIZE=4]all I'm saying is you don't know what you're capable of until you're in that situation over and over and over again. You don't know until you know,[/SIZE] man. That's all I'm saying.

I can sit here until I'm blue in the face and declare every romantic platitude and make every vow to my wife in the world and still fail one day. I don't know what it's like to be rich, powerful, have influence and perhaps lonely. I don't mean to overanalyze this, but it's mighty convenient to throw granades from the sideline and tell the dude in the heat of the moment, don't eff this up.

I'm done with this one.[/quote]
I know.

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[quote=skinsfan69;633580]How many of you out there have friends that have cheated on their wives??? Cause just about all of my married friends have done something at some point. It's just a part of life. People get sick of one another. Not saying it's right cause it's not but it's just how it is. We see it over and over and over again with high profile people as well as the eveyday working man/women.[/quote]

As far as I know none of my friends have cheated on their wives and if they did they where smart enough to do it in private. The only thing I can think of is one of my friends kissed a girl and felt like crap for days. Heck I thought he was even going to tell his wife.

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I don't have any cheating friends either.

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I don't think TW will be hanging out with Parnevik anytime soon and here is some of his comments.

"Maybe not just do it, like Nike says," Parnevik said Wednesday after finishing first-round play at the PGA Tour's final-stage of qualifying being held at Bear Lakes Country Club.


They introduced the pair, something Parnevik now sounds like he regrets.

"I would be especially sad about it since I'm kind of -- I feel really sorry for Elin -- since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him," Parnevik said. "We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of the 3-iron."

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Check this out. it made my evening.

[url=http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/12/03/only-a-matter-of-time-tiger-voicemail-slow-jam-remix/]Only a Matter of Time: Tiger Voicemail Slow Jam Remix -- Back Porch FanHouse[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;633580]How many of you out there have friends that have cheated on their wives??? Cause just about all of my married friends have done something at some point. It's just a part of life. People get sick of one another. Not saying it's right cause it's not but it's just how it is. We see it over and over and over again with high profile people as well as the eveyday working man/women.[/quote]

That's a shame. Not all of my closest friends are married, but a few of them are. They have never cheated on their wives. To say "it's just a part of life" is BS.

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[quote=GMScud;633717]That's a shame. Not all of my closest friends are married, but a few of them are. They have never cheated on their wives. To say "it's just a part of life" is BS.[/quote]

i'm glad i'm not on my own here

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[quote=mlmdub130;633720]i'm glad i'm not on my own here[/quote]

I'm engaged as well. We're getting married in June. My fiancee is a smoking hot Florida blonde, but more importantly she's smart, funny, and great to be around. If I ever had an intention of cheating on her, I would never have asked her to marry me. Also, we've talked about the infidelity thing. We both fully agree that if the urge to cheat gets that strong for either of us, we'll end the damn thing before we go behind each other's back. Integrity. Shit ain't that hard.

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[quote=GMScud;633721]I'm engaged as well. We're getting married in June. My fiancee is a smoking hot Florida blonde, but more importantly she's smart, funny, and great to be around. If I ever had an intention of cheating on her, I would never have asked her to marry me. Also, we've talked about the infidelity thing. We both fully agree that if the urge to cheat gets that strong for either of us, we'll end the damn thing before we go behind each other's back. Integrity. Shit ain't that hard.[/quote]

i'm glad to see i'm not the only one who still thinks this way

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[quote=mlmdub130;633720]i'm glad i'm not on my own here[/quote]

My married friends haven't cheated either...some of my parents' friends ot my friends' parents though...

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[quote=GMScud;633721]I'm engaged as well. We're getting married in June. [SIZE=4]My fiancee is a smoking hot Florida blonde[/SIZE], but more importantly she's smart, funny, and great to be around. If I ever had an intention of cheating on her, I would never have asked her to marry me. Also, we've talked about the infidelity thing. We both fully agree that if the urge to cheat gets that strong for either of us, we'll end the damn thing before we go behind each other's back. Integrity. Shit ain't that hard.[/quote]

Ok we need pics to confirm this in bold. I see many others here don't have friends that cheat on their wifes like mine and I think that says alot about who you hang around with.

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[quote=firstdown;633974]Ok we need pics to confirm this in bold. I see many others here don't have friends that cheat on their wifes like mine [B]and I think that says alot about who you hang around with.[/quote][/B]


True, if you think that your gf's friends are all ho's, then maybe you need to take a close look at your gf. birds of feather.......

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When are these "other women" going to realize that these athletes are not going to leave their wives at home? Steve McNair said it, Tiger Woods said it, and God knows I've heard of other celebrities doing it a million times over. I mean can anyone think of a time where it actually happened?

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[quote=firstdown;633974][B]Ok we need pics to confirm this in bold. [/B]I see many others here don't have friends that cheat on their wifes like mine and I think that says alot about who you hang around with.[/quote]

LOL. Well, I posted one in the Halloween thread back in October. She has a wig on in the pic, but she's blonde underneath the ridiculously blonde wig.

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/33092-what-are-you-doing-for-halloween.html#post619057[/URL]

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Four other women have come forward admitting to having affairs with the golfer. So Tiger isn't invincible as people would think he is!

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can we please let it go?

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[quote=GMScud;634026]LOL. Well, I posted one in the Halloween thread back in October. She has a wig on in the pic, but she's blonde underneath the ridiculously blonde wig.

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/33092-what-are-you-doing-for-halloween.html#post619057[/URL][/quote]

Good job my man.

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[quote=firstdown;634069]Good job my man.[/quote]

Thank you sir.

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SNL skit.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZDIwMG23bc&feature=related]YouTube - SNL Saturday Night Live Skit TIger Woods Funny[/url]

How long can it be until TW claims he is a sex addict, and will enter a treatment program? A little image spin?
This is seriously gonna' mess with his career. He is going to be listening to jokes about himself forever...............