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Springs doesn't have to take a paycut in order to be here. It would be nice to have him restructure, but his roster spot is NOT dependent on him taking a paycut.

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[quote=Mattyk72;294708]A simple restructure means the player gets their money up front rather than later on. Why would a player not be willing to do this in your opinion?[/quote]


Springs already said no.

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[quote=JDALY27;294983]Springs already said no.[/quote]

I don't recall seeing that the Skins attempted to restructure him. I was under the impression they have only approached him about taking a paycut.

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[quote=skinsfan69;294957]I don't think Springs is going to be here. Spings is not going to take a paycut. This move sealed his fate. It's time to move on anyway.[/quote]

Didn't someone already say that cutting Springs would have pretty much the same effect on the cap as keeping him under his current contract? Why, again, would we cut him? Doesn't make sense to me. Macklin is great insurance in case of injury and/or a solid nickel or dime CB........he's not Springs's replacement. If he was, the Skins would have certainly signed him to a longer deal than one year.

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I love the Macklin signing b/c it shows that our organization is able to sign ppl for cheap. Macklin could have used the knowledge that the skins usually overpay and used that as leverage. It's good to know that he signed b/c he wants to be here not b/c we paid him the most. I have a strong feeling that GW sees something in rhis guy that made him compel Gibbs to personally talk to him.

My only concern with our signings thus far is that we are dedicating a lot of signings and roster spots to the secondary. This is great b/c they struggled last year BUT we are neglecting our depth on the O-line. I am not saying we should cut Springs, but if we can entertain some sort of trade scenario that will either give us a starting OG or a 2nd round pick (or something) that will give us the ability to draft a starting OG, I would say springs is now expendable.

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[quote=Mattyk72;294984]I don't recall seeing that the Skins attempted to restructure him. I was under the impression they have only approached him about taking a paycut.[/quote]

Springs has all the leverage. If he gets cut he will most likely be making more money elsewhere. Not sure why the Redskins would expect him to take a pay cut? So maybe that's all they asked and now they are going to meet with him again to restructure? I would still be pissed off they asked me to take the pay cut in the first place.

Bottom line: Will Springs be here in your opinion?

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[quote=JDALY27;294993]Springs has all the leverage. If he gets cut he will most likely be making more money elsewhere. Not sure why the Redskins would expect him to take a pay cut? So maybe that's all they asked and now they are going to meet with him again to restructure? I would still be pissed off they asked me to take the pay cut in the first place.

Bottom line: Will Springs be here in your opinion?[/quote]

Yes, I think he'll be back.

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[quote=Rajmahal33;294986]I love the Macklin signing b/c it shows that our organization is able to sign ppl for cheap. Macklin could have used the knowledge that the skins usually overpay and used that as leverage. It's good to know that he signed b/c he wants to be here not b/c we paid him the most. I have a strong feeling that GW sees something in rhis guy that made him compel Gibbs to personally talk to him.

My only concern with our signings thus far is that we are dedicating a lot of signings and roster spots to the secondary. This is great b/c they struggled last year BUT we are neglecting our depth on the O-line. I am not saying we should cut Springs, but if we can entertain some sort of trade scenario that will either give us a starting OG or a 2nd round pick (or something) that will give us the ability to draft a starting OG, I would say springs is now expendable.[/quote]

I disagree about the OL, so far we've re-signed Wade and Pucillo, and also went out and signed Fabini and Tucker. They've addressed the OL depth and Wade is likely to start at LG. I don't think they are done making OL moves, but they certainly haven't ignored the need.

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[quote=Mattyk72;294994]Yes, I think he'll be back.[/quote]

Hope that you're right. I would love to see Springs, Taylor, Rogers, and Smoot start for us in the secondary new season.

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[quote=JDALY27;294997]Hope that you're right. I would love to see Springs, Taylor, Rogers, and Smoot start for us in the secondary new season.[/quote]

Unless it's for health reasons I don't see why they would cut him at this point. He fits into the cap right now despite his high number, and my guess is they'll get him to restructure at some point.

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[quote=Mattyk72;294998]Unless it's for health reasons I don't see why they would cut him at this point. He fits into the cap right now despite his high number, and my guess is they'll get him to restructure at some point.[/quote]

I may take heat for this but in my opinion he's the most talented secondary player on our roster right now when healthy.

Strength, Speed, Tackling, Coverage, experience, leadership is above everyone else. He needs to be here.

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[quote=JDALY27;295002]I may take heat for this but in my opinion he's the most talented secondary player on our roster right now when healthy.

Strength, Speed, Tackling, Coverage, experience, leadership is above everyone else. He needs to be here.[/quote]

Yeah you will take some heat and I'll start ;)

Taylor is far and away the most talented player in the secondary and perhaps the entire team. Has he lived up to his potential yet? No, definitely not. But from a [I]pure raw talent perspective[/I], I think Taylor is easily one of our top players, if not the very top.

Springs when healthy is definitely a very talented corner. He does have an impressive all-around skill set. Like you said he's physical, good speed, and he's been around the block. But if we're comparing raw talent, I don't think Springs can even come close to Taylor.

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[quote=Rajmahal33;294986]I love the Macklin signing b/c it shows that our organization is able to sign ppl for cheap. Macklin could have used the knowledge that the skins usually overpay and used that as leverage. It's good to know that he signed b/c he wants to be here not b/c we paid him the most. I have a strong feeling that GW sees something in rhis guy that made him compel Gibbs to personally talk to him.

My only concern with our signings thus far is that we are dedicating a lot of signings and roster spots to the secondary. This is great b/c they struggled last year BUT we are neglecting our depth on the O-line. I am not saying we should cut Springs, but if we can entertain some sort of trade scenario that will either give us a starting OG or a 2nd round pick (or something) that will give us the ability to draft a starting OG, I would say springs is now expendable.[/quote]

Let's look at it another way, we've got most of our cap tied up on the O w/a no. of D players towards the end of their deals. Plus our greatest needs are on D. We've been able to address the secondary in the offseason, and as Matty pointed out the O line to some degree too. That leaves us the draft for D line & maybe a guard or safety if the right players are available.

Other than the Briggs drama, this seems to have been a great offseason. A trade down in the draft would really be icing on the cake.

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[quote=holmester;294890]I really dont think Springs is gonna be playin saftey for the skins, for that matter not corner back either. I think this just makes a deal with detroit even more evident, to pick up CJ. Who are detroits starting CB's ..... oh thats right you can't name one of em. Springs is goin to detroit along with our 6th pick and probaly a pick for next year. All you CJ haters get over it, hes a skin.[/quote]
I like you're thinking! Did you read this somewhere? Is there a link?

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[quote=Mattyk72;295004]Yeah you will take some heat and I'll start ;)

Taylor is far and away the most talented player in the secondary and perhaps the entire team. Has he lived up to his potential yet? No, definitely not. But from a [I]pure raw talent perspective[/I], I think Taylor is easily one of our top players, if not the very top.

Springs when healthy is definitely a very talented corner. He does have an impressive all-around skill set. Like you said he's physical, good speed, and he's been around the block. But if we're comparing raw talent, I don't think Springs can even come close to Taylor.[/quote]

I can't remember the last time Springs was burned for a TD or picked up a personal foul or dropped an interception in his hands. That's all I'm saying. Taylor's potential is Ronnie Lott. I'm sure there are some prisoners doing time now that could have been the next millionaire or executive. Potential means nothings when not used properly.

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What he means is that players only restructure when it benefits them. Springs money is all guaranteed, and he does nothing but give up money to restructure.

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;295019]What he means is that players only restructure when it benefits them. Springs money is all guaranteed, and he does nothing but give up money to restructure.[/QUOTE]

Ok everyone listen up.

A typical restructure in the NFL means a player takes his upcoming season's base salary, which is not guaranteed, and reduces it to the vet min. He then takes the remaining part and turns it into a bonus, which is guaranteed. It costs no more money to the team and doesn't reduce the money that the player makes. But it does allow the player to get his salary all at once rather than as game checks which many players look at as a benefit.

Restructures like this ALWAYS benefit the player. There's no other way to look at it.

Some teams don't ever do this but the Skins do it quite often and usually they include an incentive like a little bit extra in the converted salary to bonus.

The situation with Springs is this. They asked him for a reduction in pay. They did not ask him to do a typical restructure. How do we know this? Because he said no. He wouldn't say no to having his UNguaranteed money turned into guaranteed money.

And not all of his money is currently guaranteed. That is not even possible with the CBA. Every player has a minimum salary that he has to receive based on how long he has been in the league. Salaries are not guaranteed.

That is all.

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[quote=FRPLG;295030]Ok everyone listen up.

A typical restructure in the NFL means a player takes his upcoming season's base salary, which is not guaranteed, and reduces it to the vet min. He then takes the remaining part and turns it into a bonus, which is guaranteed. It costs no more money to the team and doesn't reduce the money that the player makes. But it does allow the player to get his salary all at once rather than as game checks which many players look at as a benefit.

Restructures like this ALWAYS benefit the player. There's no other way to look at it.

Some teams don't ever do this but the Skins do it quite often and usually they include an incentive like a little bit extra in the converted salary to bonus.

The situation with Springs is this. They asked him for a reduction in pay. They did not ask him to do a typical restructure. How do we know this? Because he said no. He wouldn't say no to having his UNguaranteed money turned into guaranteed money.

And not all of his money is currently guaranteed. That is not even possible with the CBA. Every player has a minimum salary that he has to receive based on how long he has been in the league. Salaries are not guaranteed.

That is all.[/quote]Additionally, we would have no reason to want to restructure Springs, pushing money into future years, when in all likelyhood, he's in his final year here.

Asking for a pay cut makes sense, but you can't expect a player who has market value like Springs does to comply.

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Oh, I just love this signing and it makes me feel giddy all over. Does anyone else have the giddy feeling?

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Cardinals message boards aren't thinking to highly of him. I'm pretty sure he'll be better than a Rumph or Wright...

Heres a little link from the message board, doesn't really mean anything to me.

[url=http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=20749]David Macklin signed - Arizona Cardinals Forums[/url]

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I didn't know the Cardinals had real fans

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I looked at his stats from when he was with the Colts and Cardinals. It looks like he can catch the ball. Thats a positive. The real Question is where is he gonna be on the depth chart. We know ade plays Special Teams. I don't think he will be ahead of Rogers or Smoot. The good thing is that the skins have 4 quality corners on the roster going into next season. Focus on the Dline and the defense will be back to its normal self of harassing the other team. More and More i think about it though Laron Landry would be great with Sean Taylor, but D tackle or an end is more pressing need.

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[quote=RobH4413;295103]Cardinals message boards aren't thinking to highly of him. I'm pretty sure he'll be better than a Rumph or Wright...

Heres a little link from the message board, doesn't really mean anything to me.

[URL="http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=20749"]David Macklin signed - Arizona Cardinals Forums[/URL][/quote]

I thought this quote was actually pretty cool.........otherwise, I could care less what any Cardinals fan thinks.

"being that i grew up with him, it was very cool seeing him play for the cards the last 3 years. he text'd me wednesday night that he was signing with washington to pursue his lifelong dream of playing for the redskins. imma cards fan for life but imma gonna go check him out in DC. best of luck to him."
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[quote=freddyg12;295005]Let's look at it another way, we've got most of our cap tied up on the O w/a no. of D players towards the end of their deals. Plus our greatest needs are on D. We've been able to address the secondary in the offseason, and as Matty pointed out the O line to some degree too. That leaves us the draft for D line & maybe a guard or safety if the right players are available.

Other than the Briggs drama, this seems to have been a great offseason. A trade down in the draft would really be icing on the cake.[/quote]


Freddy - I agree with you - I think the Bears being greedy has saved the Skins from making the trade for Briggs. I would say if the Skins can trade down 2 times to pick up multiple picks it would pretty much cap a fantastic offseason. Granted we lost Dock, but the Bills threw a stupid amount of money on him so we smartly let him go to not blow our cap.

The team is going in the right direction - just don't do the Briggs trade and address the D Line and hopefully trade down to get additonal picks and we are back on track.

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[quote=JankySpanky80;295114]I looked at his stats from when he was with the Colts and Cardinals. It looks like he can catch the ball. Thats a positive. The real Question is where is he gonna be on the depth chart. We know ade plays Special Teams. I don't think he will be ahead of Rogers or Smoot. The good thing is that the skins have 4 quality corners on the roster going into next season. Focus on the Dline and the defense will be back to its normal self of harassing the other team. More and More i think about it though Laron Landry would be great with Sean Taylor, but D tackle or an end is more pressing need.[/quote]

Yeah, on the boards they were saying he gets a little to many PI calls. I'm not looking forward to that.

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Does anyone think that this might set up a swap with Detriot? Our 6th pick and Springs for Detroits #2 pick - this would enable us to select C. Johnson.

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from the skins point of view: springs said at the end of the season he would be surprised if he is back, he was shopped around with the lions and broncos, the team seems very interested in calvin and thinks he is the only impact player in the draft worth top 10 money, he is due to make 7.5 mil this year and more next year, he decided against surgery last year (ala coles), skins have done surprisingly well in adding value depth at corner with smoot and cheap macklin

from the lions: lost bly and have noone at corner with lil in the FA market or trade mills, too embarrased and financially commited to wr already to draft calvin and has been reported to be enamored with gaines adams (nice fit for them maybe) who is slotted to fall around the 6th pick

so yeah my gut is starting to think the skins already have a contingent trade in order with the lions if calvin falls to 2, which sucks cuz they flooded wr last year convinced it was the one position keeping us from the superbowl becuase it would stretch the field but YOU CANT STRETCH THE FIELD WITH BRUNNELS ARM OR ULTRA CONSERVATIVE DECISION MAKING (thank you gibbs coaching) . . .

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Please say no to CJ. It's just stupid in this offense.


We're a run oriented offense. When we pass, we have options (moss, are, lloyd, portis, betts, COOLEY!). We don't need any more. It's doesn't make sense.

Joe Gibbs runs the ball, and stops the run. We don't need a receiver, especially with how great of a need we have at defensive line.

No more fantasy... let's be practical and address what we actually need, instead of trying to sell more jerseys.

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if you owned the 6th pick and have major needs at DL you could not ask for a better draft scenario, man im going to feel weird on draft day if we draft calvin, i just hope we dont include next years 1st

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[quote=RobH4413;295168]Please say no to CJ. It's just stupid in this offense.


We're a run oriented offense. When we pass, we have options (moss, are, lloyd, portis, betts, COOLEY!). We don't need any more. It's doesn't make sense.

Joe Gibbs runs the ball, and stops the run. We don't need a receiver, especially with how great of a need we have at defensive line.

No more fantasy... let's be practical and address what we actually need, instead of trying to sell more jerseys.[/quote]

Let's clear a few thing up here. CJ would fit a run first offsense perfectly, he is a possession receiver who can also stretch the field, and can also block. He is a perfect complement to Moss and ARE.

Second, the skins don't want to restructure Springs because that means if we cut him next year our cap hit would be much higher, the Redskins asked him to take a paycut and he said no, they did not ask him to restructure.

Third, although our Dline needs another player or two, we have two second year players at DT who are going to be better. Carter will be better, and there is no way we have a down year on the whole dline. Our Dline still has the same players that led to a number 3 defense.

The only thing that should prevent us from trading up to get CJ, is if someone offers us a can't miss trade down deal, before the draft. Or, if we have to part with more than a swap and our second rounder next year. Or if we throw in Springs (not a good idea), they need to give us a third or 4th rounder.

Our FO needs to remember we have the advantage, Detroit doesn't want that pick. They need to draw the line in the sand just like they did with Briggs and say this is what we think he is worth, nothing more.

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[quote=skinsfan242;295235]Let's clear a few thing up here. CJ would fit a run first offsense perfectly, he is a possession receiver who can also stretch the field, and can also block. He is a perfect complement to Moss and ARE.
[/quote]

I didn't say CJ wouldn't fit here, I said we don't need him here, and it's true... we don't. We're a run oriented offense, meaning that adding CJ wouldn't impact this team the way someone on the DL would.

We have talented receivers, and signing someone to a huge contract for a position we really don't need is insanity.
[quote=skinsfan242]
Third, although our Dline needs another player or two, we have two second year players at DT who are going to be better. Carter will be better, [B]and there is no way we have a down year on the whole dline.[/B] [B]Our Dline still has the same players that led to a number 3 defense.[/B][/quote]
Yes your right, we have the same players that led to a number 3 defense... several years and injuries later. That same defensive line also led to last years near last ranked defense. Your argument is terrible. Our d-line is getting old and we need some youth to upgrade.

I think many will agree with me that going into this year with the same d-line is a terrible mistake.

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Yes your right, we have the same players that led to a number 3 defense... several years and injuries later. That same defensive line also led to last years near last ranked defense. Your argument is terrible. Our d-line is getting old and we need some youth to upgrade.

I think many will agree with me that going into this year with the same d-line is a terrible mistake.[/quote]

I'm just saying although we could use a player, if we can get CJ it would create much more value to this team. We don't have a possession player on the team outside of Cooley. I'm not arguing we don't need someone, just there is worthy at number 6. Our first option should be to trade down and second should be to try to get CJ. I honestly wish we would just sign I. Scott.

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242, who would you say are the best receivers in the game today?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan242;295238]

I'm just saying although we could use a player, if we can get CJ it would create much more value to this team. We don't have a possession player on the team outside of Cooley. I'm not arguing we don't need someone, just there is worthy at number 6. Our first option should be to trade down and second should be to try to get CJ. I honestly wish we would just sign I. Scott.[/QUOTE]


What?
Why in the world would you go for CJ when you just admitted that we had a horrible DL?
Even if in 2017 we look back and CJ became the stud that everyone thinks he is, I still say NO! We don't need him. We have a lot of talent at WR, we did not have the capability to utilyze them properly in 06. Even Jerry Rice in his prime would have been nearly useless with Brunell last year, and Campbell throwing at a little over 50% comp. So if our holes are on the D, why not address them?
A lot of people here complain that we do not use the draft to address problems but instead choose FA to fill those holes. Well, here's our chance to actually do something with a real draft pick. I really don't care if we trade down for more picks, but those picks better address our D problems. I am not wanting to go through ANOTHER season of no penetration!
It all starts with penetration!!! (giggidy)

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Oh, I forgot...Macklin is a good pick up...especially since he costs NOTHING against the cap.

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[quote=jsarno;295243]What?
Why in the world would you go for CJ when you just admitted that we had a horrible DL?
Even if in 2017 we look back and CJ became the stud that everyone thinks he is, I still say NO! We don't need him. We have a lot of talent at WR, we did not have the capability to utilyze them properly in 06. Even Jerry Rice in his prime would have been nearly useless with Brunell last year, and Campbell throwing at a little over 50% comp. So if our holes are on the D, why not address them?
A lot of people here complain that we do not use the draft to address problems but instead choose FA to fill those holes. Well, here's our chance to actually do something with a real draft pick. I really don't care if we trade down for more picks, but those picks better address our D problems. I am not wanting to go through ANOTHER season of no penetration!
It all starts with penetration!!! (giggidy)[/quote]

The Receivers? I would say, Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne, T.O., Marvin Harrison, and Andre Johnson.

I still say the first option is to trade down and then we can pick Dline, no-one is worth the 6th pick on the dline. But I still think if you have a chance to take by far the best player in the Draft you have to, No question. Draft dline with every pick in the 5,6, and 7th rounds and hope someone works out.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan242;295252]The Receivers? I would say, Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne, T.O., Marvin Harrison, and Andre Johnson.

I still say the first option is to trade down and then we can pick Dline, no-one is worth the 6th pick on the dline. But I still think if you have a chance to take by far the best player in the Draft you have to, No question. Draft dline with every pick in the 5,6, and 7th rounds and hope someone works out.[/QUOTE]


I would pretty much agree with that list. Maybe add in Randy Moss and possibly Roy Williams.

But anyway, what I'm getting at is-with the exception of Harrison and Wayne-the best receivers were not in the playoffs last year. Instead you had guys like Reche Caldwell, Bernard Berrian, Vincent Jackson. So how much of an impact is CJ going to have? I think his best value to the Redskins, if still there at #6, is as trade bait

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[quote=skinsfan242;295252]The Receivers? I would say, Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne, T.O., Marvin Harrison, and Andre Johnson.

I still say the first option is to trade down and then we can pick Dline, no-one is worth the 6th pick on the dline. But I still think if you have a chance to take by far the best player in the Draft you have to, No question. Draft dline with every pick in the 5,6, and 7th rounds and hope someone works out.[/quote]Let me play devil's advocate for a second.

What makes Calvin Johnson the best player in the draft? Hype? A 40 time? A vertical leap? The extra year of college EXP that he left on the table? Because Reggie Ball sucks? What Todd McShay thinks? What my neighbor thinks? A combination of the above?

I think we can both agree that all the above are bad reasons to consider any prospect to be the best in the draft. So what are some good reasons to be of the opinion that CJ is the best player of the draft?

Honest film evaluation? Advanced statistical analysis? Finding similarities and differences between bust WRs and great WRs and seeing which group CJ more assimilates too?

I would say that these are some good ways to evalute Calvin Johnson as a draft prospect. I would also assume that 95% or more of the people who think CJ is the best prospect in this draft think so for one--or a combination--of the reasons mentioned three paragraphs ago.

Somebody please correct me if I'm way off base here.

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[quote=skinsfan242;295238]I'm just saying although we could use a player, if we can get CJ it would create much more value to this team. [B]We don't have a possession player on the team outside of Cooley.[/B] I'm not arguing we don't need someone, just there is worthy at number 6. Our first option should be to trade down and second should be to try to get CJ. I honestly wish we would just sign I. Scott.[/quote]

Just two questions:

1)How many possession players does a team really need?
2)What makes Santana Moss a poor possession player but makes CJ a great possession player? Size alone?

Ian Scott gives us an immediate solution at DT, but doesn't fix our biggest problem, and that's a lack of youth on the DL. If we were to draft a DL and sign Ian Scott, who gets cut? Saleve'a? Golston? Montgomery? Do we keep 6 on the 53 man roster?

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[quote=jsarno;295243]What?
Why in the world would you go for CJ when you just admitted that we had a horrible DL?
Even if in 2017 we look back and CJ became the stud that everyone thinks he is, I still say NO! We don't need him. We have a lot of talent at WR, we did not have the capability to utilyze them properly in 06. Even Jerry Rice in his prime would have been nearly useless with Brunell last year, and Campbell throwing at a little over 50% comp. So if our holes are on the D, why not address them?
A lot of people here complain that we do not use the draft to address problems but instead choose FA to fill those holes. Well, here's our chance to actually do something with a real draft pick. I really don't care if we trade down for more picks, but those picks better address our D problems. I am not wanting to go through ANOTHER season of no penetration!
It all starts with penetration!!! (giggidy)[/quote]Good post, Jsarno.

Let's say that Calvin Johnson pans out as a great receiver. Not historically great or anything, just great. He's the next Reggie Wayne or Larry Fitzgerald.

Would he still be worth what we COULD have had with the 6th PLUS what we could have had with the stuff we gave up to get the 2nd pick?

The simple answer is theres just no way. Lets say 5 years into his career, he surpasses Moss as our go to 3rd down target. So for the first four years of his career he was a good player along for the ride, and now Moss is up there in years and has restructured his contract multiple times and is on his way out. So now, finally in 2011, we are going to turn CJ into a pro bowl receiver.

Nevermind that our defense was among the leagues worst from 2006-2009. Nevermind that our offense has ranked 10, 6, 7, and 11 respectively over the last four years. Nevermind that we have been above .500 once in the past 5 seasons. WE HAVE OUR FIRST PRO BOWL RECEIVER SINCE MOSS 2008!!!! He goes on over the next 8 years to put a borderline HOF career togehter. Eventually in the twighlight of JC's career, we start to make the playoffs every year because our D begins to ressurect itself after being ignored in the first round of the draft for years since the pick of perennial #2 CB, Carlos Rogers.

What a wonderful freakin pick.