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SFREDSKIN 09-22-2015 12:12 AM

Re: Amerson Waived
 
The Colts are missing their top 3 CB's to injury, wouldn't surprise me if they put a claim for him tomorrow.

HailGreen28 09-22-2015 04:00 AM

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Amerson was good in a scheme like cover 2, where he wasn't out on an island.

Covering one guy for an extended time? He got consistently burned even in college. Shanny drafted him for the defense at the time, to play zone, jump routes, and tackle. Really not Amerson's fault we changed schemes, though he is limited because he tends to get burned often.

53Fan 09-22-2015 11:37 AM

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He had opportunity, unfortunately he didn't make the most out of it. Good luck and farewell.

Chico23231 09-22-2015 05:40 PM

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Raiders claimed CB David Amerson off waivers from the Redskins.

Still only 23, Amerson is blessed with ideal size and speed, but was a frequent burn victim in the Redskins' secondary. There are snaps there for the taking in Oakland's beat up secondary, but there's little reason to believe Amerson will be any more effective for coach Jack Del Rio than he was in Washington.

-per Ian Rapport

30gut 01-14-2016 04:43 PM

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David Amerson tops PFF’s award list for Most Improved Player



Amerson was the Redskins’ second-round pick in 2013, and saw the field in every game during his rookie season. He struggled with consistency throughout the year, and finished with a relatively low coverage grade, which placed him 92nd out of 110 cornerbacks. Last season his coverage grade dropped even further, and he slid all the way down to 106th at his position. Amerson was released after Week 1 this season, and was subsequently picked up by the Raiders, where he’s been a completely different player ever since.

The former NC State standout posted a positive production grade in 2015, despite being targeted 104 times (sixth-most among NFL CBs). On those targets, he allowed just 58 completions and one touchdown. He tied for fifth overall with 13 passes defensed, and also picked off four passes. Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014; this season, that number has dropped to 62.7. His improvements have brought him up to an 83.4 overall grade, good for 15th out of all cornerbacks this season.

JoeRedskin 01-14-2016 05:20 PM

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^^ C'est la vie

Alvin Walton 01-14-2016 05:22 PM

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Those grapes would have been sour anyway.

REDSKINS4ever 01-14-2016 08:15 PM

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I hope he learns to stay disciplined and not go for double moves a lot.

DYoungJelly 01-14-2016 09:08 PM

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[quote=30gut;1137586]David Amerson tops PFF’s award list for Most Improved Player



Amerson was the Redskins’ second-round pick in 2013, and saw the field in every game during his rookie season. He struggled with consistency throughout the year, and finished with a relatively low coverage grade, which placed him 92nd out of 110 cornerbacks. Last season his coverage grade dropped even further, and he slid all the way down to 106th at his position. Amerson was released after Week 1 this season, and was subsequently picked up by the Raiders, where he’s been a completely different player ever since.

The former NC State standout posted a positive production grade in 2015, despite being targeted 104 times (sixth-most among NFL CBs). On those targets, he allowed just 58 completions and one touchdown. He tied for fifth overall with 13 passes defensed, and also picked off four passes. Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014; this season, that number has dropped to 62.7. His improvements have brought him up to an 83.4 overall grade, good for 15th out of all cornerbacks this season.[/quote]

PFF is garbage.

REDSKINS4ever 01-15-2016 12:53 AM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1137614]PFF is garbage.[/quote]

So I've heard....lol

30gut 01-15-2016 07:55 AM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1137614]PFF is garbage.[/quote]
Lol, likely response.

Don't agree with a metric or analysis? It must be garbage right?

Anyhow in a round about way PFF is kinda garbage now since their best content is available exclusively to NFL/NCAA professional organizations.

I guess the NFL doesn't know their metrics are garbage.

Anyhow letting Amerson go was a mistake based on his on the field performance. Of course it will be assumed that there was more to letting him go and it wasn't a mistake at the time...fans generally want to believe every move their organization makes is correct.

But based on how Amerson played we could have used him.

That Guy 01-15-2016 07:56 AM

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also you need to compare systems. if you play in seattle you only play cover 2/3, so a good man corner like revis would basically be wasted there. from what i recall amerson was more of a zone guy, but walt harris also had a career year after leaving. d hall played much better for us after the raider cut him too, so it happens.

you can't assume someone's success elsewhere would translate here 1 for 1.

as yeah, because of injuries we could have used him. if culliver and breeland both play 16 games, he would have been on the bench most of the year.

DYoungJelly 01-15-2016 09:29 AM

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[quote=30gut;1137629]Lol, likely response.

Don't agree with a metric or analysis? It must be garbage right?

Anyhow in a round about way PFF is kinda garbage now since their best content is available exclusively to NFL/NCAA professional organizations.

I guess the NFL doesn't know their metrics are garbage.

Anyhow letting Amerson go was a mistake based on his on the field performance. Of course it will be assumed that there was more to letting him go and it wasn't a mistake at the time...fans generally want to believe every move their organization makes is correct.

But based on how Amerson played we could have used him.[/quote]

It's garbage because PFF doesn't put the time or game understanding into their analysis to give a grade that actually reflects game performance.

PFF is a bunch of guys who have every nfl player graded the day after a game and who don't know the plays called or the responsibilities of the players they're grading.

The mere fact alone that their grades are ready so quickly after the games tells me they don't put much time into their evaluation.

The perfect example to illustrate why PFF is garbage is from earlier this year when PFF gave Trent Williams a negative grade for the same game that Cooley said was the perfect example of what a left tackle should be.

Cooley went on raving about Trent from that game. He said high school and college coaches should show their players game film of Trent from the game as to how you dominate and make it look easy.

Any rating service that blows a grade of an entire game, with 40+ snaps is garbage and cannot be trusted.

Anytime there is a subjective grade, the individual grading is the single most important factor, that's why PFF isn't a metric at all.

Relying on PFF for analysis, is relying on some anonymous guy with supposed football acumen to tell you what happened in a game.

Could you get the same analysis on Reddit for free? Nobody knows, because we don't know who the analyst is.

Schneed10 01-15-2016 09:48 AM

Re: Amerson Waived
 
[quote=30gut;1137629]Lol, likely response.

Don't agree with a metric or analysis? It must be garbage right?

Anyhow in a round about way PFF is kinda garbage now since their best content is available exclusively to NFL/NCAA professional organizations.

I guess the NFL doesn't know their metrics are garbage.

Anyhow letting Amerson go was a mistake based on his on the field performance. Of course it will be assumed that there was more to letting him go and it wasn't a mistake at the time...fans generally want to believe every move their organization makes is correct.

But based on how Amerson played we could have used him.[/quote]

First, you can only make moves based on how a guy is playing for you. When Amerson was waived not a single one of us complained because he was playing like crap. To see him turn it around in Oakland is a complete surprise, but all we had to go on was that he was playing like crap for us, and we can't change an entire defensive system for one player.

Second, who has two thumbs and doesn't give a shit about how David Amerson is playing?

mooby 01-15-2016 09:53 AM

Re: Amerson Waived
 
[quote=30gut;1137629]Lol, likely response.

Don't agree with a metric or analysis? It must be garbage right?

Anyhow in a round about way PFF is kinda garbage now since their best content is available exclusively to NFL/NCAA professional organizations.

I guess the NFL doesn't know their metrics are garbage.

[B]Anyhow letting Amerson go was a mistake based on his on the field performance[/B]. Of course it will be assumed that there was more to letting him go and it wasn't a mistake at the time...fans generally want to believe every move their organization makes is correct.

But based on how Amerson played we could have used him.[/quote]

Did you ignore the part where they said Amerson had one of the worst seasons in 2014? Let me refresh your memory:

"Last season, he allowed more completions (61) on fewer targets (91), and an NFL-high 10 touchdowns when targeted. Quarterbacks had a 140.2 rating when targeting Amerson in 2014"

When you combine that with the fact the coaches have access to how hard he worked in practice, how he looked on film in preseason and 2 games in the regular season, it's easy to conclude why they released him. They didn't feel he was worthy of a roster spot. It's very easy to sit back after the fact and say it was a bad decision, but it was the right decision at the time. Maybe the reason he's turned it around was because the change of scenery did him good. Maybe he realized getting cut 3 weeks into a season is not a good sign for his career.


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