Re: #22 Rogers!
 

[quote=Lotus;750013]This thread lacks a real issue.

Therefore, I suggest that the problem is not Rogers' hands, the problem is the shape of the ball. The NFL needs to adopt a round ball like in volleyball. Discuss.[/quote]

It would make field goals interesting.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

[quote=Lotus;750013]This thread lacks a real issue.

Therefore, I suggest that the problem is not Rogers' hands, the problem is the shape of the ball. The NFL needs to adopt a round ball like in volleyball. Discuss.[/quote]

INTs may increase, but fumbles would skyrocket.

This is what they need:

[IMG]http://www.ironbellathletics.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/kettlebell-comparison-014.jpg[/IMG]






Carlos' only hope so be a turnover force is if they start using these:

[IMG]http://totallytoyz.com/shop/images/velcrocatch.jpg[/IMG]

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

Yes, but catching the ball IS part of his job.


If he were a LB, it would be less of an issue...but INTs are part of what a DB is SUPPOSED to do.

This would be like a catcher who can't throw the ball...like Jorge Posada who only throws out 14% of base-stealers. Yes, he's great at other parts of his game, but his one big issue does end up costing the team far more often than it should. Makes for a tough decision for the team.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

[quote=SouperMeister;749864]The NFL introduced this flukey rule in the last 10 years that a receiver or a defender must maintain possession even after hitting the ground when falling to the ground as a single act following the catch. By this new definition of what constitutes a catch, Butch Johnson's TD in Super Bowl XIII would have been an incompletion. That said, if a receiver or defender makes a 2nd act after the catch, tucking the ball away, cutting upfield, tripping on his own, falling, then fumbling, [U]then the ground can most certainly cause a fumble[/U].[/quote]

Thanks SM for the explanation. I wasn't sure I could actually express what I wanted to say about the play and make it make sense.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

[quote=skinsfan69;750021]It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.[/quote]

So when you're watching games and you see him drop INTs on a weekly basis, your initial reaction is just meh, not his job?

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

[quote=Mattyk;750026]So when you're watching games and you see him drop INTs on a weekly basis, your initial reaction is just meh, not his job?[/quote]

At this point I just laugh cause he's dropped so many. His first job is to cover and he's been doing a decent job. Would you rather have Rogers, who has been covering well, or Hall who catches everything but can't cover Danny Amendola. Give me Rogers.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

This isn't a stat I would have expected Rogers and Revis to share

[QUOTE]According to STATS LLC, Rogers has failed to come down with a league-high six "pickable passes" this season. He's had 10 since the start of 2009, tying him with Johnathan Joseph and Darrelle Revis for the most over that period.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2013224764_apfbnredskinsrogershands.html]Sports | Redskins CB Rogers can cover, still can't catch | Seattle Times Newspaper[/url]

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

Ironically, playing Madden last night Carlos Rogers made a one-handed pick. If I could figure out how to save Madden highlights, I would have. Of course, Madden Carlos Rogers also proceeded to drop three INTs in that same game.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

I haven't bothered looking but Rogers should have the worst hands in the game in Madden.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

He has a 35 catch rating

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

Should be in the negatives LOL

I always laugh when he snags a pick or two in a game.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

[quote=skinsfan69;750037]At this point I just laugh cause he's dropped so many. His first job is to cover and he's been doing a decent job. Would you rather have Rogers, who has been covering well, or Hall who catches everything but can't cover Danny Amendola. Give me Rogers.[/quote]
They just provide extra stress on the fans in their own ways. I don't unequivocally like either. Rogers could have changed many games for the better, but he did not make the plays.

Re: #22 Rogers!
 

Most - - not all to be sure but most - - defensive backs are players who cannot catch the ball well. If they were reliable catchers, they would be WRs. DBs have comparable speed to WRs; they are agile like WRs. Other than the fact that WRs tend to be a bit taller on average than DBs, the most significant difference between the players who man those positions is the ability to catch a football reliably.

Carlos Rogers is an extreme example of this point - - but it is true for well more than half the DBs in the NFL.