Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=SouperMeister;616562]I recall many on this board calling for drafting DeSean Jackson two years back. It's ironic that he now has 3 long TDs against us in just 4 games when you consider that we drafted BOTH Devin Thomas and Fred Davis ahead of Jackson. In addition, we get very little from Randle El as a punt returner while Jackson gives Philly a legitimate chance to score on every punt return. With Moss and Portis on the back side of their careers, where will our explosive plays come from in 2 years?[/quote]

Its too late to recall we should have drafted Jackson how many other teams passed on him? We have who we have and we need to get the ball in their hands like the Eagles did with the reverse to Jackson. Devin Thomas needs the ball, he is bigger and stronger than Jackson. He may not be as fast but he has the talent to be special.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616623]Ok man I would also take Rivers, Orton, Garrard, Shaub, Sanchez, Flacco, BIG BEN, well that leaves Jc in the bottom 10 lol[/quote]

Rivers Big Ben pro bowl QBs Orton u wouldn't have said his name before this year and I am not sold on Sanchez, Garrard is pretty much the same guy as Campbell.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616633][B]Its the SAME SHOULDER bro!![/B] Thats ONE injury to the same shoulder... I watch this guy play every game and if you did, you would see why even Peyton Manning is high on him.. I agree with building an oline trust me we need too, but you cant pass on a "Franchise" QB[/quote]

Great! I swear, you are Dan Snyder.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=SouperMeister;616634]No, you kill me. Great teams are built from the inside out. You could put Tom Brady himself behind this current O-line, and we would be no better than a 7 win team. Do you really believe that Bradford would instantly make us a 10 win team without an O-line and consistent running game?[/quote]

No man I didnt say 10 wins, obviously this team is only gonna win 4 games at best this yr.. It's alot harder to find a Franchise QB than it is to find a DECENT OLINE.. Even the guys said tonight that many sacks are Campbell's fault.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616593]Cutler has no WR'S and their line is bad also.. JC is awful and everyone outside of our fans got to see it tonight. He had two td's but the last one was a JUNK td. I would take anyone from the East over him, Plus Cutler, Rodgers, Warner, Hasselbeck, Ryan, Brees, and most of the AFC qb's so yea he's a bottom 10 QB.. Just look at his overall numbers and record for his career.[/quote]

What!? you would rather Culter Mr. Int, or Jake Delhomey. Brees same Offense for years = success. Warner Same O = success. Rodgers Same O = success. P. Manning, McNabb, Brady, Big Ben same O for years = success. I see a pattern and you don't?

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616646]No man I didnt say 10 wins, obviously this team is only gonna win 4 games at best this yr.. It's alot harder to find a Franchise QB than it is to find a DECENT OLINE.. Even the guys said tonight that many sacks are Campbell's fault.[/quote]

I say we trade for Sage Rosenfelds.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616629]How in the hell would you think we could go back to the old glory days in today's QB driven league???? I swear you guys kill me sometimes when you say dumb shit about A kid who would have been the NUMBER 1 pick at the age of 21!! This guy would make us better immediatly[/quote]

Only cause the QB class was weak as shit last season and how would he make us instantly better laying on his ass???

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;616645]Great! I swear, you are Dan Snyder.[/quote]

So tell me what would you do? Keep a Bum is JC or draft a guy who has atleast more potential than Campbell. He's 28 yrs old and will never be a starter again. I understand about the oline but at some point you need a playmaking qb. A. Rodgers gets sacked more than anyone but yet he still puts up big numbers.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

Ladies and Gentlemen, your franchise QB...

[IMG]http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/football/ncaa/09/28/bradford.oklahoma.ap/sam-bradford.jpg[/IMG]

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;616649]Only cause the QB class was weak as shit last season and how would he make us instantly better laying on his ass???[/quote]

WEAK? well sanchez would probably make us atleast a .500 team. Again what are you guys saying? Face the music and admit that JC has set us back along with VC and Zorn

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616657]WEAK? well sanchez would probably make us atleast a .500 team. Again what are you guys saying? Face the music and admit that JC has set us back along with VC and Zorn[/quote]The hot dog would have helped this disaster more than Sanchez would have.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616633]Its the SAME SHOULDER bro!! Thats ONE injury to the same shoulder... I watch this guy play every game and if you did, you would see why even Peyton Manning is high on him.. I agree with building an oline trust me we need too, but you cant pass on a "Franchise" QB[/quote]


When have you seen a franchise QB put up numbers behind a garbage line???? Never. Flacco, Ryan, McNabb, Manning, Brady all played behind good offensive lines in their first year. Look at Alex Smith...his line sucked..and therefore...so did he. You build the OL first...and then get the QB. What do yall think happened in Minnesota...they had a GOOD line but THEN needed the QB to steer the ship.

WE NEED OL DRAFTED IN EVERY ROUND OF THIS UP COMING DRAFT!!! NO EXCEPTIONS

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616646]No man I didnt say 10 wins, obviously this team is only gonna win 4 games at best this yr.. It's alot harder to find a Franchise QB than it is to find a DECENT OLINE.. Even the guys said tonight that many sacks are Campbell's fault.[/quote]My point is that gambling on drafting a franchise QB is a crapshoot. We crapped out with Shuler at #3 overall. We traded up to get Campbell and that isn't working. Gibbs won Super Bowls with less than dominant QBs. Theismann was the best of the bunch, but he wasn't Manning or Brady by any stretch. I've always believed that building a dominant line will allow whomever we have at the skill positions become playmakers.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616657]WEAK? well sanchez would probably make us atleast a .500 team. Again what are you guys saying? Face the music and admit that JC has set us back along with VC and Zorn[/quote]

Sanchez has pretty much and all pro line in front of him. He would have died here.

Re: DeSean Jackson = Playmaker. Who is ours?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;616650]So tell me what would you do? Keep a Bum is JC or draft a guy who has atleast more potential than Campbell. He's 28 yrs old and will never be a starter again. I understand about the oline but at some point you need a playmaking qb. A. Rodgers gets sacked more than anyone but yet he still puts up big numbers.[/quote]

I would keep this bum as a back up, pick up an experience free agent and draft a good prospect in the 4th or 5th round. But I would hope that Snyder would hire a GM and let him figure this out.