Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;613610]Williams has had his ups and downs, his stint in Jax wasn't so good.

My point was that Gibbs made this call to sign Arch because of GW, then told Snyderatto what to do, they simply executed what Gibbs said. Gibbs was certainly no "butt boy" to Snyder. If anything, Snyder worshiped the ground Gibbs walked on.[/quote]

True, Gregg didn't do good in Jax.. But other than the stint at Jax and the Redskins 2006, he did pretty good with his defense.. I just discovered something through wikipedia.com, Sean Payton voluntary took 250,000 dollars pay cut, in order to get Gregg to come to Saints.. That says something..

As for Gibbs and Snyderatto, I have no comment.. I have no idea what's going on in that organization, just like most of us.. I have been huge fan of Redskins since 2004.. I wasn't crazy about football until that year when I started playing football for high school, and my family always have rooted for Skins.. So I started to root for Skins, but then next thing I knew, I fell in love with Redskins, you could say that I'm becoming obsessed with Redskins stuff.. I never have really felt that low about this; I wasn't really aware of Redskins' seasons before 2004.. Obviously, we know who's responsible for stuff and such but I just don't see any point of complaining and pointing fingers at people..

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

Yup, the team is U N R A V E L I N G !!! We need to make it so uncomfortable for Danny he leaves town!

Josh B

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=Josh Baker;613675]Yup, the team is U N R A V E L I N G !!! We need to make it so uncomfortable for Danny he leaves town!

Josh B[/quote]

Welcome to the board Josh Baker.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

For a 2-4 team, people outside of Redskins fans sure talk about the Redskins a lot these days. Win or lose, we're always in the national news.

Re: Steve Largent rifps Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=WaldSkins;613568]Name one thing that Dan Snyder should have learned from Gibbs 2.0?[/quote]

Hi LaVar.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

So now we got Tre Johnson, Tony Kornheiser, John Kent Cooke, John Riggins, and now Steve Largent taking shots at Snyder. Oh please let all this criticism result in Vinny getting fired.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=WaldSkins;613568]Name one thing that Dan Snyder should have learned from Gibbs 2.0?[/quote]

He should've learned not to call or let his VP of personel call a guy that's been out of football 4 years that's been calling bingo to come in in the middle of the season and take over the offense.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;613702]So now we got Tre Johnson, Tony Kornheiser, John Kent Cooke, John Riggins, and now Steve Largent taking shots at Snyder. Oh please let all this criticism result in Vinny getting fired.[/quote]

There's certainly tons of scrunity pointed toward the Skins front office. I think that is a great thing but I hope it doesn't go in vain.

At the end of the season, Snyder could end up hiring a some no name GM who can be easily be influenced by advancement and money and he'd get to wipe the slate clean and have his influence back again.

I hope the stress for Skins fans this offseason is to have Snyder get a known commidity as GM in front office.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

It's one thing to be patient, it's another to just let a mess continue. Keeping Zorn (and Vinny) around much longer is just letting a mess continue.

Additionally, I think if Snyder had less patience either Williams or Fassel would be our head coach but instead he put it in VC's hands to go through a process and be the one to select our head coach. This process it turns out included vindictiveness and has turned rather disastrous for us.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;613610]Williams has had his ups and downs, his stint in Jax wasn't so good.

Gibbs was certainly no "butt boy" to Snyder. If anything, Snyder worshiped the ground Gibbs walked on.[/quote]

Correct. He made Gibbs the team President - Gibbs could sign anyone he wanted.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=Skinny Tee;613719]There's certainly tons of scrunity pointed toward the Skins front office. I think that is a great thing but I hope it doesn't go in vain.

At the end of the season, Snyder could end up hiring a some no name GM who can be easily be influenced by advancement and money and he'd get to wipe the slate clean and have his influence back again.

I hope the stress for Skins fans this offseason is to have Snyder get a known commidity as GM in front office.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind a no name GM if he was from a trusted and respected front office that knows what the hell it's been doing for the last ten years, i.e. Pats, Steelers, Ravens, etc. Also one who could show Snyder upfront to let him run the show but also make Snyder feel like he's important, kinda like what Jimmy Johnson said.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=mooby;613754]I wouldn't mind a no name GM if he was from a trusted and respected front office that knows what the hell it's been doing for the last ten years, i.e. Pats, Steelers, Ravens, etc. Also one who could show Snyder upfront to let him run the show but also make Snyder feel like he's important, kinda like what Jimmy Johnson said.[/quote]

Eric DeCosta current director of player personnel from the Ravens, started his NFL career as an intern with the Redskins in 1995 (pre-Snyder). He's supposed to be a hot up and coming candidate for a GM position. Another player personnel guy is Brian Gaine (current assistant director of player personnel for the Dolphins). He's also supposed to be a hot gun with previous experience with the Cowboys before going to Miami w/ Jeff Ireland.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=SmootSmack;613720]It's one thing to be patient, it's another to just let a mess continue. Keeping Zorn (and Vinny) around much longer is just letting a mess continue.

[B]Additionally, I think if Snyder had less patience either Williams or Fassel would be our head coach but instead he put it in VC's hands to go through a process and be the one to select our head coach. [/B]This process it turns out included vindictiveness and has turned rather disastrous for us.[/quote]

Wait SS I thought Snyder and Williams didn't get along, and when it became clear (after like 4 interviews) they couldn't work together then came the search for a different HC? I mean the way you phrased it here sort of sounds like Snyder might have gone w/ Williams if Cerrato's involvement had been less or different?

...not knowing much about Snyder prior to his ownership, do you have any intuition how a "media" guy can be so clueless about shaping an image? I mean whatever reputation he had is sinking like lead...and the stunts w/ Zorn over the last couple weeks only worsen the image, right? How does the dude not see what everyone else in football sees?

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

[quote=mooby;613754]I wouldn't mind a no name GM if he was from a trusted and respected front office that knows what the hell it's been doing for the last ten years, i.e. Pats, Steelers, Ravens, etc. Also one who could show Snyder upfront to let him run the show but also make Snyder feel like he's important, kinda like what Jimmy Johnson said.[/quote]

What I meant was a no name GM essentially from one of Snyder's business branches. You know he has tons of executives that he'd love to give a job to in order to keep his over sight on the team.

Jimmy Johnson's comment was pretty much a joke because he said you'd have to find a ficitious 'magic man' that would be able to run the show and make Snyder feel involoved...basically saying that's impossible.

Re: Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team
 

Steve Largent said what need to be said...and its all the truth.

The most telling thing about his whole statement was the fact that Vinny and Danny actually pulled out Zorn's contract and said you have to do whatever the owner says.....that is insane, and if it isn't meddling I don't know what is. Dan Snyder might legitamately be mentally ill, im dead serious. We might have a ceritified nutjob running our Skins.

I still can't get over the fact that a guy who has been out of the league for 5 years and with the team for 2 weeks is actually calling our plays and the head coach has no power to stop it....complete laughing stock. I am embarassed for the Skins.

and to all the people who say our O can't get worse with Lewis calling the plays....oh yes it can and it will, MNF is going to be ugly. I seriously will not be surprised in JZ quits at halftime.