You know I've read a lot of threads about Brunells performance instead of looking at the consistent disgusting performance of Portis. The excuses he has made and his failures has seriously damaged the offense because it has made our offense one dimesional. No running game, no passing game. We need a change at the running back position until Portis understands what he's suppose to be doing.

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]I think Brunell doesn't have confidence in his arm anymore[/QUOTE]

I think Brunell has given up on the offensive line. After the fumble after Bett's failure to block, Brunell went down hill.

I understand that the QB is the "pilot" of the offense but geez....we're not getting it done on the ground either.

Heres the agrument I have for not getting it done on the ground. We have no blocking, plain and simple. When theres no blocking on the ground, there are no holes and no yardage. Now while some things are still the fault of Portis/Playcalling, I just couldnt see a play where I could be like... WOW Portis sure messed up on that play.
On the other hand, I just found myself getting pissed at Brunell about 30 times tonight. Now while I'm sure half of those werent his fault, he did f**k up alot. Even though the protection sucked, he still had the chances to plant his feet and get rid of the football... but he didnt. I saw so many opprotunities for Brunell, and just didnt see the same for Portis.

Patrick Ramsey will not start next week or the week after unless Brunell is injured. I think right now this team has to look closely at the playcalling in situations that are hurry up offenses. Under pressure our offense has crumbled and this has been consistent for the past four weeks.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]You know I've read a lot of threads about Brunells performance instead of looking at the consistent disgusting performance of Portis. The excuses he has made and his failures has seriously damaged the offense because it has made our offense one dimesional. No running game, no passing game. We need a change at the running back position until Portis understands what he's suppose to be doing.[/QUOTE]
I knew this was comming. Sorry, but this last loss is all Brunell. And when the fumble for a TD occurred, that was Betts blocking, you cannot blame that one on Portis. Guess you are going to blame Portis, for when he got hit behind the line when Ed Reed came in on the safety blitz too?

How many more fumbles from brunell that lead to a touchdown do we need before we move to ramsey? Ramsey may have thrown the three picks in the Giants game but none of them turned into points for the other team...The future is now.

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Heres the agrument I have for not getting it done on the ground. We have no blocking, plain and simple. When theres no blocking on the ground, there are no holes and no yardage. Now while some things are still the fault of Portis/Playcalling, I just couldnt see a play where I could be like... WOW Portis sure messed up on that play.
On the other hand, I just found myself getting pissed at Brunell about 30 times tonight. Now while I'm sure half of those werent his fault, he did f**k up alot. Even though the protection sucked, he still had the chances to plant his feet and get rid of the football... but he didnt. I saw so many opprotunities for Brunell, and just didnt see the same for Portis.[/QUOTE]

My thing is why aren't the receivers getting open in four seconds? I know the offensive line is play hurt but Brunell is having to wait a long time to get rid of the ball. It just doesn't make since that every receiver seems to be double covered on almost every completion. Did you notice that?

[QUOTE=NY_Skinsfan]How many more fumbles from brunell that lead to a touchdown do we need before we move to ramsey? Ramsey may have thrown the three picks in the Giants game but none of them turned into points for the other team...The future is now.[/QUOTE]

They didn't turn into TD's for the REdskins so what's your point? We Lost.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]They didn't turn into TD's for the REdskins so what's your point? We Lost.[/QUOTE]


What do you mean what's my point, of course the interceptions didn't turn into TD's...they can't they're interceptions. But Ramsey in the offense has given up no points personally...Brunell has given up 21 points so far. That's my point.

Our offense has given up more TD's than our defense.

The line was even worse last year when Ramsey was in.

Also, why is it Portis' fault that Brunell isn't running the passing game effectively? I think the running game hasn't been effective because our passing game is inept. Defenses stack 9 guys in the box because they don't respect Brunell.

Not many backs are going to be successful when you've got 8 or 9 guys in the box on every play blitzing the crap our of us because we can't throw deep.

[QUOTE=DirtBagZ]I knew this was comming. Sorry, but this last loss is all Brunell. And when the fumble for a TD occurred, that was Betts blocking, you cannot blame that one on Portis. Guess you are going to blame Portis, for when he got hit behind the line when Ed Reed came in on the safety blitz too?[/QUOTE]

If Portis worked for you at 250,000 a game what would your response be to him? No. I'm blaming him for his poor execution in reading the defense and hitting the hole hard. His runs are no way near what he did in Denver. Even the sorry ass Giants know that Tiki is carrying there team on offense. Three fumbles have led to 2 TDS from Portis. Brunell has thrown 1 INT this year and the forced fumbles were clearly on the raggedy line.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]You know I've read a lot of threads about Brunells performance instead of looking at the consistent disgusting performance of Portis. The excuses he has made and his failures has seriously damaged the offense because it has made our offense one dimesional. No running game, no passing game. We need a change at the running back position until Portis understands what he's suppose to be doing.[/QUOTE]

couldn't disagree with you more 'Ra. Portis has been thrown into a meat grinder. literally. new system, new oline, new philosophy.

i dont know if you were watching tonight, but what little offense we had was mostly Portis. ground AND air. ALSO. you probably didn't notice we used the I FORMATION this game! Cooley lined up as a fullback to lead block, as is best for what Portis does. now Cooley is a catching TE, and is LEARNING to block, period. much less from the fullback position. even LESS against the Ravens defense! so, we didn't get many yards. but he DID take the initial hit off Portis, and we got NO FUMBLES from the previous week's one back system.

i dont know how anyone can doubt Portis's ability OR heart. in pass protection, he throws himself into EVERY block (and it WORKS). as a short yardage guy, he throws his tiny body into non-existent holes (which obviously doesnt). one thing Portis can't do is gain 50lbs! nor lead block for himself or make holes for himself!!

the offense is broken everywhere, Portis's numbers are a symptom, NOT a cause. now lets get back on topic..

These same wideouts didn't seem to have a huge problem getting open last year. Have you considered that Brunell just isn't reading and throwing well?