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[quote=Giantone;547187]He really has only made two mistakes............

1)Not letting football people do their job..........

2)Listening to anything Vinnie Cerroto has to say.

...............that is only an outsiders opinion.[/quote]

It may be an outsider's opinion but it is a good one.

Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era?
 

[quote=Schneed10;547096]5) Letting Antonio Pierce walk. The guy was the brain and spinal cord of our defense. And he's really hurt us in every game against the Giants since.

4) Hiring Spurrier. He clearly didn't take the NFL seriously.

3) Adam Archuleta - Nobody did their homework on this guy, he couldn't do what GW needed him to do.

2) Deion Sanders.

1) Jeff George - We had a pretty good thing going with Brad Johnson, we bring this bozo in and it disrupted our entire offense. Terrible fit, terrible leader.[/quote]

I think you have the best list so far.

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I know I'm just repeating things others have said, but here's my list.

1) Firing Casserly instead of Norv. I put this at number 1. Casserly was no genius, but Norv should have been fired at the first opportunity. I actually have no blame for Snyder for his before-the-end-of-the-season firing of Norv.

2) Hiring Spurrier.

3) The Williams/Fassel episode. I realize that this is hard to label a "move," since it obviously did not result in a signing. However, I think few things made Snyder look more incompetent than the whole coach hiring process. Williams was kept in the dark for far too long, news sources were beginning to mock the drama surrounding the process, and then Fassel was reportedly just on the verge of getting signed before a fan backlash allegedly forced Snyder to back off. Even if that last element was not really true, the fact that it was not considered entirely unbelievable says quite a bit about Snyder.

4) The 2000 signing bonanza.

5) Re-hiring Cerrato.

I agree that Pierce should not have been let go, and I'd otherwise be inclined to put that on my list but for the fact that I'm not sure the blame is entirely Snyder's on that end. Is that what others think? That Gibbs and Cerrato had nothing to do with that?

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Spurrier, was that really such a bad move or one that just did not work? Its easy now to see it was a bad move but if I'm correct alot of people thought Spurrier was going to be a great NFL coach.

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[quote=firstdown;547513]Spurrier, was that really such a bad move or one that just did not work? Its easy now to see it was a bad move but if I'm correct alot of people thought Spurrier was going to be a great NFL coach.[/quote]

Spurrier would have been someone's mistake eventually. Snyder just accelerated his rise to the NFL by throwing him a boatload of $$.

Re: Worst 5 Moves of Snyder era?
 

[quote=Giantone;547187]He really has only made two mistakes............

1)Not letting football people do their job..........

2)Listening to anything Vinnie Cerroto has to say.

...............that is only an outsiders opinion.[/quote]

That's about right.

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1) Adam Archuleta - the worst free agent pickup by any team, ever!
2) Deion Sanders - no tackling, showboating, often-injured, waste of a uniform, Cowturd
3) Brandon Lloyd - can't catch a cold!
4) T.J. Duckett- Tip toe through the tulips...through the tulips.
5) Antonio Pierce - just as he became a stud, moneybags didn't resign him.

Dan Snyder, Dumb and Vinny Cerano, Dumber.

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;547502]I know I'm just repeating things others have said, but here's my list.

1) Firing Casserly instead of Norv. I put this at number 1. Casserly was no genius, but Norv should have been fired at the first opportunity. I actually have no blame for Snyder for his before-the-end-of-the-season firing of Norv.

2) Hiring Spurrier.

3) The Williams/Fassel episode. I realize that this is hard to label a "move," since it obviously did not result in a signing. However, I think few things made Snyder look more incompetent than the whole coach hiring process. Williams was kept in the dark for far too long, news sources were beginning to mock the drama surrounding the process, and then Fassel was reportedly just on the verge of getting signed before a fan backlash allegedly forced Snyder to back off. Even if that last element was not really true, the fact that it was not considered entirely unbelievable says quite a bit about Snyder.

4) The 2000 signing bonanza.

5) Re-hiring Cerrato.

I agree that Pierce should not have been let go, and I'd otherwise be inclined to put that on my list but for the fact that I'm not sure the blame is entirely Snyder's on that end. Is that what others think? That Gibbs and Cerrato had nothing to do with that?[/quote]

Yes, you are right. The whole coach hiring sequence may have been the biggest fiasco of all. Hiring the assistant coaches before the head coach, therefore limiting who might want the job. That was real intelligent.

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1. Not hiring a legit football GM to run things OR letting VC kind of run things

2. Firing Marty S after giving him full control then trying to take it back

3. Duckett trade (absolutely a fleecing) by Atl

4. Brunell contract and draft pick: Boatload of money, too old, and a pick

5. Jeff George. We had a good thing going in 99 w/ Brad Johnson.

Maybe AA, SS, BLloyd need to be up there too.

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1. Firing Shottenhiemer
2. Hiring Spurrier
3. Re-Hiring Cerrato
4. Trading Champ
5. Some other random act

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According to Snyder "one of my worst moves"
(9/1/2006Washingtonian Magazine Article)
[url=http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/sports/1679.html]The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com)[/url]

Snyder took over the Washington Redskins on July 14, 1999. He inherited Norv Turner as coach and Charley Casserly as general manager.
“They were fighting like cats and dogs,” he says. “We were in trouble. I couldn’t have these two guys sniping at one another.”
So he fired Casserly in September.
“You fired the wrong guy,” Casserly told him.
“If you’re right,” Snyder shot back, “you’ll be one of the first to know.”
Snyder also fired a bunch of longtime front-office workers. He brought in his own PR team, lead by Karl Swanson.
Hoping for a quick trip to the Super Bowl, he paid big money for aging stars Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders.
Snyder stuck with Norv Turner through the 1999 season, which was lackluster. With three games left in the 2000 season, the Redskins had a 7–6 record, and Snyder lost patience. He called Turner into his office at 11 am on December 4 and let him go.
[B]“It was one of my worst moves,”[/B] he says. “It was plain stupid. I was a new owner pissed about losing.”
It was also the first move that showed fans and reporters Dan Snyder’s impatient side. In business, Snyder could replace a manager in the dead of night with a phone call. The Redskins were considered a public utility, and every move was blared in the media and dissected on sports-radio talk shows.
After Snyder fired Turner, he says, he called Casserly and said, “You were right.”

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[quote=Defensewins;547613]According to Snyder "one of my worst moves" he made
(9/1/2006Washingtonian Magazine Article)
[URL="http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/sports/1679.html"]The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com)[/URL]

Snyder took over the Washington Redskins on July 14, 1999. He inherited Norv Turner as coach and Charley Casserly as general manager.
“They were fighting like cats and dogs,” he says. “We were in trouble. I couldn’t have these two guys sniping at one another.”
So he fired Casserly in September.
“You fired the wrong guy,” Casserly told him.
“If you’re right,” Snyder shot back, “you’ll be one of the first to know.”
Snyder also fired a bunch of longtime front-office workers. He brought in his own PR team, lead by Karl Swanson.
Hoping for a quick trip to the Super Bowl, he paid big money for aging stars Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders.
Snyder stuck with Norv Turner through the 1999 season, which was lackluster. With three games left in the 2000 season, the Redskins had a 7–6 record, and Snyder lost patience. He called Turner into his office at 11 am on December 4 and let him go.
[B]“It was one of my worst moves,”[/B] he says. “It was plain stupid. I was a new owner pissed about losing.”
It was also the first move that showed fans and reporters Dan Snyder’s impatient side. In business, Snyder could replace a manager in the dead of night with a phone call. The Redskins were considered a public utility, and every move was blared in the media and dissected on sports-radio talk shows.
After Snyder fired Turner, he says, he called Casserly and said, “You were right.”[/quote]

1999 Lackluster? Compared to what? The '98 Vikings or '07 Patriots? That was a fun team. I still contend that if Andy Heck wasn't injured, forcing Kip fing Vickers into action against Simeon Rice the Skins win that game against Tampa and go to the NFC Championship. Forget the botched snap, Vickers lost the game. [end flashback].

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;547595][B]1) Adam Archuleta - the worst free agent pickup by any team, ever![/B]
2) Deion Sanders - no tackling, showboating, often-injured, waste of a uniform, Cowturd
[B]3) Brandon Lloyd - can't catch a cold![/B]
[B]4) T.J. Duckett- Tip toe through the tulips...through the tulips.[/B]
5) Antonio Pierce - just as he became a stud, moneybags didn't resign him.

Dan Snyder, Dumb and Vinny Cerano, Dumber.[/quote]

I think what's sad about this, is that these happened during Gibbs 2.0, which makes me wonder during these pick ups, how did the decision-making process worked?

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;547615]1999 Lackluster? Compared to what? The '98 Vikings or '07 Patriots? That was a fun team. I still contend that if Andy Heck wasn't injured, forcing Kip fing Vickers into action against Simeon Rice the Skins win that game against Tampa and go to the NFC Championship. Forget the botched snap, Vickers lost the game. [end flashback].[/quote]

You may be right about Vickers but my visual memory of that botched snap still hurts and my face likely still scrunches in disbelief.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;547615]1999 Lackluster? Compared to what? The '98 Vikings or '07 Patriots? That was a fun team. I still contend that if Andy Heck wasn't injured, forcing Kip fing Vickers into action against Simeon Rice the Skins win that game against Tampa and go to the NFC Championship. Forget the botched snap, Vickers lost the game. [end flashback].[/quote]

Yeah '99 was a fun team, on offense at least.

I think the lackluster part was meant to be in reference to 2000.