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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;533774]Redskins Outsider shows that we are interested in Daniels too.

I like Evans and Daniels because both can play inside and out.[/quote]

Coaches have certain players that they want with them all the time. Daniels is that guy for Blache. But at 36 an coming off major knee surgery, maybe someone should overrule and say let's move on.

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[quote=SmootSmack;533784]Coaches have certain players that they want with them all the time. Daniels is that guy for Blache. But at 36 an coming off major knee surgery, maybe someone should overrule and say let's move on.[/quote]

Kind of like Buges and Jansen.

Who knows, they may just have the lines of communication open since Evans is a maybe.

I am being lazy but how many d-lineman do they usually carry?

re: Update: Evans Signs with Niners
 

[quote=The Goat;533762]LOL i didn't see this before i posted... did u change your mind or just didn't want to overpay for Evans?[/quote]My assumption (an incorrect assumption) was 1) that Evans was going to get a contract similar to the one Antonio Smith got with Houston, 2) San Francisco was going to pay him like that because they see him (incorrectly) as a nice 3-4 end, and 3) We'd be fools to match that offer.

Evans is no less mediocre now than he was yesterday, but if the going rate is 2/4, then holy crap why would we not match? In football terms, that's a half step above free.

re: Update: Evans Signs with Niners
 

[quote=SmootSmack;533733]With Taylor gone, it makes sense to bring him back. And I guess he'd have been given assurances he'd start if brought back. So then you get Smith/Oher in the first round and Freeman in the 3rd.[/quote]

That's where i would draw the line. I don't feel as an organization you should make guarantees regarding starting, being rotated in, or flat out sitting the bench. We pay you to do what we tell you to do, baring in mind all of the restrictions in place provided by the player's association.

Here's why in an example: We draft a young guy that really just blossoms by week 4. The coaches are going to feel obligated to continue to start Demetric because of his contract. Furthermore, most coaches try to instill a sense of competitiveness for all of the starting positions. It's good for morale, and it encourages effort.

I think it's flat out stupid to guarantee ANYONE a starting job in their contract.

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Demetric Evans = Ryan Clark in 2005 and this time I wouldn't count on a guy like Laron Landry falling to us to replace him. Then again good left ends are about as easy to find as safetys so it's not like we can't find anyone. Still would be nice to see if we could get Michael Johnson out of Georgia Tech in a trade down, assuming of course that he has the size to play LE, as we don't want another Jason Taylor type deal where we put a RE at LE.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;533800]Demetric Evans = Ryan Clark in 2005 and this time I wouldn't count on a guy like Laron Landry falling to us to replace him. Then again good left ends are about as easy to find as safetys so it's not like we can't find anyone. Still would be nice to see if we could get Michael Johnson out of Georgia Tech in a trade down, assuming of course that he has the size to play LE, as we don't want another Jason Taylor type deal where we put a RE at LE.[/quote]

Give me Tyson Jackson over Johnson

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;533726]But what's JLC's take on it?? that's where the real nuggets are! ;)[/quote]

JLC is the nugget that won't flush down the toilet! LOL.

re: Update: Evans Signs with Niners
 

[quote=GTripp0012;533798]My assumption (an incorrect assumption) was 1) that Evans was going to get a contract similar to the one Antonio Smith got with Houston, 2) San Francisco was going to pay him like that because they see him (incorrectly) as a nice 3-4 end, and 3) We'd be fools to match that offer.

Evans is no less mediocre now than he was yesterday, but if the going rate is 2/4, then holy crap why would we not match? In football terms, that's a half step above free.[/quote]

I agree wholeheartedly. 2M a year is a bargain and the fact that it would only be a two year deal almost makes this a no-brainer. Since, as a practical matter, two year deals are essentially one year deals where the team has the option for the 2nd year... so the contract benefits the skins greatly. it also benefits Evans greatly because - if he does well with haynesworth by his side, he could easily negotiate a more lucrative contract extension with us in the offseason.

This is a deal that needs to get done. The skins may have actually been wise to not offer Evans a deal and let him test the market. its certainly brought down his price. This is a case where i'm happy to admit i was wrong.

re: Update: Evans Signs with Niners
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;533763]I would have thought he could get more than that since he has Drew on his side and Canty signed for 7 million a year.

I definitely think that Evans and Canty are compareable.

[B]BTW. Huge plus that he left town without a deal. I view that as the skins have the last say in this[/B].[/quote]

I agree. If we want him he's ours.

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Daniels and Evans should both come back. They are good on this team and it's not like they haven't played well for us before. They know the scheme and are good stop gaps for a year or two.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;533775]Sounds like Haynesworth can play some DE. He is the best at whatever he plays. DT, DE, K, P, beer vendor etc.[/quote]

I know he's pretty good at stomping on cowboys

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[quote=SmootSmack;533733]With Taylor gone, it makes sense to bring him back. And I guess he'd have been given assurances he'd start if brought back. So then you get Smith/Oher in the first round and Freeman in the 3rd.[/quote]

Sounds like someone else is on the same page w/me....
Freeman will make a good OLB,perfect pick in the 3rd

re: Update: Evans Signs with Niners
 

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;533763]I would have thought he could get more than that since he has Drew on his side and Canty signed for 7 million a year.

I definitely think that Evans and Canty are compareable.

BTW. Huge plus that he left town without a deal. I view that as the skins have the last say in this.[/quote]
I don't think we will get a "hometown discount" and I believe Vinnie is gonna overpay him(what choice do we have), but I am sure he will sign here Friday.

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[quote=SmootSmack;533802]Give me Tyson Jackson over Johnson[/quote]

Puh-leeze. Look at this collection of good plays, I mean highlight film. Interesting tidbit though, the announcer at one point says that in terms of frame Johnson reminds him of Calias Campbell so if that holds up Johnson definately has the frame to play LE in the NFL. You'll see that he lines up at LE in about 50% of the snaps in this video.

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Then again Jackson did take down Tebow. I don't know both look pretty good but Johnson seems to have more potential as a Sack Artist

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Just heard on ComCast the Redskins could also be interested in Renaldo Wynn. Presumably if we don't sign Evans.