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[quote=Mattyk72;421137]CJ still has a few quality years left, at 30 he could easily go another 4-5 years at his current level of play. Not saying I want him, just saying.[/quote]


that's a good point TO is 34

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[QUOTE=firstdown;421078]Maybe we could pull out the mega trade and give up Brandon Lloyd for Chad.[/QUOTE]

Only if we can get Chad to renegotiate his salary to the veterans minimum.:cool-smil

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;421165]Only if we can get Chad to renegotiate his salary to the veterans minimum.:cool-smil[/QUOTE]

Or maybe a sign a trade of Cartwright for LT? ;)

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Yup. People are completely misreading a newspaper article and starting an exaggerated thread fueled mainly by panic and ignorance...just like old times indeed.

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[quote=SmootSmack;421170]Yup. People are completely misreading a newspaper article and starting an exaggerated thread fueled mainly by panic and ignorance...just like old times indeed.[/quote]

Did those old times ever go away?

Sounds like the same old, same old.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;421140]that's a good point TO is 34[/quote]

Yep, and Moss is 31 this year, Reggie Wayne 30, and Torry Holt 32. That's half of the top 10 receivers in the league (including 4 of the top 5 in yardage). I have no problem getting a 30-year old receiver if he can be productive.

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I think what is getting people is the amount of info JLC threw into the post.

First off most of it is not hards news but rather source based speculation.
Second, I think we can pretty much expect not everything to happen even though most of the moves make complete sense.

This is what every team does. At the end of the season and the beginning of the off season they look at thier roster and figure out what needs to be fixed and what ways they can fix them. I can't say I disagree at all with what they apparently feel needs fixing.

Face it at some spots we are simply old and have serious injury risk/concern. We are an NFL team and this is the way it goes.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;421052]Where did you see an overhaul in that article? Don't fall into the media trap of 'here we go again' because some people are coming in and some people are leaving, that's the nature of the NFL..

Chad Johnson is a Pro Bowl WR in his prime.. He just turned 30 a couple of weeks ago, averaged 90+ catches the past 6 yrs, over 1200 yds and 7 TD each of those years.. Lance Briggs is someone the FO has a hard on for at the LB position and he can come in and be a starter for years. McIntosh is coming off of an injury and Washington is coming off of 2 consecutive injury plagued seasons and is likely in his final year as a Redskin.

Other than those 2 names, the FO is looking at adding depth across the board..[/QUOTE]


I agree...I read that particular article before I went to bed last night, and from what I gather it speaks nothing of an overhaul. It apears as though the team is preparing to move foreward which is the normal course of events that seperate one season from the next.

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I felt pretty good after reading the article. What I got from it was the Dan making necessary changes to make the team better.

CJ would be a great addition. I'm just not sure he is needed. When healthy, Moss can still be a deep threat, and can still put up numbers as good as Chad. Though I do agree that we need a big physical type WR.

If we are going to give up multiple draft picks for one player, I'd much rather it be for a stud pass rusher or DB.

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[quote]CJ would be a great addition. I'm just not sure he is needed. When healthy, Moss can still be a deep threat, and can still put up numbers as good as Chad.[/quote]

If by putting up numbers, you mean drops. I'm with you.

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After watching Moss fumble, drop passes, and limp his way through last season I've lost most of my faith in him as a #1 WR. He would be much better suited as a #2, and ARE as the #3.

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I think that alot of times we think Dan is overhauling all the time, but that is because we have too many head coaching changes. If we can get coaching positions stabilized, we will be fine. A new coach probably will have different styles than the previous (I sure hope so in this case!!), so maybe Zorn wants him in there. If Dan wasn't aggressive in getting players, people would complain, and now he is determined to build a winner and do it at all cost, and people complain.

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I say no to Briggs and no to Chad Johnson. If we could somehow get Johnson in a good deal then that would be my first choice. Linebackers are a dime a dozen. Briggs wants way way way too much money and Johnson probably does too. Johnson is the player that could dramatically help our team though.

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I am sort of the other way around. Defense wins Championships (Ask NE). Briggs would bring great stability to a suspect linebacking core. McIntosh shaky return time, Godfrey talking retirement or going to Jax with Williams, Marcus Washington has been hurt over the last three years. We can get a WR in the draft.

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letting rock go is the most disturbing part of that article. It's just another example of how dumb & dumber have no clue how to build a team. All that interests them is fantasy stats...guys who catch the ball guys who throw the ball and defenders who sack the QB. That's how they think. Good teams are made up of guys like Rock who think team first and do their job well. That's not exciting enough for the Danny...