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Griffin is done?

Dude just turned 30.

He's no spring chicken but I think he's far from done.

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[quote=Mattyk72;298785]Griffin is done?

Dude just turned 30.

He's no spring chicken but I think he's far from done.[/quote]

I dont know if he is done due to age, but his performance has been way below expected.

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[QUOTE=hooskins;298790]I dont know if he is done due to age, but his performance has been way below expected.[/QUOTE]

I hear what you're saying Hoo, but couldn't we say the same thing for the entire defense?

He had a decent year in 05......I wouldn't write him off yet.

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[quote=hooskins;298790]I dont know if he is done due to age, but his performance has been way below expected.[/quote]

Grif isn't done by any stretch. He has several good years left, the entire Defense was awful last year. Mostly due to injuries/no depth and the guys that can't be good won't be around. Holdman,Rumph,Arch,etc........

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the only position in the draft this year that is really strong is defensive line. well, guess what? thats exactly what the skins need. if branch wasn't a lazy slob, he would be the pick. but the skins almost cant go wrong drafting any of the top 5 d linemen

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[QUOTE=irish;298709]There is no way this organization will draft a defensive lineman. It's just not attractive and exciting enough of a position to make the kind of media splash this organization craves.

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But Irish, football has changed. Fans are so sophisticated now, what with Madden, NFL Network, and around the clock coverage, they understand the importance of defense, oline, etc. How many Skins fans booed in 2004 when we chose a safety over an explosive tight end? My Dad did, but he's from the 1960's.

How often do you go talk to a guy with a Skins hat in the bar and he doesn't know what he's talking about? That NEVER happens!

People talk about Snyder's marketing brilliance and his ability to keep the fan base excited every year, despite a lack of success on the field. Well how much of this new free agent austerity this season is a response to outrage from the fan base over some of last year's moves? I would argue at least some (Lance Briggs notwithstanding).

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;298785]Griffin is done?

Dude just turned 30.

He's no spring chicken but I think he's far from done.[/QUOTE]

So it's impossible for a player to top out before age 30?

Let me clarify though. When I say Cornelius Griffin is "done", I mean he is done being the penetrating force we saw in '04 and '05. He's still serviceable, and we shouldn't kick him off the team or anything. But he definitely needs help. I'd be shocked if they intend to rely on him as the chief run-stopper past 2007.

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I like the switch with Atlanta plus a second cuz then they could get Landry and then a dlineman like Moss, Spencer, McDonald, or whomever else @dl that might be available when they'd make the 2nd round pick. plus pick up Ian Scott.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;298729]Besides, if they wanted to make a splash that badly they had plenty of chances to do so in free agency.

I don't see how they'll totally ignore need positions and go after a QB of all things.

That just makes no sense at all, even for this front office.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying it makes sense or would be a good move (it would be maybe the dumbest move from an organization that has akmost become synonomous with dumb moves) but I really believe if he's there it will hapen. There is no way Danny will be able to pass him up.

I just dont think there were any really big free agents this time that would create the media frenzy JR would and the skins are all about media frenzy. If the football works out thats a bonus.

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[quote=Beemnseven;298857]So it's impossible for a player to top out before age 30?

Let me clarify though. When I say Cornelius Griffin is "done", I mean he is done being the penetrating force we saw in '04 and '05. He's still serviceable, and we shouldn't kick him off the team or anything. But he definitely needs help. I'd be shocked if they intend to rely on him as the chief run-stopper past 2007.[/quote]

Of course it's not impossible.

When you said he's done, that to me sounded like you thought his playing days are over.

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[quote=irish;298914]I'm not saying it makes sense or would be a good move (it would be maybe the dumbest move from an organization that has akmost become synonomous with dumb moves) but I really believe if he's there it will hapen. There is no way Danny will be able to pass him up.

I just dont think there were any really big free agents this time that would create the media frenzy JR would and the skins are all about media frenzy. If the football works out thats a bonus.[/quote]

Lucky for you the chances of JR slipping to #6 are very slim.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;298916]Lucky for you the chances of JR slipping to #6 are very slim.[/QUOTE]

I think you mean lucky for the Skins. LOL

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Regardless, JR isn't falling that far and even if he did the Skins aren't taking him. That's like saying if Peterson falls to #6 they'll take him. Not gonna happen.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;298925]Regardless, JR isn't falling that far and even if he did the Skins aren't taking him. That's like saying if Peterson falls to #6 they'll take him. Not gonna happen.[/QUOTE]

I have been following this team long enough to know never to say never.

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irish, were you happy 2 seasons ago when the skins went to the playoffs?