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ramsey can't stay unless he's starting, otherwise he won't get a chance to prove his worth and he'll NEVER get a big contract. If he comes back he could easily end up losing 10+mill and any shot at ever being a starting QB outside injury. I know he's a nice guy, but if i were him i'd already have 3 or 4 potential deals lined up.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]ramsey can't stay unless he's starting, otherwise he won't get a chance to prove his worth and he'll NEVER get a big contract. If he comes back he could easily end up losing 10+mill and any shot at ever being a starting QB outside injury. I know he's a nice guy, but if i were him i'd already have 3 or 4 potential deals lined up.[/QUOTE]

Guy, no one has answered this one question for me.

With what team can he get a shot, and furthermore suppose he still ends up #2 with that team. That's a real possibilty.

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I think Ramsey could get a shot with the Dolphins, Raiders, Jets, Ravens, and Lions. He could probably compete for the Bills or Browns starting spot. Or be the heir apparent to Trent Green in KC or Kurt Warner in AZ

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There is no Doubt Ramsey is gone...done gibbs said quote" Ramsey Deserves a Fighting job some where else" and Arrington said quote " I want to be here " and i think dan snyder has enough money to keep him. its if he wants too

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[QUOTE=jdlea]I think Ramsey could get a shot with the Dolphins, Raiders, Jets, Ravens, and Lions. He could probably compete for the Bills or Browns starting spot. Or be the heir apparent to Trent Green in KC or Kurt Warner in AZ[/QUOTE]

He could also go to the Saints, and start there while they groom Leinart or Young. Brooks is definitely gone from the Saints

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I was thinking about the Saints, but the papers down here are saying whoever they draft will start next year

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These are teams that could use P-Ram IMO.

New York Jets - Ramsey/Coles reunited

Miami Dolphins - Good running game, and do you really think Ferotte is the future of that franchise?

Oakland Raiders - Plenty of weapons to throw to.

New Orleans Saints - Louisiana native.

Detroit Lions - Harrington is obviously done, and with a new coach coming in, who knows what happens to Garcia

Arizona Cardinals - Doubt Ramsey would want to go there.

Cleveland Browns - Is Charlie Frye the guy they want?

Tennessee Titans - Doubt it, since they'll probably draft a QB.

Minnesota Vikings - Looks like the Culpeper era is done there. Brad Johnson is like 37 or something.

Dallas Cowboys - God I would really hate it, but you never know

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]These are teams that could use P-Ram IMO.

New York Jets - Ramsey/Coles reunited

Miami Dolphins - Good running game, and do you really think Ferotte is the future of that franchise?

Oakland Raiders - Plenty of weapons to throw to.

New Orleans Saints - Louisiana native.

Detroit Lions - Harrington is obviously done, and with a new coach coming in, who knows what happens to Garcia

Arizona Cardinals - Doubt Ramsey would want to go there.

Cleveland Browns - Is Charlie Frye the guy they want?

Tennessee Titans - Doubt it, since they'll probably draft a QB.

Minnesota Vikings - Looks like the Culpeper era is done there. Brad Johnson is like 37 or something.

Dallas Cowboys - God I would really hate it, but you never know[/QUOTE]

The Cowboys were a team that I forgot. I've thought for a long time that Pat would probably be a good fit at QB there. Now, the problem I have is that I think Dallas would have considered giving up a first round pick when we got Brunell and now I don't think we'll see anywhere close to that.

However, as far as the Vikes are concerned, Brad Childress, the new head man in Minny said that he was committed to Culpepper.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]The Cowboys were a team that I forgot. I've thought for a long time that Pat would probably be a good fit at QB there. Now, the problem I have is that I think Dallas would have considered giving up a first round pick when we got Brunell and now I don't think we'll see anywhere close to that.

However, as far as the Vikes are concerned, Brad Childress, the new head man in Minny said that he was committed to Culpepper.[/QUOTE]


I'll be happy with a 3rd rounder for P-Ram.

Thanks for info on the Vikes. I know I heard rumors of a Miami/Minnesota trade for Culpeper, but I guess Childress made up his mind.

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I'd agree that a 3rd rounder would be the best they could hope for in exchange for Ramsey, but I think the market was there as soon as we picked up Brunell. I kinda wish, for his sake, that he had forced a trade then. I think that he can be successful in this league. If I were Ramsey I'd be intrigued by Miami, assuming they pursue TO like they said, Oakland and Baltimore.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Guy, no one has answered this one question for me.

With what team can he get a shot, and furthermore suppose he still ends up #2 with that team. That's a real possibilty.[/QUOTE]

others have listed them, there's at least 8 possibilities... and if he ends up the#2 or not, what matters is that he at least has a shot to earn himself some cash by going somewhere where the coaching staff will WANT him to start and give him a reasonable opportunity.

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]These are teams that could use P-Ram IMO.

New York Jets - Ramsey/Coles reunited

Miami Dolphins - Good running game, and do you really think Ferotte is the future of that franchise?

Oakland Raiders - Plenty of weapons to throw to.

New Orleans Saints - Louisiana native.

Detroit Lions - Harrington is obviously done, and with a new coach coming in, who knows what happens to Garcia

Arizona Cardinals - Doubt Ramsey would want to go there.

Cleveland Browns - Is Charlie Frye the guy they want?

Tennessee Titans - Doubt it, since they'll probably draft a QB.

Minnesota Vikings - Looks like the Culpeper era is done there. Brad Johnson is like 37 or something.

Dallas Cowboys - God I would really hate it, but you never know[/QUOTE]

This is an excellent list and it exemplifies Ramsey's dilemma. If you were running those teams would you be falling all over yourselves to get Patrick? Only as a backup or an interim solution while a youngster learned. We'll be lucky to get a third round pick for him. Every team has a backup. Name one that you would give up a quality player or high pick for. I can't think of one.

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[QUOTE=70Chip]This is an excellent list and it exemplifies Ramsey's dilemma. If you were running those teams would you be falling all over yourselves to get Patrick? Only as a backup or an interim solution while a youngster learned. We'll be lucky to get a third round pick for him. Every team has a backup. Name one that you would give up a quality player or high pick for. I can't think of one.[/QUOTE]

No I think that list shows that there are many teams that need a young QB!! A first rounder I don't see but a second or more then one draft pick could happen!!! But the real question is can we let him go? Look what happen to the Jets this season or Rams. A strong back up is a must llok at Jacksonville or other teams that had to fall back on #2 QB! Look at our own Giant game last month! I can see him[Ramsey] moving on only if a vet QB is traded for of a free agent!

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i say arrington cause he is one of the leaders on defense and we can do better than patrick ramsey :coach: