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That Guy 03-30-2016 11:38 PM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
so... trump wants to make thoughtcrime a real thing. that's cool.

NC_Skins 04-27-2016 11:20 PM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
This guy is something else. Naming Fiorina as his "running mate"? He's desperate as hell after getting his ass handed to him Tuesday by Trump. This guy should go ahead and bow out. It's over. Trump has a 991 to 568 lead on Cruz and Lyin Ted has no shot of winning. I think it's mathematically impossible for him to win.


[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/politics/ted-cruz-carly-fiorina.html?smid=fb-share[/url]




I loved how Trump responded...


[url]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/725396879723384832[/url]



:laughing-

That Guy 04-28-2016 02:26 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
they're just trying to stop trump from hitting 1237. if he can't get there, they can go to the convention, get a 2nd ballot and anyone can end up as the nominee. most of them would lose to clinton though... and most people don't even like her.

punch it in 04-28-2016 09:01 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1141189]It [I]will[/I] be Trump v. Hillary and the ultimate loser will be the Constitution. Each has, in their own way, made it clear - foundational document be damned - they will do what they will and, if you oppose them, you are either stupid or un-American.



<In my [I]Treasure of Sierra Madre[/I] bandit voice> "Constitution?! We don't need no stinkin' Constitution!"[/QUOTE]



So true but ill take her over that moron any day.

punch it in 04-28-2016 09:08 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
[QUOTE=over the mountain;1141134]Im not a fan of Trump but I think 99% of what he is saying is done for the sole purpose of winning over the angry red meat portion of this country. If trump for some god awful reason actually won the presidency .. Id bet he would be more liberal than Hillary.



The power of branding and social media is huge right now.



All these seminars I go to all say the same thing - to win people over, spoon feed them with simple thoughts. If you cant put it on a bumper sticker, you have not reduced it to its simplest most elementary level. If you speak in very simple terms and very simple thoughts, the human brain accepts what is said as true and stays on auto pilot.



The minute you start using big words or require a listener's brain to link thoughts together to arrive at a not-simple thought, that is the minute you have just awoken the listener's brain and now that brain will critically question everything you will say .. and if what you are now saying is not consistent with the listener's pre-established thought board ... you are in trouble, you have now lost the listener.



You have to know your audience. Then you have to stay on code.



Trump is just repeating red meat bumper sticker thoughts and sleep walking a large portion of republicans who hate RINOs. His new bumper sticker the past few weeks has been "you're so PC". I dont even know if Trump has a platform idea outside "build a wall". It doesnt matter. He stays on code as someone outside the establishment and he wins every voter who hates the government. His supporters literally wear tin foil hats.



Cruz is trying to to appeal to the slightly more awake republican voters by staying on code re. "the war against christianity", "the war against life (abortion)" and "the war against the 2A". He is just a layer or two less simple then trump.



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amazing, you can win an election just on a clever hashtag alone.[/QUOTE]



Interesting thought, but I think you are giving Trump too much credit. Is he clueless- yes. Is there a method behind that cluelessness - Me thinks not.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-28-2016 09:33 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
If I'm a Trump supporter, this idea of "being more presidential" would be very concerning to me. The people who like him, like him because he's a total dick-hole. If suddenly he changes if he wins the nomination, I'd be like, "Yo, what's up with this bait and switch shit?"

MTK 04-28-2016 10:09 AM

Republican nominee for President
 
Cruz and Fiorina... Two completely despicable humans. Perfect match.

punch it in 04-28-2016 10:23 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1141092]Since when is assault and battery legal?? Are you in your right mind?



Disrupters do not "have it coming" unless by that you mean they deserve to be shouted down. Anybody who strikes a protester at those Trump rallies is breaking the law.[/QUOTE]



Ok so you actually aren't so bad after all. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106] lol

punch it in 04-28-2016 10:32 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1140912]Nice summary. I was heavy on the Bernie bandwagon for a little bit but I've backed off it recently. I still feel he's the best of the 3 but I'm not as enthusiastic about him as I was. Even if he does win though does anybody really think Congress will let him push through his plans? I feel this election takes away focus on the fact that the Prez and Congress basically cancel each other out on everything, how many major programs have passed with the approval of both Congress and the Prez in the last 8 years? Also I honestly can't believe in this day and age that Drumpf is the best that the repubs have to represent this country. He's the loudest voice in the room, yet he says nothing of substance.[/QUOTE]



This says it all. It really does not matter who becomes elected except for who i have to hear and see talk for at least four years. Please God do not let it be the loudmouth, silver spoon, moronic, racist, piece of shit.

NC_Skins 05-03-2016 08:01 PM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
Think Trump puts the nail into Cruz's coffin tonight in Indiana? I do.

NC_Skins 05-03-2016 09:09 PM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
Yup. It did.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/us/politics/ted-cruz.html?smid=fb-share[/url]


Wonder if he's going to announce his cabinet spots now?

Chico23231 05-05-2016 09:31 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/tony-blair--the-whole-world-has-a-donald-trump-problem-211738120.html[/url]

Tony Blair has always been one of my favorites simply because of his succinct, common sense opinion. He doesn't give grandiose, long wind explanation.

He sums up the current political phenomenon perfectly:


Tony Blair: The whole world has a Donald Trump problem


John Kasich suspended his campaign, and Ted Cruz dropped out last night. It is now likely that Donald Trump will clinch the Republican nomination and move on to the general election.

Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders, however, is still hanging on in his battle against frontrunner Hillary Clinton. Sanders, who won the Democratic primary in Indiana last night, celebrated by tweeting “The political revolution wins!” to his two million followers.

Former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair has been paying close attention to the Trump and Sanders races and has some thoughts on the popularity of the unconventional candidates.

“[B]There are insurgent movements to the right and the left that are very populist, very charged with emotion. They’ve come out of people’s anger—they feel that the system isn’t responding to their needs,” he says. [/B]
[B]It’s a global phenomenon, according to Blair. “This is going on in the U.S. with Donald Trump on the one side and Bernie Sanders on the other side, but frankly it’s happening all over Europe,”[/B] he says. Blair’s own center-left Labour Party has struggled to find its voice recently. The party is projected to lose 175 council seats in local elections Thursday, which would mark the worst Labour performance in 35 years.

As wealth stratification rises in the U.S. and through Europe, Blair says the middle class feels underrepresented by government. Nontraditional politicians are picking up on that anger and using it to boost their campaigns, but Blair warns that “anger and answers are two different things, and ultimately we need answers.” Blair worries that the popularity of populist politicians will lead to policy that is harmful to the U.S.

Isolationism would be a disaster for the West, Blair says. “If you start shutting down free trade, you’re not going to create new jobs. You may think you are, but you’re not,” he says. Trump has spoken out against trade agreements such as NAFTA and plans to tighten immigration policy.

Blair says the next U.S. president must be fully engaged in world affairs. “There are new powers arising, there are big challenges around geopolitics, and I want to see an America that’s strong and engaged and providing leadership.”

Centrist politicians, he adds, “need to get their mojo back.” Blair [B]believes they come across as stale and out-of-date to disgruntled voters. Candidates, he says, can no longer have a “this is complicated, leave it to us,” attitude.[/B]

“People are looking at the U.S. and scratching their heads a little bit, [but] it’s happening everywhere,” says Blair



Our political atmosphere is very much anger and emotion.

I really wish folks could get through the emotions, loses their bias and embrace objectivity and simply talk facts, policy and solutions.

NC_Skins 05-05-2016 03:54 PM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
[quote=Chico23231;1143483] They’ve come out of people’s anger—[B]they feel that the system isn’t responding to their needs,” he says. [/B] [/quote]


That's because they system ISN'T responding to their needs. People are sick and tired of it.

[quote=Chico23231;1143483]As wealth stratification rises in the U.S. and through Europe, Blair says the middle class feels underrepresented by government. Nontraditional politicians are picking up on that anger and using it to boost their campaigns, but Blair warns that “anger and answers are two different things, and ultimately we need answers.” Blair worries that the popularity of populist politicians will lead to policy that is harmful to the U.S.

Isolationism would be a disaster for the West, Blair says. “If you start shutting down free trade, you’re not going to create new jobs. You may think you are, but you’re not,” he says. Trump has spoken out against trade agreements such as NAFTA and plans to tighten immigration policy. [/quote]

He mentions the wealth disparency, yet then turns around and champions for "free trade". Is this guy a complete fucking moron? Does he understand the ramifications of NAFTA or what any other free trade agreements will do? It'll crush middle class families even more and just divide that gap between the rich and poor even greater. Blair is a corporate shill much like the lot of them.




[quote=Chico23231;1143483]Blair says the next U.S. president must be fully engaged in world affairs. “There are new powers arising, there are big challenges around geopolitics, and I want to see an America that’s strong and engaged and providing leadership.”[/quote]

Ah yes, we need more wars to fight! Thanks Blair.

[quote=Chico23231;1143483]Centrist politicians, he adds, “need to get their mojo back.” Blair [B]believes they come across as stale and out-of-date to disgruntled voters. Candidates, he says, can no longer have a “this is complicated, leave it to us,” attitude.[/B][/quote]


Centrists don't need their mojo back. They need to stop ignoring the people and start representing them instead of the corporate/wealthy donors that give to their campaign.


[quote=Chico23231;1143483]I really wish folks could get through the emotions, loses their bias and embrace objectivity and simply talk facts, policy and solutions.[/quote]

What a load of shit. The facts are the politicians are a bunch of crooked thieves putting money into their pockets (or off shore accounts) and selling out the people they claim to represent. Those are the facts.

Giantone 05-06-2016 07:45 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
Have any of you seen these yet ,the reaction is mixed.I like them.



[url=http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump]Clinton Releases a Brutal Anti-Trump Ad | Mother Jones[/url]

punch it in 05-06-2016 09:46 AM

Re: Republican nominee for President
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;1143531]Have any of you seen these yet ,the reaction is mixed.I like them.







[url=http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/hillary-clinton-wont-let-republicans-forget-never-trump]Clinton Releases a Brutal Anti-Trump Ad | Mother Jones[/url][/QUOTE]



So true though. If you do not know that guy is a moron after three seconds of listening to him speak than you probably need therapy too. Lol


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