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[quote=NC_Skins;988361]I do think Brady is clutch, but I think his defense gives him more opportunities on the field. Also, he's lost the last 2 super bowls, does that make him less clutch than what he was before?


I'll ask you the same question. Brady is having to face off on the #27 ranked defense to move on in the playoffs. Manning is having to face off on the #5 defense to move on in the playoffs. Which one of these guys will face a harder time moving on? Does Tom have it easier or does Peyton? If both of these QBs are equal, which one do you suspect to move on?

It's quite simple deduction. Peyton hasn't fared as well because he simply was facing stiffer competition than Brady.[/quote]
You make it seem like Brady has only faced the worst defenses on his way towards his rings whereas Manning has only faced the sternest competition. If the Patriots lose next week against a common opponent because Brady has a pick 6, a fumble, and an int in OT then maybe you'll have some validity to your argument, but the fact is Brady has lead his team to 6 game winning drives during the playoffs vs 1 for Manning. When it's mattered most Brady has shown he's who you should want orchestrating that final drive.

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[quote=Mattyk;988366]Except when he plays the other Mannng of course.[/quote]

Good one!

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[quote=Mattyk;988366]Except when he plays the other Mannng of course.[/quote]

Yeah if people want to talk about a playoff clutch Manning, they should be talking about Eli, not Peyton. The dude is like freakin Houdini sometimes pulling wins out his ass.

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[quote=Mattyk;988366]Except when he plays the other Mannng of course.[/quote]


Was about to add......unless the Giants are playing. :laughing-

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Some people just don't want to recognize greatness. I'm stubborn in this regards to Lebron and whole heartedly admit it.

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I think after seeing Manning and Brady the past two days, I've noticed one thing; Manning tries to do too much because he doesn't trust his defense putting away an opponent, whereas Brady trusts his defense, considering their being coached by one of the best Defensive Coordinators to coach the game (BB).

Take yesterdays game for example, manning throws the ball across his body doing something he know he shouldn't do, because 10 minutes earlier his ''vaunted'' defense misjudged a ball for a 60+ yard TD pass.

Brady knew his defense would make the Texans one dimensional by taking away the run and make Schaub beat them. So he already had a good chance of winning, just don't do something stupid, and he would win the game.

I firmly believe that if Peytons on New England in the 00's and Bradys on the Colts, Peyton would have 3 rings, Brady would have 1. Defense can dictate how a game is played by both sides.

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Manning is a master of chess style offense, where he is the grand strategist. And in the regular season, that beats most of the NFL defenses most of the time, but in the playoffs, when all the opponents have some level of competence, and parts that are highly effective, he struggles.

Brady is more of the working man's elite qb. He isn't going to "out think" the opponent. He's going to go out and beat you with what he has.

In a playoff comparison between the 2, I (and most everyone else I think) would take Brady to lead a team thru every time.

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[quote=Mattyk;988366]Except when he plays the other Mannng of course.[/quote]

Eli manning and Peyton manning are interesting brothers.
Ones great in the regular season and in the postseason is mediocre.
Then ones great in the postseason and mediocre in the regular season

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Just a thought:

I know we're a team with real needs both on offense and defense.

At the same time, we are only a healthy RG3 away from playing in the Super Bowl. There's no question in my mind that we would have handled Seattle and could have beaten the birds on Atlanta with our QB even close to full speed.

Kind of amazing when you think about it. And something to keep in mind as we plod through the long off season.

HTTR

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Manning and Brady are two of the best QBs to ever play the game. That we get to see both of them is amazing. And I, for one, don't know why we can't just appreciate that

Meanwhile, can you believe that every losing team this weekend scored at least 4 TDs?

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[quote=SmootSmack;988378]Manning and Brady are two of the best QBs to ever play the game. That we get to see both of them is amazing. And I, for one, don't know why we can't just appreciate that

Meanwhile, can you believe that every losing team this weekend scored at least 4 TDs?[/quote]

I agree. Aaron Rogers seems like the next quarterback the be he great one for this decade. The endings to the Baltimore and Atlanta wins were amazing. Talk about not giving up.

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[quote=SmootSmack;988378]Manning and Brady are two of the best QBs to ever play the game. That we get to see both of them is amazing. And I, for one, don't know why we can't just appreciate that

[B]Meanwhile, can you believe that every losing team this weekend scored at least 4 TDs[/B]?[/quote]

interesting. its an arms race on the offensive side of the ball. the slow grind it out ways of the past are going the way of the buffalo.

too bad about Gronk being out the rest of the playoffs. guess he'll just have to party it out in the clubs the rest of the season.

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[quote=donofriose;988374]eli manning and peyton manning are interesting brothers.
Ones great in the regular season and in the postseason is mediocre.
Then ones great in the postseason and mediocre in the regular season[/quote]

lol!

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[quote=donofriose;988374]Eli manning and Peyton manning are interesting brothers.
Ones great in the regular season and in the postseason is mediocre.
Then ones great in the postseason and mediocre in the regular season[/quote]

Makes you wonder how Cooper would have been

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[quote=CultBrennan59;988387]Makes you wonder how Cooper would have been[/quote]I feel sorry for him at Thanksgiving and Christmas get-togethers, even if all the Mannings are cool about it. lol.

'Course wiki say he's partner in a New Orleans energy investment firm. So not too shabby as well.