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[quote=SmootSmack;820567]I like Locklear...but would prefer more interior depth. Not convinced that Hicks can bounce back from his struggles in 2010[/quote]

I like the signing as well. Didn't he play guard his first year in Seattle?

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I mean they're saying right now that he's depth for the T positions. But, and I guess it's a problem we've long wished we had, we've now got three starting quality Ts but only two can start.

So it's one of three things 1.) he actually will be depth 2.) Someone (TW or Jammal) is maybe struggling with an injury or 3.) They slide Locklear in at LG and make Kory L. your primary interior reserve lineman. If Locklear can play inside, I'd love to see #3.

Regardless, now with Trent Williams, Jammal Brown, Chester, Locklear (plus Kory L. and the later draft guys we've gone after) you really can't say we've ignored the offensive line these past two years.

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[quote=vallin21;820579]Also heard he was drafted as a G, so he could backup Litch at LG. IMO I don't buy he's just a "depth" guy. He was rated one of the Top Plass Blockers in the league last year. [url=http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/13/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-tackles/]2010 Pass Blocking Efficiency: Tackles | ProFootballFocus.com[/url] And according to this Seattle's O-Line had only a 28.29% of allowing pressure

I wouldn't read into this, but Locklear was ranked 7th for FA OT's
[url=http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/02/28/ranking-the-free-agents-offensive-tackles/]Ranking the Free Agents: Offensive Tackles | ProFootballFocus.com[/url]

RT Competition w/ J. Brown?[/quote]

Definetely not competition with Brown. I know Brown was hurt last year but with Jammal you're talking about a guy that was rated among the 5 best tackles in the league as recently as 2008. And all the film I've seen on him says the talk of him coming back to form near the end of last year are true.

Not to mention Brown got the big contract. Locklear is quality depth. Still in looking at that list of backups I'm a little uneasy about the group as a whole. Hopefully someone will emerge during the preseason among Cook, Capers, and Smith.

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[quote=SmootSmack;820567]I like Locklear...but would prefer more interior depth. Not convinced that Hicks can bounce back from his struggles in 2010[/quote]

This is why I was asking about Blalock. If we had signed him, we could have used Chester (or Kory L) for depth and been good to go on the inside.

It still is nice to know that if a tackle goes down, we have a quality replacement. And if Locklear can play guard, as speculated above, that is icing on the cake.

I have no faith in Hicks, who from reports is having an uneven camp. I will have faith in Lichtensteiger when I have better reason for such faith.

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[quote=SmootSmack;820595]I mean they're saying right now that he's depth for the T positions. But, and I guess it's a problem we've long wished we had, we've now got three starting quality Ts but only two can start.

So it's one of three things 1.) he actually will be depth 2.) Someone (TW or Jammal) is maybe struggling with an injury or 3.) They slide Locklear in at LG and make Kory L. your primary interior reserve lineman. If Locklear can play inside, I'd love to see #3.

Regardless, now with Trent Williams, Jammal Brown, Chester, Locklear (plus Kory L. and the later draft guys we've gone after) you really can't say we've ignored the offensive line these past two years.[/quote]

Read a report recently (can't remember exactly where) that Lichtensteiger was strugling slightly with his pass blocking. If there is a change at all it could come at LG. Heard any details on Locklear's contract? May give a clue as to what role he'll play.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-sign-offensive-lineman-sean-locklear/2011/08/05/gIQA8NUzwI_blog.html]Redskins sign offensive lineman Sean Locklear - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

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I like the signing. Competition is always a plus. But I just don't get the concern or worry about the Center position everyone else is having? Rahbach is gone. Concern should be over. Montgomery filled in admirably when Rahbach went down in the Titans game. If you guys are worried just go back and watch that game again. The OL was a major sieve with Rahbach playing Center. Now they plan on using Montgomery or Lichtensteiger.

But if Locklear plays Center then all the better for if one of the other guys goes down.

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I love the Locklear signing.
However it seems we keep getting these 70% guys instead of 85% guys.
Mehhhh....I'm an old Hog fan, bigtime.
I'd sell the farm for top OL talent.

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[quote=SBXVII;820619]I like the signing. [B]Competition is always a plus.[/B] But I just don't get the concern or worry about the Center position everyone else is having? Rahbach is gone. Concern should be over. Montgomery filled in admirably when Rahbach went down in the Titans game. If you guys are worried just go back and watch that game again. The OL was a major sieve with Rahbach playing Center. Now they plan on using Montgomery or Lichtensteiger.

But if Locklear plays Center then all the better for if one of the other guys goes down.[/quote]

Obviously you are not familiar with the theory of diminishing returns :D

[quote]The law of diminishing returns (also law of diminishing marginal returns or law of increasing relative cost) states that in all productive processes, adding more of one factor of production, while holding all others constant, will at some point yield lower per-unit returns.[2] The law of diminishing returns does not imply that adding more of a factor will decrease the total production, a condition known as negative returns, though in fact this is common.[/quote]

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/Sean-Locklear-8-5/0ceefc8a-997e-4f04-85aa-4368e30f334b]Sean Locklear: 8-5[/url]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;820572]

Anyway here's a better look at things: [url=http://blogs.fredericksburg.com/redskinsjournal/2011/08/04/depth-chart-where-do-redskins-stand/]Depth Chart: Where Do Redskins Stand? - Redskins Journal[/url]
[B]SECOND TEAM OFFENSE
[/B][B]QB:[/B] Rex Grossman
[B]RB:[/B] Roy Helu (see above)
[B]WR:[/B] Anthony Armstrong
[B]WR: [/B]Leonard Hankerson
[B]WR:[/B] Aldrick Robinson (will be Malcolm Kelly when healthy)
[B]TE:[/B] Logan Paulsen
[B]LT:[/B] Selvish Capers
[B]LG:[/B] Willie Smith
[B]C:[/B] Erik Cook
[B]RG: [/B]Artis Hicks
[B]RT:[/B] Clint Oldenberg[/quote]

That depth chart can't be completely accurate. They don't have Fred Davis or Reed Doughty listed. Has Horton starting at Safety(even if LL is injured)?...lol

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[quote=NC_Skins;820630]That depth chart can't be completely accurate. They don't have Fred Davis or Reed Doughty listed. Has Horton starting at Safety(even if LL is injured)?...lol[/quote]

It's not a depth chart. It's a list of the Most common groupings of first and second team offenses as observed in practices.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;820632]It's not a depth chart. It's a list of the Most common groupings of first and second team offenses as observed in practices.[/quote]

Yeah, basically. Just the groups of players that are taking the field and taking reps in 11 on 11.

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[quote=SmootSmack;820538]I talked to a couple of guys at camp, and maybe others here who went can confirm or deny, but they say in person he doesn't look even remotely as "healthy" as the pictures online seem to indicate[/quote]

I thought that Plackemeier was back

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I don't know much about this guy:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-sign-offensive-lineman-sean-locklear/2011/08/05/gIQA8NUzwI_blog.html]Redskins sign offensive lineman Sean Locklear - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;820686]I don't know much about this guy:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-sign-offensive-lineman-sean-locklear/2011/08/05/gIQA8NUzwI_blog.html]Redskins sign offensive lineman Sean Locklear - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

With Heyer having departed to Oakland and our young depth not exactly proving they're ready, a veteran like Locklear is probably a need. He's played a little guard, but most importantly, he can back-up the tackle position where both Williams and Brown were slowed by injury last year. His versatility will be tested.

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Robert Henson just got released.

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[quote=Mattyk;820704]Robert Henson just got released.[/quote]

Good for him. I mean, not good that he got released. But he had little to no shot of making it so good that it happened now and he's got a chance to move on to somewhere else

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Should've been done sooner; and noticed Henson wore #51 (same as Tatupu)... Betting Tatupu signs this weekend

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[quote=vallin21;820708]Should've been done sooner; and noticed Henson wore #51 (same as Tatupu)... Betting Tatupu signs this weekend[/quote]

i read yesterday that josh wilson and him are pretty close and that wilson really wants him to come to dc

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/4/josh-wilson-trying-convince-lofa-tatupu-join-redsk/]Josh Wilson trying to convince LB Lofa Tatupu to join Redskins - Washington Times[/url]

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[quote=vallin21;820708]Should've been done sooner; and noticed Henson wore #51 (same as Tatupu)... Betting Tatupu signs this weekend[/quote]

Doesnt look likely.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3189/lofa-tatupu]Lofa Tatupu - Seattle Seahawks - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;820711]Doesnt look likely.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3189/lofa-tatupu]Lofa Tatupu - Seattle Seahawks - 2011 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]

If he's only going to get the vet minimum, why not give him a decent contract for like 3 years?

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I think Tatupu's best days are behind him, i say pass on him

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he came to FA too late and lost out on good money. If he's cheap he'd be a great insurance plan, but he doesn't really fit our system.

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Lofa came in for a visit after Rocky was already signed. That rotoworld quote must be a writers opinion.

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[quote=Mattyk;820704]Robert Henson just got released.[/quote]

Sad for Henson, whose tweet from the other day now looks prophetic. He's good enough to find a new home when he's healthy.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;820738]Lofa came in for a visit after Rocky was already signed. That rotoworld quote must be a writers opinion.[/quote]

I think it is. The Post's guy says that we are still interested in him. Josh Wilson is recruiting him like crazy, because they're friends. Lofa can't go back to seattle. Chicago wants him, but he can't play middle there, and he wants some money. I say he could still sign here. If not, he could go to NYG or Philly.

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[quote=Mattyk;820704]Robert Henson just got released.[/quote]

I wonder why? By all means it didn't sound like he was one of those players that was a bad scheme fit, and all the fans sounded optimistic about his chances of being good this year. W/e though.

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[quote=SmootSmack;820705]Good for him. I mean, not good that he got released. But he had little to no shot of making it so good that it happened now and he's got a chance to move on to somewhere else[/quote]

Since when has he had little shot of making it? I thought people were saying he could be a starter. News to me....

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Hard to make the team if you can't get on the field, and you weren't a lock to begin with.

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[quote=SkinzWin;820779]Since when has he had little shot of making it? I thought people were saying he could be a starter. News to me....[/quote]

Yeah whoever was saying that has no say in deciding the roster. Henson's value was going to be as a special teams player. Unfortunately, being on the PUP list just didn't help him.

Personally, I think they cut him too soon for the team's sake yet not too soon for his sake.

Still don't know what's happening with Chris Wilson

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Well in order to sign someone new we had to start cutting people. So who's gunna get signed?

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[quote=SBXVII;820791]Well in order to sign someone new we had to start cutting people. So who's gunna get signed?[/quote]

Clausen, Tebow, Pike or Skelton.

[QUOTE=SBXVII;820791]Well in order to sign someone new we had to start cutting people. So who's gunna get signed?[/QUOTE]

Henson was on the PUP list. He doesn't count

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We signed Keyaron Fox formerly of the Steelers
according to rotoworld

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/06/redskins-add-keyaron-fox]Redskins add Keyaron Fox | ProFootballTalk[/url]

[QUOTE]The Redskins quietly have been bringing in veteran players during the bargain-basement portion of the free-agent period.

The newest addition is linebacker Keyaron Fox, according to Chris Russell of ESPN 980.

Fox, a seven-year veteran, spent four seasons with the Chiefs before playing for the Steelers over the last three. Fox served as special-teams captain in 2009 and 2010.

In 2009, Fox returned an interception 82 yards for a touchdown in a game against Brett Favre and the then 6-0 Vikings.

[/QUOTE]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;820826]We signed Keyaron Fox formerly of the Steelers
according to rotoworld[/quote]

When I put his name under my username for my custom title on Wednesday...there was a reason behind it

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[quote=SmootSmack;820846]When I put his name under my username for my custom title on Wednesday...there was a reason behind it[/quote]

I know hes been a backup his entire career but he probably represents an upgrade over rocky.

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[quote=SmootSmack;820846]When I put his name under my username for my custom title on Wednesday...there was a reason behind it[/quote]

You are the Warpath prophet.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;820851]You are the Warpath prophet.[/quote]

Well...I had no idea Joe Johnson was cut

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[quote=SmootSmack;820846]When I put his name under my username for my custom title on Wednesday...there was a reason behind it[/quote]

If only we had never let Khary Campbell go