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MTK 08-23-2015 01:59 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
Having Trent in there makes a big difference. Willie Smith is trash.

Evilgrin 08-23-2015 04:06 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
He is thinking way too much post snap, it's gonna get him injured big time.

30gut 08-23-2015 04:26 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
[quote=Mattyk;1117350]Having Trent in there makes a big difference. Willie Smith is trash.[/quote]No doubt. Trent's agent was probably the happiest dude on earth after the Lions game.

I still don't understand the rationale for starting Willie Smith in the first place. I'm sure that's a mistake the coaches Jay, Scott and Callahan regret in retrospect.

Willie Smith had 1 start last year. Compton, Morgan Moses both had more starts then him. For as much as OL coaches preach versatility I was wondering why Moses, Scherff and Compton weren't being developed as back-up at other spots along the OL. (even before the Lions game) Imo Scherff should be looked at 2nd or 3rd unit RT. Moses at 2nd unit LT. And Compton at both 2nd/3rd unit RT/LT. But that's just me I guess.

JWsleep 08-23-2015 04:54 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
Gotta agree with Schneed--pretty clear we don't have a QB, barring some miracle transformation where RGIII learns or KC suddenly doesn't throw picks. I personally don't think Colt has the tools to begin with, but he's got heart, no doubt.

From a GM perspective you give RGIII as much rope as you can, I think. Hell, he's got some skills--he won the Heisman. KC will get his shot--maybe he'll be able to minimize the TOs, in which case he may do well. If not, sure, colt. But in the grand scheme QB is high on the list of a big multi-year rebuild. I don't think this is a surprise to McL. He can watch film as well as anyone. It's gonna be a while--that's the facts.

Hog1 08-23-2015 05:10 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
By appearance, we have 3 guys competing for a BU roll as none seem to be able to carry the day....
So, as has been iterated, I am sure SM is looking to the next off season for.....QB

KI Skins Fan 08-23-2015 05:31 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
[quote=30gut;1117341]Using the Lions game as referendum on Griffin is the popular groupthink overreaction. But to me it appears to be based more on perception/emotion more then actual football. The general rush from some fans/media to point to this "game" as proof of their negative belief is imo clearly out of balance.[/quote]

I don't think the Lions game proved anything about RGIII; however, I also don't think he's a fit for this offense. Something has to change for him to be successful here. By that, I mean either the offense or the HC (if the HC doesn't change the offense to feature Robert's strengths as a player).

Something in the back of my mind keeps telling me that the offense we run in the regular season will be a surprise to fans and opponents alike. It will take better advantage of the things that Robert does well. Or I could be just kidding myself.

Alvin Walton 08-23-2015 05:54 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
I dont think it matters how could Griffin can be.
Hes going to get hurt soon enough and I wont be surprised if Cousins plays most of the season.
I'm already looking at QBs for next years draft.......

CRedskinsRule 08-23-2015 06:29 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1117362]I don't think the Lions game proved anything about RGIII; however, I also don't think he's a fit for this offense. Something has to change for him to be successful here. By that, I mean either the offense or the HC (if the HC doesn't change the offense to feature Robert's strengths as a player).

[B]Something in the back of my mind keeps telling me that the offense we run in the regular season will be a surprise to fans and opponents alike. It will take better advantage of the things that Robert does well. Or I could be just kidding myself.[/B][/QUOTE]

I have played that mental game all the way back to 2006 with JGibbs and Al Saunders. I remember going to the opener against Minnesota thinking we were going to come out and shock the Vikings.

I don't have it in me to believe that the Skins have that type of creativity in them anymore. What we are is all on display. And sadly that ain't much.

Sent from my S6 Edge

DYoungJelly 08-23-2015 06:44 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1117362]It will take better advantage of the things that Robert does well.[/quote]

Which is what?

He would have to improve to run read option as well as Nick Foles did last year.

DYoungJelly 08-23-2015 06:50 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
Seen some posts about Cooley's analysis. Here is the analysis of the analysis:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/23/chris-cooley-film-shows-griffin-bears-some-responsibility-for-thursday-drubbing/[/url]

SolidSnake84 08-23-2015 07:34 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
I know Gruden went on record before the injury saying that only injury would change their starting QB, not performance or ineffectiveness...But i wonder if that is someone who was relaying that to Gruden to say. I wonder deep down if Gruden really thinks RG3 can win or is he just hoping somehow that they find a way to win with him so he can keep his job....

KI Skins Fan 08-23-2015 10:02 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1117369][B]I know Gruden went on record before the injury saying that only injury would change their starting QB, not performance or ineffectiveness[/B]...But i wonder if that is someone who was relaying that to Gruden to say. I wonder deep down if Gruden really thinks RG3 can win or is he just hoping somehow that they find a way to win with him so he can keep his job....[/quote]

Are you sure about that? That just doesn't sound reasonable to me.

Buffalo Bob 08-23-2015 10:36 PM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1117368]Seen some posts about Cooley's analysis. Here is the analysis of the analysis:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/23/chris-cooley-film-shows-griffin-bears-some-responsibility-for-thursday-drubbing/[/url][/quote]

I feel vindicated, as I said before Robert has not mastered the art of side stepping, in the pocket he has zero mobility. Defensive coordinators have caught up with athletic quarterbacks and worse than that the athleticism Robert relied on in his rookie season is long gone because of injuries. It is real simple, he either evolves and acquires skills he never needed or used before or
he is done. So far he has shown zero ability to re-invent himself.

30gut 08-24-2015 05:10 AM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1117367]Which is what?

He would have to improve to run read option as well as Nick Foles did last year.[/quote]Not sure if serious.

30gut 08-24-2015 05:16 AM

Re: Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1117368]Seen some posts about Cooley's analysis. Here is the analysis of the analysis:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/23/chris-cooley-film-shows-griffin-bears-some-responsibility-for-thursday-drubbing/[/url][/quote]Cooley's breakdown have an odd defensive take, especially since Cooley's first take was the OL didn't good enough. Now his take seems like Griffin should have moved in the pocket like superman and everything would have been fine.

And that stuff about not using bootlegs vs Lions because of wide 9? Kirk and Colt ran multiple bootlegs.

Thankfully Gruden seems more aware of the pass protection and the gameplan/playcallilng issues with the 1st unit. (hint don't expect a dude Willie Smith that only started 1 game at OT last year to be an adequate fill in for Trent Williams).


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