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MTK 03-05-2020 12:27 PM

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[QUOTE=Number44;1245992]I doubt this. I think if the Giants were on the clock and Tua is still there the Chargers would trade up, and the Giants would be happy to do it, since they could probably get the same player at 6 that they would have at 4.[/QUOTE]



I tend to think the Tua hype is a little overblown and given the injury history teams won’t want to sell the farm to get him


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NYCskinfan82 03-05-2020 12:28 PM

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If I was Cinci I'd take CY and draft a QB in the 2nd rd.

Number44 03-05-2020 12:55 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=MTK;1246003]I tend to think the Tua hype is a little overblown and given the injury history teams won’t want to sell the farm to get him


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For the Chargers to move up two spots, it wouldn't cost them the farm. I think if Tua was still there and the Giants were on the clock, a trade would be the most likely scenario.

sdskinsfan2001 03-05-2020 01:11 PM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1246004]If I was Cinci I'd take CY and draft a QB in the 2nd rd.[/quote]

I would too. Don't tell them that. Or they could trade back into the 1st if they wanted after getting CY.

SunnySide 03-05-2020 01:26 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=NYCskinfan82;1246004]If I was Cinci I'd take CY and draft a QB in the 2nd rd.[/quote]

You have the no. 1 overall, there is a consensus best QB who put up monster stats in a pro style offense against SEC defenses and who also seems NFL ready .... malpractice to get cute imo.

I think you keep drafting a QB until you get it right.

Stars lined up right for Cincy, just like it looks like the stars lined up right for us.

Chief X_Phackter 03-05-2020 05:23 PM

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I like Chase young and all, but I still think if they can pull off a trade or two that gives the team 3 or 4 picks in the first two rounds rather than just the one, they can make this team much better, much quicker. Maybe come away with a top OT, top TE, a CB, and still get a real good edge rusher...Of course they need willing trade partners, but that would be my game plan #1. If no willing partner(s), then CY it is.

calia 03-06-2020 08:36 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1246011]You have the no. 1 overall, there is a consensus best QB who put up monster stats in a pro style offense against SEC defenses and who also seems NFL ready .... malpractice to get cute imo.

I think you keep drafting a QB until you get it right.

Stars lined up right for Cincy, just like it looks like the stars lined up right for us.[/quote]

I tend to agree with this. I see the #1 and #2 picks being no-brainers for the two teams picking first. After that, it's a free for all. Cincy needs a franchise QB and Burrow is looking like the best bet since Luck. And we'd get the player that many think is the overall best player in the draft. I have a feeling that after all is said and done, this is what will happen, and then there will be a frenzy afterwards.

Warthog 03-07-2020 01:26 PM

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The #1and #2 picks are set. Anyone who wants to really move up talks to Detroit first because they are far cheaper than us or Cincy. If I was Detroit and got an offer I would then call Miami and ask them to better it. Miami has the most to trade BY FAR and will move up if they have to.

Although I think big mega-deals are possible, the history of them is pretty bad and they are fairly rare. Only a nimrod like Bruce Allen makes the RG3 deal.

The truth is draft picks, especially at QB, sometimes are busts. So trading many high draft picks for ONE GUY, is very high risk. Look what happened to Shanahan here when RG3 tanked.

I give it a 99% chance we will take Chase Young and I’m very excited to see him on our defense.


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mooby 03-07-2020 05:18 PM

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Has there ever been a mega deal where the guy a team traded a ton of capital for turned out to be worth it?

KI Skins Fan 03-08-2020 10:16 AM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
On April 10th we should have a clearer view of whether or not some team will pay a high price to move up for Tua. That's because Tua is scheduled to take a medical exam tomorrow, March 9th, that could result in his final clearance to resume all football activities and, if he is cleared, the next step for him is his own Pro Day which is currently scheduled for Thursday, April 19th.

If Tua aces his Pro Day, I anticipate that multiple teams will attempt to move up to draft Tua. Those teams will need to draft ahead of Miami and it will cost a lot. Who knows who will try to move up, how far they'll try to move up, or if Miami will try to move up, as well.

One thing that no team that covets Tua wants to do is to trade a ton of draft capital only to see Tua taken ahead of them. That's why I think the Redskins #2 pick will be the target of these teams. I also think that the trade, if it happens, will be done prior to the draft so the team that wants Tua will not risk losing him to another team on a crazy draft day deal. Lastly, the #2 pick needs to be their target because if the Bengals surprise and take Tua, then the team that traded up for him can then take Burrow. Trying to read the minds of the teams drafting at #2, #3, and #4 is risky business.

The Skins need to continue to state and act like they are undecided between Young, Tua, or Burrow with their #2 pick in order to be able to receive and evaluate any trade offers they may get for that pick. It's simply smart business.

KI Skins Fan 03-08-2020 10:16 AM

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[quote=mooby;1246200]Has there ever been a mega deal where the guy a team traded a ton of capital for turned out to be worth it?[/quote]

Yes. Trades for Jerry Rice, Tony Dorsett, Earl Campbell, Dick Butkus, Eric Dickerson, Michael Vick, and Julio Jones.

mooby 03-08-2020 11:58 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1246222]Yes. Trades for Jerry Rice, Tony Dorsett, Earl Campbell, Dick Butkus, Eric Dickerson, Michael Vick, and Julio Jones.[/quote]

Jerry Rice wasn't a mega-deal, the 49ers traded their first two picks to move up to 16 to get him.

I'm talking MEGA-deals, i.e. the Redskins give up 3 ones and a 2 for RG3. The Saints give up an entire draft for Ricky Williams.

I'll concede the Dickerson and Dorsett deals as both were worth it, but the Butkus trade wasn't a mega-deal and Vick was absolutely not worth it.

Warthog 03-08-2020 12:53 PM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1246226]Jerry Rice wasn't a mega-deal, the 49ers traded their first two picks to move up to 16 to get him.



I'm talking MEGA-deals, i.e. the Redskins give up 3 ones and a 2 for RG3. The Saints give up an entire draft for Ricky Williams.



I'll concede the Dickerson and Dorsett deals as both were worth it, but the Butkus trade wasn't a mega-deal and Vick was absolutely not worth it.[/QUOTE]



A lot more mega-busts than mega-deals. Look at RG3 for example.....


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skinsfaninok 03-09-2020 02:06 PM

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If we Trade Trent for a 1st rounder and then trade #2 for 5 and 18, look out!

Wishful thinking I Know

Buffalo Bob 03-09-2020 02:16 PM

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[quote=Warthog;1246231]A lot more mega-busts than mega-deals. Look at RG3 for example.....


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Warthog, I tried sending you a couple PMs, but it doesn't look like it worked. Anyway if they didn't check out my parking lot post on Kratom for back trouble.


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