Re: Commanders 2023 Free Agency Thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1339669]I thought they let JD go because they liked at least either Patterson or Williams.

But Bieniemy could just want 1 of his guys here.[/quote]

JD had neck issues and he was released due to a failed physical, not much money saved on the cap

Re: Commanders 2023 Free Agency Thread
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1339669]I thought they let JD go because they liked at least either Patterson or Williams.

But Bieniemy could just want 1 of his guys here.[/quote]

I think the mindset is to have two lead backs and to have back ups for each of them.

I think both Patterson and Williams are more in the B-Rob mold, a tough/in-between the tackles RB. We really don't have a back up in the Gibson mold, so maybe that's what they would also want.

Also, I do agree that it could also be EB wanting one of his guys in the RB room.

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I feel bad for McKissic. He was extremely valuable to our check-down centric offense. I hope he can play somewhere next year.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1339670]JD had neck issues and he was released due to a failed physical, not much money saved on the cap[/quote]

I wasn't aware he failed his physical. Best of luck to him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1339659]Did you watch all the Commanders games?

I'm surprised how split we all are on if Brissett is an improvement or not. I'm in the definitely improved camp.[/quote]

Yes we go to the bar and have wsh/cle/phi/bal on all the tvs next to eachother

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[quote=MTK;1339665]Can’t have enough good backs especially to help support a young QB[/quote]

Keyword backup. I will be distraught if this dude is even talked about as a potential starter. Hence this current 2 day freak out here lol

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[quote=Meks;1339676]Yes we go to the bar and have wsh/cle/phi/bal on all the tvs next to eachother[/quote]

That was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. I apologize if that post came off a bit dickish.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on Brissett. I think he's better than Heinicke.

I think we all agree, HOWELL WIN THE JOB BABY!!!

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can a team win a championship with a average QB with these ingredients??
*strong O line ( given time a average QB can be effective)
*solid Running game ( takes pressure off passing)
* solid WR/TE
*Very Good D ( top 10 D?)
We don’t have a Top level QB .. probably won’t get one this year so what are realistic expectations?

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1339679]can a team win a championship with a average QB with these ingredients??
*strong O line ( given time a average QB can be effective)
*solid Running game ( takes pressure off passing)
* solid WR/TE
*Very Good D ( top 10 D?)
We don’t have a Top level QB .. probably won’t get one this year so what are realistic expectations?[/QUOTE]


Yes and they have. But obviously a strong quarterback helps. Howell may be one btw. He has never lost a game in the NFL!

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1339660]I think JD was the 3rd down/pass catching back, but he was injured and now he's gone. I heard somewhere that McKinnon could be in the mix. You got the Robinson/Gibson as main backs, McKinnon as the 3rd down. So either Patterson or Williams may not be around.[/QUOTE]


Yeah he definitely was. And a damn good one. Was referring to last year with Patterson and Williams. Didn’t know McKinnon was an option- agree with you and Chico though. If that’s the case yeah get him. Keep Williams too. I like him better than Patterson.

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[quote=punch it in;1339680]Yes and they have. But obviously a strong quarterback helps. Howell may be one btw. He has never lost a game in the NFL![/quote]

1-0. If I was him I'd retire with being no worse than tied for the greatest winning % of all times.

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[quote=rocnrik;1339679]can a team win a championship with a average QB with these ingredients??
*strong O line ( given time a average QB can be effective)
*solid Running game ( takes pressure off passing)
* solid WR/TE
*Very Good D ( top 10 D?)
We don’t have a Top level QB .. probably won’t get one this year so what are realistic expectations?[/quote]

2000 Ravens with Trent Dilfer.

Re: Commanders 2023 Free Agency Thread
 

[quote=rocnrik;1339679]can a team win a championship with a average QB with these ingredients??
*strong O line ( given time a average QB can be effective)
*solid Running game ( takes pressure off passing)
* solid WR/TE
*Very Good D ( top 10 D?)
We don’t have a Top level QB .. probably won’t get one this year so what are realistic expectations?[/quote]

I am going to say not really. The only QB to win that was not playing top level in the last decade is Nick Foles and even then. The team was 11-2 with Carson Wentz having a near MVP season. After that you have to go all the way back to 2006 when Rex Grossman was the losing QB with the Bears and that is a moot point. The game has changed so much since 2006.



I think you can make the playoffs. Win the division. Maybe win a playoff game but that is about the ceiling.

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PFF list of best remaining available FA's:

[url]https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-100-best-available-2023-free-agents[/url]

Cut Chase R. and Thomas and go get Bobby Wagner.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1339711]PFF list of best remaining available FA's:

[url]https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-100-best-available-2023-free-agents[/url]

Cut Chase R. and Thomas and go get Bobby Wagner.[/quote]

Too expensive, no need, draft a LB instead. Rather use that money on Curl, Sweat, Young. If anything, trade Samuel, Dyami Brown has good chemistry with Howell.