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[quote=kingj;1136019]To be fair, they needed a change. Andy did well getting that team all those nfc east titles but it clearly crumbled and he needed a change as did they.

I would say the same thing happened in Denver with shanahan.[/quote]

And New Orleans with Payton.

And the New York with Coughlin.

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[QUOTE=J. Falcon;1136020]And New Orleans with Payton.



And the New York with Coughlin.[/QUOTE]


True, happens to many quality coaches. The poster child is probably parcells.

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[quote=kingj;1136019]To be fair, they needed a change. Andy did well getting that team all those nfc east titles but it clearly crumbled and he needed a change as did they.

I would say the same thing happened in Denver with shanahan.[/quote]
..........no doubt

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Disagree a little bit.

The Steelers have only had 3 coaches in my lifetime.

Chuck Noll
Bill Cowher
Mike Tomlin

All three have won Super Bowls. All three have been through down seasons.

I do think it is time for TC to go. Andy Reid should have never been fired (I was extremely happy when he left the NFC E). Parcells is a different category to me....he didn't have enough patience.

The organization the most patience also has the most Super Bowl wins. This is what is the most overlooked story in today's drama driven world.

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So Chuck Pagano is being retained in Indy; surprising many people in the sports media (and fans too). I'll be curious to see what they do in regards to their FO; I feel that a lot of their issues had to do with personnel.

They need a better o-line, a running game, and help on defense.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1136030]So Chuck Pagano is being retained in Indy; surprising many people in the sports media (and fans too). I'll be curious to see what they do in regards to their FO; I feel that a lot of their issues had to do with personnel.

They need a better o-line, a running game, and help on defense.[/quote]

You know I don't think pagano is a bad coach, but their gm is a tool bag. They got Andre Johnson and frank gore last year. I mean come the funk on, thats right out the Vinny playbook. They need an Oline, running backs and a ton on defense. Irsay is an asshole as well.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1136030]So Chuck Pagano is being retained in Indy; surprising many people in the sports media (and fans too). I'll be curious to see what they do in regards to their FO; I feel that a lot of their issues had to do with personnel.

They need a better o-line, a running game, and help on defense.[/quote]

Irsay looked drunk during the press conference, maybe he's been hanging with Johnny Douche,

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1136044]Irsay looked drunk during the press conference, maybe he's been hanging with Johnny Douche,[/quote]

Tomorrow's headline:

Jim Irsay regrets making coaching/personnel decision after happy hour.

And this is hilarious:
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CX7bNXBWcAEBQ98.png[/IMG]

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Yeah Grigson is a major step down from Polian. I'll never understand why successful teams just up and rework everything all at once.

They drafted Luck, shipped Manning out, and got rid of Polian all at once. Plus hired a zilch to replace Dungy right before all this. Bad mojo all that adds up to.

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[quote=FRPLG;1136049]Yeah Grigson is a major step down from Polian. I'll never understand why successful teams just up and rework everything all at once.

They drafted Luck, shipped Manning out, and got rid of Polian all at once. Plus hired a zilch to replace Dungy right before all this. Bad mojo all that adds up to.[/quote]

I think their bigger issues are not building around Luck, wasting a first round pick on the T. Richardson trade, and getting a whole bunch of washed up players a la Vinny last year (A. Johnson, Gore).

I think the biggest suprise is seeing their GM back. I wonder if Pagano will have more of a saying on personnel decisions.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1136050]I think their bigger issues are not building around Luck, wasting a first round pick on the T. Richardson trade, and getting a whole bunch of washed up players a la Vinny last year (A. Johnson, Gore).

I think the biggest suprise is seeing their GM back. I wonder if Pagano will have more of a saying on personnel decisions.[/quote]

Agreed. Grigson has been a disaster in my opinion.

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[quote=MTK;1135995]Hats off to Coughlin, he had a hell of a run in NY.[/quote]

I agree. IMO he is one of the most under-rated coaches in recent memory.

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its too bad there's still so much talent on the NY roster. it really reduces their chances of ending up with a terrible HC.

TC beat the pats twice when it counted, so hats off for that. he had a good run.

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Any coach that beats NE in the SB not once, but twice and stops their undefeated streak should be considered for the HOF. Let's not forget making an expansion team into a playoff team.

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TC was all class, HOF for sure.

I am scared NY will ship a 2nd round pick to NO......I think I would seriously consider it.

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I hope karma keeps biting corrupt Mara in the ass. Try beating nfc east opponents without cheating jackass.

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watch the Vine in the link of Coughlin walking down the steps and snubbing Mara.

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/coughlin-snubs-mara-after-press-conference]Coughlin snubs Mara after press conference | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Didn't know it was that cold in NY.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1136132]watch the Vine in the link of Coughlin walking down the steps and snubbing Mara.

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/coughlin-snubs-mara-after-press-conference]Coughlin snubs Mara after press conference | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Didn't know it was that cold in NY.[/quote]

I think he mumbles something like "asshole"
as he walks by.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1136132]watch the Vine in the link of Coughlin walking down the steps and snubbing Mara.

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/coughlin-snubs-mara-after-press-conference]Coughlin snubs Mara after press conference | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Didn't know it was that cold in NY.[/quote]

Holy shit...that was cold! Lol! Love it

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[quote=kingj;1136089] Try beating nfc east opponents without cheating jackass.[/quote]


Have a nice night.

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[quote=Chico23231;1136134]Holy shit...that was cold! Lol! Love it[/quote]


Good stuff.

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Why would anyone want the Browns job? Haslem has proven to be a terrible owner. They now have some baseball guy in charge of personnel. He's never even been in football before. WTF are they doing over there? Just a shit show.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1136132]watch the Vine in the link of Coughlin walking down the steps and snubbing Mara.

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/coughlin-snubs-mara-after-press-conference]Coughlin snubs Mara after press conference | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Didn't know it was that cold in NY.[/QUOTE]

Damnnnnnnnn! Nice. TC just went boss level snub. Literally.

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Looks like jerrah is picking up Peyton...

[url]https://twitter.com/seanfazende/status/684595781844643841[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;1136143]Why would anyone want the Browns job? Haslem has proven to be a terrible owner. They now have some baseball guy in charge of personnel. He's never even been in football before. WTF are they doing over there? Just a shit show.[/quote]

Maybe he's watched Major League too many times?

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[quote=kingj;1136164]Looks like jerrah is picking up Peyton...

[url]https://twitter.com/seanfazende/status/684595781844643841[/url][/quote]

...or Brees

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Is anyone here bold enough to try to predict the HC hirings?

Will somebody give up a second round pick for Sean Payton?

Does any team really want Chip Kelly or Mike Shanahan?

Will any minority HC's be hired?

Will any college coaches be hired?

Will Jerrah Jones pounce on Sean Payton?

How badly will Jed York screw up his next HC hire?

Will anyone hire Older than Dirt Tom Coughlin?

I love this stuff!

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136175]Is anyone here bold enough to try to predict the HC hirings?

Will somebody give up a second round pick for Sean Payton?

Does any team really want Chip Kelly or Mike Shanahan?

Will any minority HC's be hired?

Will any college coaches be hired?

Will Jerrah Jones pounce on Sean Payton?

How badly will Jed York screw up his next HC hire?

Will anyone hire Older than Dirt Tom Coughlin?

I love this stuff![/quote]


I love that we're not in the conversation.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1136169]...or Brees[/QUOTE]


Hard to believe given Brees age. More likely to try and scoop up younger guys like RG3 or manziel

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[quote=kingj;1136164]Looks like jerrah is picking up Peyton...

[url]https://twitter.com/seanfazende/status/684595781844643841[/url][/quote]

I think Jerra heard a rumor Manziel is getting drunk on Bourbon Street.

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[quote=J. Falcon;1136177]I love that we're not in the conversation.[/quote]

Me, too!

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Sean Payton staying in New Orleans.

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Lovie Smith has been let go. I didn't see that one coming.

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[quote=Hijinx;1136250]Lovie Smith has been let go. I didn't see that one coming.[/quote]We could use a decent defense coordinator...

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[quote=HailGreen28;1136251]We could use a decent defense coordinator...[/quote]

We're doing fine on defense. We just need a couple of star players on that side of the ball.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1136251]We could use a decent defense coordinator...[/quote]

We have one.......

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[quote=HailGreen28;1136251]We could use a decent defense coordinator...[/quote]

Considering his defenses haven't been good while he was there, why would you think he's a good DC at this point in his career.

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maybe he can go be terrible in new york now.

i like lovie, but he made some bad staffing choices last time out.

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His overall record is 89-87 not bad imo.

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Lovie didn't earn that firing...Team had improved. Bucs must have someone in mind to hire right now.