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A lot has changed since the first time Gruden said no....but I don't think he's going anywhere

Anyone watch Jimmy Johnson a football life? Great stuff

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[quote=los panda;962454]had he known more, it definitely would have been reversed. no doubt about it[/quote]

Yeah I just dont get how he didnt know,total breakdown in communication from coaches and players,not a sign of a well run football team

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[URL]https://twitter.com/howardeskin/status/266614070017413120[/URL]

Gruden To Philly? GREAT.....

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;962508][URL]https://twitter.com/howardeskin/status/266614070017413120[/URL]

Gruden To Philly? GREAT.....[/QUOTE]

I live in South Jersey. I listen to Eskin alot. Happen to like him but I would not take his tweet for anything more than pure speculation.
Boy could I see Gruden as the next Eagles coach though. He actually looks like an Eagles coach - whatever the hell that means.

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[quote=punch it in;962511]I live in South Jersey. I listen to Eskin alot. Happen to like him but I would not take his tweet for anything more than pure speculation.
Boy could I see Gruden as the next Eagles coach though. [B]He actually looks like an Eagles coach[/B] - whatever the hell that means.[/quote]

Maybe that's why he has put on a few pounds. LOL.

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;962512]Maybe that's why he has put on a few pounds. LOL.[/QUOTE]

Now he just has to practice his darth vader voice for the pressers.
All kidding aside im thinking the eagle fans want someone knew in every way - including looks. Lol.

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andy reid has taken a 6 lb shit on a 5 lb scale

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962499]Anyone watch Jimmy Johnson a football life? Great stuff[/quote]

Yep..Football Life is can't miss TV for us NFL junkies. Didn't know that Hoody and Johnson were tight. Not sure if too many people know this but Johnson coached Dexter Manley at OK State.

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[url=http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/midseason-free-agent-busts-mario-williams-pierre-garcon-220823212--nfl.html]Mid-season free-agent busts: Mario Williams, Pierre Garcon headline the list | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports Canada[/url]


[quote]Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan, wide receivers, Washington Redskins: In terms of APY (Average Per Year), the $8.5 million average on Garcon's five-year, $42.5 million contract with the Redskins ranks sixth among unrestricted free agent contracts that were signed in 2012. Garcon's deal was a questionable contract to begin with, because even with a healthy Peyton Manning in Indianapolis, he wasn't posting receiving numbers that warranted an $8.5 million per year contract that included over $13 million in cash this season. Garcon's tenure in D.C. started well, catching four passes for 109 yards and a 88-yard touchdown from No. 2 overall pick Robert Griffin. A foot injury in that game, however, has limited Garcon to just four receptions for 44 yards in two games since the opener and he may not return at all this season. Garcon's $5.6 million base salary in 2013 is currently guaranteed for injury only, but becomes fully guaranteed on the third day of the 2013 league year (March).

As for Morgan, he signed a two-year, $11.5 million contract that contained $7.3 million in guaranteed money. While he leads the Redskins in receptions (29), he is averaging less than 11 yards per reception, has yet to find the end zone and ranks 63rd in Football Outsiders' receiving DYAR (Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement) metric.[/quote]

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;962572][url=http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/midseason-free-agent-busts-mario-williams-pierre-garcon-220823212--nfl.html]Mid-season free-agent busts: Mario Williams, Pierre Garcon headline the list | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports Canada[/url][/QUOTE]
Didnt Garcon have better numbers with Curtis Painter though. If you take the brief snapshot of his healthy game time he is worth every penny. Gonna holdout on the bust word until he is fully healthy.

A little envious of the Colts vertical passing game. Luck looks like Drew Brees moving around the pocket.

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[quote=mredskins;962475]Plus his relationship with Bruce Allen.[/quote]

I could be wrong but didn't Tampa start to suck at the end of Gruden's & Allen's stanza? I didn't follw TB closley during that time put it all went into a downward spiral. I don't think recreating the Skins into Bucs 2.0 would be an improvement over what we are now.

Plus Gruden wants player personnell control. That's killing the team right now. A HC with GM powers. Which lead to his downfall at his previous stint. Sounds familiar?

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;962589]I could be wrong but didn't Tampa start to suck at the end of Gruden's & Allen's stanza? I didn't follw TB closley during that time put it all went into a downward spiral. I don't think recreating the Skins into Bucs 2.0 would be an improvement over what we are now.

Plus Gruden wants player personnell control. That's killing the team right now. A HC with GM powers. Which lead to his downfall at his previous stint. Sounds familiar?[/quote]

Yes. They sucked bad. Gruden was primarily responsible for the personnel during his time there. That team he won with the Super Bowl was picked by Rich McKay and Tony Dungy. (mostly McKay)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962263]Looking at that schedule I'd be happy beating Dallas in Dallas and at home and I'll be good. 6-10 at best imo[/quote]

You know what, if they only win one more game I'd rather it be Balt. Bloody hell how I hate that team and more so there fans. Actually its just the fans that make me despise that franchise. I actually hate them more than NY and Dallas.

It's so frustrating seeing a colts team with a brand new staff and QB win and we can't. ****

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Yep pretty much and envious..... F'n sucks to an extent.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962602]It's so frustrating seeing a colts team with a brand new staff and QB win and we can't. ****[/quote]

And with their HC out, none the less? Considering what he's going through I kinda have to root for Indy. Plus a friend just got into football and him and his Wife are Colts fan. So that's another reason. And for the record he's a Skins fan as well. :lol:

He likes RGIII way more than Luck and is hoping he has a better carrer than the number one pick.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962602]It's so frustrating seeing a colts team with a brand new staff and QB win and we can't. ****[/quote]

Two names, Chuck Pagano (they are playing on high emotion for him) Andrew Luck a stud like RGIII.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;962606]Two names, Chuck Pagano (they are playing on high emotion for him) Andrew Luck a stud like RGIII.[/QUOTE]

I consider luck and griff a tie and u would think MS would be better than he is but apparently not.
And now rumors are Griffin isn't happy? Just gets better And better

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;962602]It's so frustrating seeing a colts team with a brand new staff and QB win and we can't. ****[/QUOTE]

And with 1 legit WR. Who the hell is Brazil? QB makes the Receiver, not the other way around. Oh, and the Colts running game sucks.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962610]I consider luck and griff a tie and u would think MS would be better than he is but apparently not.
And now rumors are Griffin isn't happy? Just gets better And better[/quote]

As much as I love RGIII Luck is slightly better, he doesn't need college plays to be successful, very comfortable in the pocket (helps to have played in a pro style offense).

Whatever happened to your boy Justin Blackmon? Ever since his DUI he's nowhere to be found.

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Come on guys we're rebuilding and evaluating talent. Vomit. Sorry i got choked.

[QUOTE=44Deezel;962612]And with 1 legit WR. Who the hell is Brazil? QB makes the Receiver, not the other way around. Oh, and the Colts running game sucks.[/QUOTE]

Luck is great no doubt but so is Griffin, and IMO they are too worried about running him instead of letting him drop back and pass. It's extremely annoying, look at Miami, Seattle, Indy. All teams with rookie qbs, Miami literally has nobody on offense besides bush and all those teams are in playoff contention. Us? Oh no we are on some BS 5 year plan... Blah blah blah sos for the redskins every season around this time. Always out of the hunt before Thanksgiving

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962602]It's so frustrating seeing a colts team with a brand new staff and QB win and we can't. ****[/quote]

New Coach, New GM, patient owner that knows what talent is. Number 1 WR, Defense that isn't bad, well coach, team is motivated to play for coach with cancer.

Something we don't have

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Andrew Luck can tackle, too?

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[quote=itvnetop;962619]Andrew Luck can tackle, too?[/quote]

I watched the guy at Stanford for 4 years and the guy is one tough hombre, he has a RB mentality and will punish the defensive player if he has to, saw it many times.

I have watched them a few times this year and they don't have any special players especially on defense. Im just bitter I guess but I'm just so tired of losing.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;962618]New Coach, New GM, patient owner that knows what talent is. Number 1 WR, Defense that isn't bad, well coach, team is motivated to play for coach with cancer.

Something we don't have[/quote]


This is the main thing. A team motivated to play for their coach who's stricken with cancer. It's like that 2007 Redskins team. You think they would have gone to the playoffs without that motivation of Sean's death? Most likely not.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;962614]As much as I love RGIII Luck is slightly better, he doesn't need college plays to be successful, very comfortable in the pocket (helps to have played in a pro style offense).

Whatever happened to your boy Justin Blackmon? Ever since his DUI he's nowhere to be found.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. luck is excelling by playing a brand of football that's proven to win Super Bowls. I love RG3 as much as the next Skins fan, but he would struggle without the scheme they've established for him. Long term, they will both dominate. Luck's just a little ahead right now.

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[quote=44Deezel;962632]Agreed. luck is excelling by playing a brand of football that's proven to win Super Bowls. I love RG3 as much as the next Skins fan, but he would struggle without the scheme they've established for him. Long term, they will both dominate. Luck's just a little ahead right now.[/quote]

I'll say it again, Barring injury Luck will break Manning's records

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;962621]I have watched them a few times this year and they don't have any special players especially on defense. Im just bitter I guess but I'm just so tired of

Greg Manusky is the name I forgot. Would you rather have Haslett or Manusky? It's obvious.

It just seems like our staff is always a step behind. Idk maybe we r just that bad

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;962616]Luck is great no doubt but so is Griffin, and IMO they are too worried about running him instead of letting him drop back and pass. It's extremely annoying, look at Miami, Seattle, Indy. All teams with rookie qbs, Miami literally has nobody on offense besides bush and all those teams are in playoff contention. Us? Oh no we are on some BS 5 year plan... Blah blah blah sos for the redskins every season around this time. Always out of the hunt before Thanksgiving[/QUOTE]

Presidents are given four years to put their plan in place for an entire country. Shanny gets five to rebuild a football team. Lol.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962478]I'm w you goat. Hell i may not even watch football this weekend.[/quote]

was thinking the same.

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[quote=los panda;962480]i'm glad it's this late, and also that it's this week. got a wedding to attend on saturday, and [B]rewiring my car's entire audio system on sunday.[/B][/quote]

New components?

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[quote=SmootSmack;962494]A lot has changed since the first time Gruden said no....but I don't think he's going anywhere[/quote]

Do you think he'll ever wanna coach again? (Not talking about DC specifically, anywhere?)

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[quote=The Goat;962653]Do you think he'll ever wanna coach again? (Not talking about DC specifically, anywhere?)[/quote]

I don't know quite honestly

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[quote=skinsfaninok;962610]I consider luck and griff a tie and u would think MS would be better than he is but apparently not.
[B]And now rumors are Griffin isn't happy?[/B] Just gets better And better[/quote]

!! Where? Not that I blame him. He's smart enough to know it's a losing situation with this regime.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;962614][B]As much as I love RGIII Luck is slightly better, he doesn't need college plays to be successful, very comfortable in the pocket (helps to have played in a pro style offense). [/B]

Whatever happened to your boy Justin Blackmon? Ever since his DUI he's nowhere to be found.[/quote]

What on earth makes you think RG3 needs our gimmick offense to be successful? If anything our offense is holding him back, not to mention putting him in dangerous situations more than should be tolerated.