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[quote=CRedskinsRule;919989]This isn't republican/democratic, both sides spend on military, in ridiculous amounts, and on projects that bring work into their district. Growing up Sam Nunn (D-Ga) was one of the most powerful proponents of military spending. Ultimately you don't need a 3Billion dollar boat to protect our shores/interests you need a 3Billion dollar boat because you want every body to see the size of your toys.[/quote]

I was referring to the voters in part, not the legislators. Quite frankly, they are ignoring the people.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/americans-want-to-slash-defense-spending-but-washington-isnt-listening/2012/05/10/gIQAyAzQGU_blog.html]Americans want to slash defense spending, but Washington isn’t listening - The Washington Post[/url]

By in large, the Dems want to cut more in military spending than the Republicans when it comes to the voters. The legislators are going to favor who ever is lining their pockets regardless of party affiliation.


[quote]; Republicans want $74 billion cut, on average, Democrats want a $124.4 billion cut, and independents want a $112.2 billion reduction.[/quote]

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Gotta love slick Willy
[url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77037.html]Bill Clinton is out of control - Roger Simon - POLITICO.com[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;919995]Gotta love slick Willy
[url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77037.html]Bill Clinton is out of control - Roger Simon - POLITICO.com[/url][/quote]

Why is he even still married to Hillary? Hey honey, I'm going to go out and blast your boss on national media for not pandering to my financial donors who've I've more than willingly took cash from over the years. (not even including his blunder in her presidential campaign as noted in article)

This is all I need to know from this article.

[quote]Times were good, Clinton got the credit and, today, he still has a lot of friends in business and high finance and these friends help fund his philanthropic endeavors.[/quote]

It really nullifies everything he has to say.


To think that a man who made his living out of buying companies, stripping them of resources and outsourcing jobs to another country is a "sterling" business guy? Sure, in a country who's economy isn't desperate for jobs and income flowing into its economy. In the real world (ours), such a business man is the opposite of what we need. We need somebody who's going to hold big businesses accountable in taxes and ethics, while creating such jobs in our market and raising the quality of living for people in general, not just the wealthy.

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/obama-isn-t-telling-us-101948668.html]What Obama isn’t telling us | Power Players - Yahoo! News[/url]

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I was actually impressed that Obama did a cyber attack on Iran. What sucks is someone leaked the info.

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The bad news....

[url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/06/14/president-obama-the-biggest-government-spender-in-world-history/]President Obama: The Biggest Government Spender In World History - Forbes[/url]



..the good news. Overall debt is going down.

[url=http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-debt-load-falling-fastest-040045522.html]U.S. debt load falling at fastest pace since 1950s - Yahoo! Finance[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;921625]The bad news....

[url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/06/14/president-obama-the-biggest-government-spender-in-world-history/]President Obama: The Biggest Government Spender In World History - Forbes[/url]



..the good news. Overall debt is going down.

[url=http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-debt-load-falling-fastest-040045522.html]U.S. debt load falling at fastest pace since 1950s - Yahoo! Finance[/url][/quote]That's counting private debt. Meanwhile the federal debt continues to go up. [URL="http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_debt_chart.html"]link[/URL]

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/mitt-romney-really-liked-sandwich-computer-wawa-231304740.html]Mitt Romney really liked the sandwich computer at Wawa | The Ticket - Yahoo! News[/url]


[quote]But more than anything, Romney seemed blown away by the Wawa computers, which he raved about.

"You press a little touchtone key pad… You touch this, touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier, and there's your sandwich," Romney said. "It's amazing!"[/quote]

The article is seemingly harmless, but it shows something that's been a trend since he's started. The guy is so out of touch with reality and common people it's not even funny. They might as well have some big banking CEO running for president.











...and on the flip side.

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/obama-policy-spare-deportation-172548797.html]New Obama policy will spare some from deportation - Yahoo! News[/url]



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[quote=NC_Skins;921671][URL="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/mitt-romney-really-liked-sandwich-computer-wawa-231304740.html"]Mitt Romney really liked the sandwich computer at Wawa | The Ticket - Yahoo! News[/URL]




The article is seemingly harmless, but it shows something that's been a trend since he's started. The guy is so out of touch with reality and common people it's not even funny. They might as well have some big banking CEO running for president.











...and on the flip side.

[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/obama-policy-spare-deportation-172548797.html"]New Obama policy will spare some from deportation - Yahoo! News[/URL]



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You left out what he was really saying about those computers.

It was a technology, he said, that had been fostered by competition—competition he said the federal government lacks in delivering its services to Americans. He said the government's lack of competition and bureaucracy was hurting the United States in keeping jobs that are moving to other countries.

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[quote=firstdown;921784]You left out what he was really saying about those computers.

It was a technology, he said, that had been fostered by competition—competition he said the federal government lacks in delivering its services to Americans. [U]He said the government's lack of competition and bureaucracy was hurting the United States in keeping jobs that are moving to other countries[/U].[/quote]



Guess what? It's because of guys like HIM that jobs are shipped overseas. DUHHHHH!!

I didnt' miss anything. I was to note how out of touch with reality and common people he is. He's that excited to see this technology that's been out for god knows how long? Shows you he doesn't mingle or have a clue about common people. His personal chef cooks for him, elevators for his cars, etc.....

Not remotely in touch with middle class America.

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[quote=NC_Skins;921787]Guess what? It's because of guys like HIM that jobs are shipped overseas. DUHHHHH!!

I didnt' miss anything. I was to note how out of touch with reality and common people he is. He's that excited to see this technology that's been out for god knows how long? Shows you he doesn't mingle or have a clue about common people. His personal chef cooks for him, elevators for his cars, etc.....

Not remotely in touch with middle class America.[/quote]

no long term politician is. Seriously, lets put their pay back to 50-75K a year, and then see how many stay in office.

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[quote=NC_Skins;921787]Guess what? It's because of guys like HIM that jobs are shipped overseas. DUHHHHH!!

I didnt' miss anything. I was to note how out of touch with reality and common people he is. He's that excited to see this technology that's been out for god knows how long? Shows you he doesn't mingle or have a clue about common people. His personal chef cooks for him, elevators for his cars, etc.....

Not remotely in touch with middle class America.[/quote]

The author said he was excited over the computer not him. What was he suppose to say when they showed him how it worked? I guess he could have yawned and said that's old school. All politicains are out of touch with the American people so that not news.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;921790]no long term politician is. Seriously, lets put their pay back to 50-75K a year, and then see how many stay in office.[/quote]

Its not the pay they stay for. Its the power and perks that come with the job.

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[quote=firstdown;921797]Its not the pay they stay for. Its the power and perks that come with the job.[/quote]

I don't necessarily disagree, but I doubt they all would stay if they were paid at true middle class pay, with effective regulations on the "perks" of the job.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;921790][U]no long term politician is[/U]. Seriously, lets put their pay back to 50-75K a year, and then see how many stay in office.[/quote]

thats why we need term limits in the house and the senate.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;921798]I don't necessarily disagree, but I doubt they all would stay if they were paid at true middle class pay, with effective regulations on the "perks" of the job.[/quote]

I would guess most take a pay cut when they run for office. Most are worth millions and you don't get that way over night making $174,000 a year. That's really good money but not great.

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[quote=Chico23231;921800]thats why we need term limits in the house and the senate.[/quote]

Two terms and a small pension plan.

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If that was the case then the elevator was installed prior the new laws requiring them to be wheel chair accessible. When new regulations are passed existings buildings get grandfathered unlass they do a major renovation. Seems like someone wanted a very expensive bill passed and he vetoed the unfair legislation.

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[quote=firstdown;921833]If that was the case then the elevator was installed prior the new laws requiring them to be wheel chair accessible. When new regulations are passed existings buildings get grandfathered unlass they do a major renovation. Seems like someone wanted a very expensive bill passed and he vetoed the unfair legislation.[/quote]

Coming from a guy who had a elevator closed off to anybody but his own personal use is quite funny.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/07/politics/romney-massachusetts/index.html]Romney remembered as CEO governor - CNN.com[/url]



[quote]"He had three security people around him, and you could never get to touch him or say hello," said state Rep. Frank Smizik, chairman of the House Committee on Global Warming and Climate Change. "He was very elitist."

On this reporter's unannounced visit to the Legislature, there was no shortage of Democratic lawmakers who complained about Romney's unprecedented move to block off one State House elevator specifically for the governor's office.

"He took over the elevator for the west wing of the building. He kept it only for his staff and him," Smizik said.

Listening in on Smizik's comments, another Democrat, state Rep. Ellen Story, said the elevator restrictions and security ropes installed outside Romney's office turned off some lawmakers for good.

"When Romney came in, he treated government like the only thing he ever knew, which was big business, and he was the CEO of the big business," Story said.[/quote]

Why are you defending this douche bag? ...lol

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[quote=NC_Skins;921847]Coming from a guy who had a elevator closed off to anybody but his own personal use is quite funny.

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/07/politics/romney-massachusetts/index.html"]Romney remembered as CEO governor - CNN.com[/URL]





Why are you defending this douche bag? ...lol[/quote]

So you went serching for the real story about Romney's elevator story and found nothing but another elevator story told by a bunch of dems. LMAO

This was from your article and it looks good to me:

"He was all business. It was all about policy. He didn't trade jobs for votes. He didn't trade capital projects for votes. So that came back to bite him a little bit," Hedlund said.

Wow, a politician who does not trade away favors/money for votes. That's a new concept.

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[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/some-never-learn-msnbc-caught-selectively-editing-romney-video-to-make-him-seem-out-of-touch/]MSNBC and Andrea Mitchell Selectively Edit Mitt Romney Video on Wawa‘s to Make Him Seem ’Out of Touch’ | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;921993][url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/some-never-learn-msnbc-caught-selectively-editing-romney-video-to-make-him-seem-out-of-touch/]MSNBC and Andrea Mitchell Selectively Edit Mitt Romney Video on Wawa‘s to Make Him Seem ’Out of Touch’ | Video | TheBlaze.com[/url][/quote]

Which is why I haven't posted anything from MSNBC. Thanks for playing though.

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More:

[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/19/msnbc-edits-romney-rally-speech-portrays-candidate-as-out-touch/"][COLOR=#0066cc]NBC edits Romney rally speech to portray candidate as out of touch | Fox News[/COLOR][/URL]

I marvel over decisions made by MSNBC:

[quote]Last August, Ed Schultz of MSNBC played an edited clip in which then-presidential candidate Rick Perry described the national debt as a “big black cloud that hangs over America” to make it sound like a racial dig at President Obama. Schultz later apologized.[/quote]

[quote]And in March, NBC was caught editing the audio of George Zimmerman's 911 call as he watched Trayvon Martin in the minutes before he fatally shot the Florida teen. On a tape edited and played on the “Today” show, Zimmerman was heard calling Martin “suspicious” and volunteering that he was “black.” But the full, unedited tape showed that Zimmerman only mentioned Martin’s race when asked by the dispatcher. The result made it sound like Zimmerman was racially profiling Martin. The network fired three people after getting widespread criticism.[/quote]

Interestingly i never knew the full story behind George H.:

[quote]
But Mitchell invoked an old perceived campaign stumble by George Bush, who supposedly marveled at a supermarket scanner at a grocers' convention during his failed 1992 re-election bid. Even though Bush was actually impressed not by an ordinary scanner, but by a then state-of-the-art device that could weigh food and read damaged bar codes, the anecdote was reported by The New York Times and offered as evidence that Bush was out of touch with everyday Americans.
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My bet for Nov. is safe.

[url=http://townhall.com/columnists/chucknorris/2012/06/19/can_obama_be_reelected_on_broken_promises/page/2]Can Obama Be Re-Elected on Broken Promises? - Chuck Norris - Page 2[/url]

I'm going with Chuck Norris.

- Chuck Norris once uppercut a horse in the jaw, it's descendants are known as giraffes.

- When the Boogeyman (Obama) goes to bed at night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris

Calling it wawa's is out of touch.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/20/politics/holder-contempt/index.html?hpt=hp_t1]Obama asserts executive privilege on Fast and Furious documents - CNN.com[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpwYh9TD6Nc&feature=youtu.be]FLASHBACK 2007: Obama Attacked Trying "To Hide Behind Executive Privilege" - YouTube[/url]

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GM is he the first POTUS to invoke that privilege? i dont think so
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege]Executive privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/20/nbc-ignoring-call-for-explanation-in-wawagate-gaffe/]Peacock pride: NBC ignores 'Wawagate' furor | Fox News[/url]

Pretty cool to watch the video. Hopefully everyone uses this model to follow in calling out media when they straight up manipulate things. MSNBC is just ridiculous.

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[quote=steveherrin;922073]Calling it wawa's is out of touch.

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2[/quote]

I take it you like Sheetzes' hoagies more?


I agree though calling it Wawa's was the gaff if there was one. I also hate it when people call subs hoagies. And dont even get me started on people who say grinders.

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[url=http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-june-13-2012/newsleaks]Newsleaks - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 06/13/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central[/url]

Jon Stewart killing Obama and his kill list. (also other politicians)

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FD bro, you realize you aren't going to be able to hotlink pictures from your work webmail. :doh:

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-obamas-newest-anti-romney-ad/2012/06/20/gJQAGux6qV_blog.html?wprss=rss_fact-checker]4 Pinocchios for Obama’s newest anti-Romney ad - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;922330][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-obamas-newest-anti-romney-ad/2012/06/20/gJQAGux6qV_blog.html?wprss=rss_fact-checker]4 Pinocchios for Obama’s newest anti-Romney ad - The Washington Post[/url][/quote]

That's why I don't even listen to those bullshit ads from politicians. Half truths or things out of context is always their MO. They are put together to target the weak minded.

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[quote=NC_Skins;922335]That's why I don't even listen to those bullshit ads from politicians. Half truths or things out of context is always their MO. They are put together to target the weak minded.[/quote]

Check you PM.

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[quote=firstdown;922347]Check you PM.[/quote]

Did you even bother to see if the link had been moved? It wouldn't matter anyways because nobody can reach that link or access anything you had.

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[quote=NC_Skins;922355]Did you even bother to see if the link had been moved? It wouldn't matter anyways because nobody can reach that link or access anything you had.[/quote]

Thanks for removing the info. From my end when I looked at my post it showed as a picture with nothing wrong.