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[quote=SmootSmack;804272]According to Rich Campbell, Aldrick Robinson's flight was cancelled due to bad weather

Atogwe also not there-so Doughty, Landry, and Atogwe all not there. Reed and OJ have legit excuses. Not sure what Landry's is.

[B]And Malcolm Kelly not here either. Not really sure why not. But I can't entirely blame him considering his injury history[/B][/quote]

If I'm Kelly I'd be sequestered in a hyperbaric chamber until the lockout ends and camp begins. He knows this is his last chance and won't risk it for anything. He probably won't take McNabb's calls this year about AZ throwing camp!

Good to see Beck taking a leadership role. If nothing else he's proving to Mike and Kyle that he WANTS to be the man. Whether he's capable of doing so or not is a wholly different conversation. Hopefully though his play 'becks' up his words.

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[quote=SmootSmack;804264][url=http://www.csnwashington.com/05/24/11/Nearly-40-Redskins-attend-workout/landing.html?blockID=528118&feedID=6458]Veterans put Redskins rookies to work[/url]

Agree on Beck, Matty. That's smart what he's doing[/quote]

You're coming around :D

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I'd still prefer Rex start at this point

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[quote=SmootSmack;804282]I'd still prefer Rex start at this point[/quote]I think just the probability says he's a better option than Beck, but I'm doing the Jags game review right now and it looks like the worst performance by a Redskins QB since Todd Collins against Kansas City in 2009.

I guess I don't know what else to say outside of the fact that Quarterbacks were last a problem here during the Martyball days. So this is somewhat new territory we're treading into.

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[quote=GTripp0012;804283]I think just the probability says he's a better option than Beck, but I'm doing the Jags game review right now and it looks like the worst performance by a Redskins QB since Todd Collins against Kansas City in 2009.

[B]I guess I don't know what else to say outside of the fact that Quarterbacks were last a problem here during the Martyball days.[/B] So this is somewhat new territory we're treading into.[/quote]

And even then we went 8-8 after an 0-5 start. Then again we had a defense that year along with a running game. Kind of miss Stephen Davis now. Still both defense and running game in position to improve significantly this year.

Not sure though if Kyle needs to change philosophy or if he's simply been handcuffed by poor defensive play that has forced him to continue throwing the ball late in games. In both of the Grossman video's I've made you can see how much longer the second half is then the first half, mainly because running game has to be abandoned to control clock and attempt to catch up in the second half. Haven't gotten past the first half of the Jags game though, interested in seeing your report.

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[quote=GTripp0012;804283]I think just the probability says he's a better option than Beck, but I'm doing the Jags game review right now and it looks like the worst performance by a Redskins QB since Todd Collins against Kansas City in 2009.

I guess I don't know what else to say outside of the fact that Quarterbacks were last a problem here during the Martyball days. So this is somewhat new territory we're treading into.[/quote]

Rex or Beck is fine with me for this coming year. After that we can see what our options are. As for the FA options I don't see any them benefitting more than our in house personel.

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[quote=SmootSmack;804213]According to Grant Paulsen, Fred Davis is down to 245 lbs.

Also, heard Rex was much more of a loner on the sidelines. Beck was the "leader" of the offense, offering up encouragement/words of advice to the rookies

Everyone in attendance is getting a copy of the playbook, if they don't have it already[/quote]

I think you meant Lorenzo Alexander is down to 245...it is on one of the articles....it also mentions that Alexander is toying with playing ILB....now if that is true....that sounds like a potential long term fit. I never really thought of that idea for him before. Imagine him playing next to London Fletcher, or as his backup....I can see that as his long term home.
He sure has played enough positions to be able to make some defensive calls. Frankly, I'm kinda looking forward to seeing him try out the ILB spot.
What do you guys think?

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[quote=skinsnut;804316]I think you meant Lorenzo Alexander is down to 245...it is on one of the articles....it also mentions that Alexander is toying with playing ILB....now if that is true....that sounds like a potential long term fit. I never really thought of that idea for him before. Imagine him playing next to London Fletcher, or as his backup....I can see that as his long term home.
He sure has played enough positions to be able to make some defensive calls. Frankly, I'm kinda looking forward to seeing him try out the ILB spot.
What do you guys think?[/quote]

No I meant Fred Davis

And yes, Alexander has been playing some at ILB. I think that may have even started last season

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[quote=SmootSmack;804317]No I meant Fred Davis

And yes, Alexander has been playing some at ILB. [B]I think that may have even started last season[/B][/quote]

Yeah, I recall in camp they moved him there in a few packages. I agree that it is more likely a long-term fit for him & its a position we're thin at, especially if Rocky leaves as expected.

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[quote=SmootSmack;804317]No I meant Fred Davis

And yes, Alexander has been playing some at ILB. I think that may have even started last season[/quote]

Good grief, how FAT was Fred Davis before?

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[quote=SmootSmack;804175]About 30 players there right now, including Grossman and Beck.

Fletch once again running the workout.

I think just about all the rookies are there[/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-gather-for-informal-workout/2011/05/24/AFiZloAH_story.html]Redskins gather for informal workout - The Washington Post[/url]

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Davis was listed at 255 last year.

Sounds like Davis is prepping to be Shanny's pass receiving TE. I'd like to see him work himself into the offensive scheme.

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[quote=Mattyk;804274]I think it's great that players are getting together on their own, but I don't fault anyone for not attending. One major injury and suddenly everyone will have a different opinion on these workouts. These guys aren't getting paid and aren't covered medically by the league. Some guys are taking on a big risk by going out there. Even if they have their own coverage a major injury could be quite costly on many levels.[/quote]

My guess is they have injury insurance to cover them during this time. Hell, college kids have it when they are highly regarded NFL recruits. I guarantee you that Andrew Luck has a injury insurance policy out right now.

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[quote=Uncle Skins;804360]Sounds like Davis is prepping to be Shanny's pass receiving TE. I'd like to see him work himself into the offensive scheme.[/quote]

Here's a look at a leaner, meaner Davis

[url=http://www.nbcwashington.com/blogs/capital-games/Tight-End-Battle-Fred-vs-Cooley-122538764.html]Clash of the Tight Ends: Davis, Cooley Wrestle | NBC Washington[/url]

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The players that did show up for these voluntary procedures obviously feel exempt from the Ray Lewis proclamation that they should somehow feel rescued by the NFL.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-league/post/with-all-due-respect-to-ray-lewis-its-the-players-we-have-to-worry-about/2010/12/20/AFMjYYAH_blog.html]With all due respect to Ray Lewis, it’s the players we have to worry about - The League - The Washington Post[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;804363]My guess is they have injury insurance to cover them during this time. Hell, college kids have it when they are highly regarded NFL recruits. I guarantee you that Andrew Luck has a injury insurance policy out right now.[/quote]

sure but it's not going to help them recover the millions they could lose out on in free agency if they go down with a serious injury.

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Day 2:

Fred Davis and Perry Riley not there. Don't know why

About 40 guys there again

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[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2011/5/25/2189565/even-redskins-players-think-albert-haynesworth-is-a-punchline]Even Redskins Players Think Albert Haynesworth Is A Punchline - Half Smokes - SB Nation DC[/url]

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Beck apparently looking pretty sharp today

Hankerson has looked, according to a text "like we finally have a rookie WR who can make a difference. If this keeps up, he'll be the steal of the draft"

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[quote=SmootSmack;804396]Beck apparently looking pretty sharp today

Hankerson has looked, according to a text "like we finally have a rookie WR who can make a difference. If this keeps up, he'll be the steal of the draft"[/quote]

Drew seems to think so as well.

[url=http://www.vimeo.com/23725884]Untitled on Vimeo[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;804396]Beck apparently looking pretty sharp today

Hankerson has looked, according to a text "like we finally have a rookie WR who can make a difference. If this keeps up, he'll be the steal of the draft"[/quote]

Hankerson was definitely my favorite pick of the Skins draft this year. I'm psyched to see him in the B&G.

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[quote=Longtimefan;804406]Drew seems to think so as well.

[url=http://www.vimeo.com/23725884]Untitled on Vimeo[/url][/quote]

Well now you know who's been texting me...I kid, I kid.

I actually thought you were talking about Drew Brees for a minute, that would have been pretty cool

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Any word on M Kelly being there ??? I would hope that he would be.

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Kelly has way too much injury risk to show up and participate in this.

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[quote=SmootSmack;804411]Well now you know who's been texting me...I kid, I kid.

I actually thought you were talking about Drew Brees for a minute, that would have been pretty cool[/quote]

I guess I just took for granted since he does represent a few Redskin players. It's wrong for me to just assume.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;804415]Any word on M Kelly being there ??? I would hope that he would be.[/quote]

Not there

[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;804416]Kelly has way too much injury risk to show up and participate in this.[/QUOTE]

True...Kelly can't afford to have another setback. Additionly the rookie WRs are going to give him enough competition.

Good move for him to be absent for these.

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[quote=Uncle Skins;804424]True...Kelly can't afford to have another setback. Additionly the rookie WRs are going to give him enough competition.

Good move for him to be absent for these.[/quote]

I disagree completely. Test that knee / hammy or whatever the hell is wrong with him out. If he can't handle these BS practices maybe he should just not play football period. I still have high hopes for him...... Just wanna see something from him

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But if it does blowout while at these player gatherings, he gets no injured reserve, no PUP, no injury settlement, he is just done. This isn't a I wanna play issue, it's just proper economic behavior for Kelly. Can't really fault him for it. With all that said, I am sure the coaches are keeping a mental tally of who showed and who didn't. Not to punish, but as a means of determining teamwork and motivation questions.

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I think it's silly to risk injury at these player organized workouts. Wait til the practices count.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;804425]I disagree completely. Test that knee / hammy or whatever the hell is wrong with him out. If he can't handle these BS practices maybe he should just not play football period. I still have high hopes for him...... Just wanna see something from him[/quote]

Yeah i agree with you. Is he susposed to wait to get hurt once the nfl starts back up? Plus it goes againist his attitude here:

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/malcolm-kelly/malcolm-kelly-hopes-2011-is-hi.html]Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly hopes 2011 is his year[/url]

Plus i guy i wanted in last years draft with more knee/health concerns is showing up for the informal Rams practices, and apperantly had a good work out:

[url=http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/article_94d684d8-28a3-5be5-805e-c4aac3ad0bb6.html]Danario Alexander is finally healthy[/url]

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Well, Kelly will be practicing with the team tomorrow, according to Grant Paulsen

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CRedskinsRule.....I didnt look at it in that way i guess....BUT per SSmack's post above he is sch to show tomorrow..........i like it!

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mk must be good to keep all this time

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I hold nothing against any player not attending...These "workouts" are a circus IMO. Nothing is being accomplished outside of maybe a little team bonding, but they can bond by going to the dinner or any other activity together also. These practices are a publicity stunt across the league to try and get the public on their side. The same way Roger Goodell's phone calls to season ticket holders are an attempt to gain public sentiment for the owners side.

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Practice over, Beck and Hankerson stayed after to run some routes together

Trent Williams doesn't plan to attend. Working out with....Vince Young

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[quote=SmootSmack;804443]Practice over, Beck and Hankerson stayed after to run some routes together

Trent Williams doesn't plan to attend. Working out with....Vince Young[/quote]

Well to be fair, players need to be more conservative with their money at this time, and part of that might be not spending a $1,000 on a plane ticket to go to an unofficial workout.

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[quote=celts32;804440]I hold nothing against any player not attending...These "workouts" are a circus IMO. Nothing is being accomplished outside of maybe a little team bonding, but they can bond by going to the dinner or any other activity together also. These practices are a publicity stunt across the league to try and get the public on their side. The same way Roger Goodell's phone calls to season ticket holders are an attempt to gain public sentiment for the owners side.[/quote]

I agree the workouts aren't all that helpful without coaches there, but I'm not sure it's just a PR move. I think players are genuinely eager to get back to work and these workouts are at least helping to get playbooks out to the rooks and getting them into the fold.

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Man, I'm so proud of these guys. Very impressive turnout...bit disappointed Orakpo, Landry, and Williams didn't show up.