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skinsfaninok 09-07-2010 10:47 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
If we actually do get Britt, who gets cut? Williams or Galloway

Mc2guy 09-07-2010 10:48 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
A business partnership, which is what this relationship is, is a lot like a marriage. You can be right and still lose the argument. You can be wrong, and still "win", its really about how much pain and suffering you are willing to endure to be "right".

My grandfather gave me great advice when I got married: "Sometimes it's better to be happy, than to be right". Meaning, sometime you have to just move on and get over your personal need to be right, even if you feel that you are, in order to be happy.

At this point, I think Shanahan has finally reached the point where he would rather be happy with the team he has, than to be in an ever present battle with Hanesworth about who is "right". I wouldn't call it giving up, I would call it recognizing when you can't win, and salvaging as much of the situation as possible.

I suspect the trade will happen today or tomorrow.

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-07-2010 10:48 AM

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yeah this is just Smoots speculation....

aceinthehouse 09-07-2010 10:50 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=Ruhskins;729024]I thought Kenny Britt was SmootSmack's speculation?[/quote]

No..it's not just smootsmack speculation anymore...

There even talking about this at the titans boards...

and the 1 player they always bring up in these trade talks,is Kenny Britt.

It is all just speculation at this point,but it's no secret that the Titans are trying to move Kenny Britt as well.

and the redskins are trying to get a WR...

The real question nobody knows,is what is the value between the 2 players...and can they come to any agreement?

and are the Redskins interested in Kenny Britt?

skinster 09-07-2010 10:52 AM

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Its a shame things didnt work out. He's our only good d-lineman (I know someone will go off about how Adam Carriker or some other player no coach wants starting is amazing...save your breath, you can't convince me). We need an impact player on the line, I feel like we do need him alot, but if we let him go I wont be THAT upset. If the coach feels there is a need for him to go, then there's probably a need for him to go, and I trust him in his decision making.

SmootSmack 09-07-2010 10:52 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;729024]I thought Kenny Britt was SmootSmack's speculation?[/quote]

Maybe that's where he's hearing it from. I can't imagine I'm the first person (only person?) to speculate Britt. It's known that the Titans are a bit frustrated with him, probably not to the point they'd trade him though.

SBXVII 09-07-2010 10:53 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;729026]If we actually do get Britt, who gets cut? Williams or Galloway[/quote]

Hell, trade AH for the 6th or 7th round pick and Britt and cut R.Williams. Make the trade with the Charger for VJax. It would be nice to have Moss, Britt, and VJax. but... I'm sure the Chargers would want someone to replace VJax... do you all think possibly the Titans get AH, the Skins get VJax and the Chargers get Britt and later round pick in next yrs draft? That way the Titans get what they want, the Skins get a decent WR, and the Chargers get a decent replacement WR plus a late round draft pick?

skinsfaninok 09-07-2010 10:54 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
skinster i agree but if he's going to continue to act like a f ng cry baby, and take damn plays off, he's hurting more than helping.. I'm like everyone else on AH.. Just tired of hearing shit everyday

Ruhskins 09-07-2010 10:56 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=SBXVII;729032]Hell, trade AH for the 6th or 7th round pick and Britt and cut R.Williams. Make the trade with the Charger for VJax. It would be nice to have Moss, Britt, and VJax. but... I'm sure the Chargers would want someone to replace VJax... do you all think possibly the Titans get AH, the Skins get VJax and the Chargers get Britt and later round pick in next yrs draft? That way the Titans get what they want, the Skins get a decent WR, and the Chargers get a decent replacement WR plus a late round draft pick?[/quote]

The Chargers are pretty set at WR. AJ Smith is not trading Jackson.

skinsfaninok 09-07-2010 10:56 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=SBXVII;729032]Hell, trade AH for the 6th or 7th round pick and Britt and cut R.Williams. Make the trade with the Charger for VJax. It would be nice to have Moss, Britt, and VJax. but... I'm sure the Chargers would want someone to replace VJax... do you all think possibly the Titans get AH, the Skins get VJax and the Chargers get Britt and later round pick in next yrs draft? That way the Titans get what they want, the Skins get a decent WR, and the Chargers get a decent replacement WR plus a late round draft pick?[/quote]

Chargers have said they are "set" at WR. Floyd, NeNeee, and Crayton. Add Gates in the picture and they are fine

SBXVII 09-07-2010 10:58 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=skinster;729030]Its a shame things didnt work out. He's our only good d-lineman (I know someone will go off about how Adam Carriker or some other player no coach wants starting is amazing...save your breath, you can't convince me). We need an impact player on the line, I feel like we do need him alot, but if we let him go I wont be THAT upset. If the coach feels there is a need for him to go, then there's probably a need for him to go, and I trust him in his decision making.[/quote]

I agree with you 100% but even AH him self said after last yr he had to go and get in better shape. He wanted to come back and be a beast. He came back and looked as bad or worse. Simply look at the Cardinals game. He looked really bad. If I didn't know better I'd say he's old and useless or past his prime and needs to retire, but "if" he can get back in to playing shape and last 4 quarters then good for him.

I just think this was his plan all along ... come back out of shape and force the team to move him.

aceinthehouse 09-07-2010 11:00 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;729026]If we actually do get Britt, who gets cut? Williams or Galloway[/quote]

If we trade Fal Al for Britt,we wouldn't be required to do anything...still at 53 man roster...

Question is...do they bring up (OLB/DE)Rob Jackson from the practice squad?
Or just stay with the 7 man rotation they would have?
or sign a D-lineman for the 3-4 in free agency then release Roydel?

But if they make the trade and like the roster as is...they don't have to do anything and leave it as is..as we carry 6 WR's..

saden1 09-07-2010 11:01 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;729006]Sorry, AH does not get what he wants (outta here) unless and until we get what we want (something of value or 21 million). AH cashed the check. Shanny owns his ass and, if that's a distraction to some, I get the feeling Shanny doesn't care. Better yet, watch what happens to guys who become malcontents or "distracted". You don't play well, you sit and watch your value, UFA contracts, and glory disappear as other hungry to play step up.

If AH can't get with the program, Keyshawn his ass. Not like we're going to get our money's worth outta him.[/quote]


Here here. Fine him, suspend him....do whatever you can get away with.

SBXVII 09-07-2010 11:01 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;729035]The Chargers are pretty set at WR. AJ Smith is not trading Jackson.[/quote]

We weren't trying to trade AH all offseason either. I think if the right offer comes a long teams listen. Maybe he won't be traded. Maybe he will.

If it's just us trading with the Titans then the Titans definitly need to sweeten the pot. I don't know much about Britt but he doesn't seem to be a top tier WR and here we would be supposedly giving the Titans a top tier DE.

12thMan 09-07-2010 11:02 AM

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This whole saga has to be one of the most mismanaged player/personnel situations in recent NFL history. I can't remember anything like it.

JoeRedskin 09-07-2010 11:04 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;729013]I'd take that[/quote]

Britt and a 3rd? Absolutely - that's value.

skinster 09-07-2010 11:05 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
Just wondering, where is it coming from that the titans are upset with Britt? Id like to think I'm very up to date on football news, but this is the first I'm hearing about this. btw, I would take Britt for Haynesworth straight up. I don't think we can do much better considering that he was being shopped around for a 3rd a few months ago before everyone knew how out of shape he is. I dont see why the market would go up from there.

MTK 09-07-2010 11:05 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;729041][B]We weren't trying to trade AH all offseason either.[/B] I think if the right offer comes a long teams listen. Maybe he won't be traded. Maybe he will.

If it's just us trading with the Titans then the Titans definitly need to sweeten the pot. I don't know much about Britt but he doesn't seem to be a top tier WR and here we would be supposedly giving the Titans a top tier DE.[/quote]

We were ready to unload AH in the McNabb deal... he's been on the block ever since Shanahan got here.

mredskins 09-07-2010 11:06 AM

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The only breaking news here is that we have another BHA in the house in the form of aceinthehouse.

Defensewins 09-07-2010 11:07 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=skinster;729030]Its a shame things didnt work out. He's our only good d-lineman (I know someone will go off about how Adam Carriker or some other player no coach wants starting is amazing...save your breath, you can't convince me). We need an impact player on the line, I feel like we do need him alot, but if we let him go I wont be THAT upset. If the coach feels there is a need for him to go, then there's probably a need for him to go, and I trust him in his decision making.[/quote]

I feel the same way. Late in the season when injuries set in, as they always do and we need a stout difference maker on the D line to collaspe the pocket in a critical 3rd down pass play, we might live to regret dumping him. I am not talking about a big body to clog the middle. Hayensworth fills that role, non of of other DL can run over another top OL.
I want us to be careful not become Vinny Cerrato-like having a million WR's thinking a young WR is the magic pill that will solve all of our problems and no depth at other positions.

Ruhskins 09-07-2010 11:07 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=SBXVII;729041]We weren't trying to trade AH all offseason either. I think if the right offer comes a long teams listen. Maybe he won't be traded. Maybe he will.

If it's just us trading with the Titans then the Titans definitly need to sweeten the pot. I don't know much about Britt but he doesn't seem to be a top tier WR and here we would be supposedly giving the Titans a top tier DE.[/quote]

Well that's what happens when you wait to trade for AH at the 11th hour. The whole "not passing the fitness test" saga and the other crap that happened during training camp didn't help either. Once again, MS should've cut his loses and traded him during the draft or before camp started.

skinsfaninok 09-07-2010 11:07 AM

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LOL chill out mredskins.. He's a new guy

aceinthehouse 09-07-2010 11:10 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
Oh...btw...I keep forgetting Devin Thomas is on the roster...

So yes,we would definately have to cut Williams,but then we would have 52 and would be signing someone. (won't carry 7 WR's) lol

Probably Fat Al's replacement..

tootergray34 09-07-2010 11:15 AM

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If we can get a 2nd or a 3rd for him we should take it at this point...I mean if we aren't going to play him...might as well get good value you for him...agree?

FRPLG 09-07-2010 11:17 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;729013]I'd take that[/quote]

In a heart beat. It actually is something of value for him.

FRPLG 09-07-2010 11:19 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;729006]Sorry, AH does not get what he wants (outta here) unless and until we get what we want (something of value or 21 million). AH cashed the check. Shanny owns his ass and, if that's a distraction to some, I get the feeling Shanny doesn't care. Better yet, watch what happens to guys who become malcontents or "distracted". You don't play well, you sit and watch your value, UFA contracts, and glory disappear as other hungry to play step up.

If AH can't get with the program, Keyshawn his ass. Not like we're going to get our money's worth outta him.[/quote]

I agree...unlessw e can get some value his ass ought to be handled. It's one thing to be a doucheturd...it's a whole other thing to screw around and play properly.

mredskins 09-07-2010 11:21 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;729050]LOL chill out mredskins.. He's a new guy[/quote]


I hear you but new or old people need to hold off on the Breaking News threads until it is actually breaking news.

We are going into the season and we tend to forgot how quickly this forum can become a patchwork of false information very quickly.

CRedskinsRule 09-07-2010 11:21 AM

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[quote=mredskins;729047]The only breaking news here is that we have another BHA in the house in the form of aceinthehouse.[/quote]

When did BHA EVER say we were going 14-2???

CRedskinsRule 09-07-2010 11:24 AM

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RedskinsInsider

Haynesworth angered coaches when [B]he missed halftime meeting to discuss defensive adjustments[/B] and review photos of Cardinals' blocking scheme 9 minutes ago via web Retweeted by FO_DougFarrar and 2 others

How in the He** do you miss a halftime meeting?? Maybe he was in the bathroom?

He should get a prostate exam, excessive or frequent urination is a bad thing!

GMScud 09-07-2010 11:25 AM

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Mortensen reported that during halftime of the last preseason game, the coaches couldn't even find Haynesworth. He also said Shanahan is just about at his threshold of frustration with this guy.

At this point I'd be pretty surprised if Haynesworth plays for this team this year. I'd love to hear that turdburger try to justify his actions this offseason/preseason. He's such a loser. Get him outta here. Like yesterday.

saden1 09-07-2010 11:26 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
Come on, you're not getting anything more than a 5th rounder for him. Why would the Titans trade a talented young receiver and a draft pick for him? Shoot, if I were the Titans I would be asking the Redskins for a draft pick to go along with Haynesworth. If it is as bad as it is being reported the Redskins just might cut him and the only team that seems to care to want to get him is the Titans...you sit and wait for his release.

12thMan 09-07-2010 11:26 AM

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At this point they just have to unload him this week, hopefully by sunset.

Defensewins 09-07-2010 11:31 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
If these rumors are true, whoever the lame ass, whore of a mole inside source that is leaking this information to the press is doing us a serious disservice in our attempts to trade AH.

12thMan 09-07-2010 11:32 AM

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The Cowboys will be here in 4 days folks, we have to cut him or trade him. The first thing the sideline reporters will ask Shanny during half-time is about Haynesworth.

Does he really want this thing hanging over his head with those chumps coming to town?

Ruhskins 09-07-2010 11:34 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=12thMan;729064]The Cowboys will be here in 4 days folks, we have to cut him or trade him. The first thing the sideline reporters will ask Shanny during half-time is about Haynesworth.

Does he really want this thing hanging over his head with those chumps coming to town?[/quote]

He should've thought of that a long time ago. Whether people want to admit it or not, this is a distraction.

skinsfaninok 09-07-2010 11:34 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
I hear ya mredskins.. I agree that we get ahead of ourselves at times. As far as AH goes, I'm about to burn his jersey if he's here or not. Tired of this BS

Ruhskins 09-07-2010 11:36 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;729067]I hear ya mredskins.. I agree that we get ahead of ourselves at times. As far as AH goes, I'm about to burn his jersey if he's here or not. Tired of this BS[/quote]

I'm also sick of the team for mishandling this situation and wait until now to do something about it. Why insist on making something work out when it is not? We could be focusing on Dallas right now instead of this BS had he'd been shipped off a long time ago.

mredskins 09-07-2010 11:36 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;729067]I hear ya mredskins.. I agree that we get ahead of ourselves at times. As far as AH goes, I'm about to burn his jersey if he's here or not. Tired of this BS[/quote]


It gets really annoying during the season with injuries.

BREAKING NEWS (False): McNabb broke his neck!

Reality: Hang Nail

Defensewins 09-07-2010 11:37 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=12thMan;729064]The Cowboys will be here in 4 days folks, we have to cut him or trade him. The first thing the sideline reporters will ask Shanny during half-time is about Haynesworth.

Does he really want this thing hanging over his head with those chumps coming to town?[/quote]

Shanahan is a man not a mouse. Some of you guys act like this is such a terrible situation that the FO is near suicidal about it. There are disgruntled employees in every line of business. I know some of you guys are really upset about it, but lets not fixate on one thing and go over board about it either. The press is making a bigger deal about it than you might think. We are not going to give him away.

Ruhskins 09-07-2010 11:37 AM

re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=mredskins;729071]It gets really annoying during the season with injuries.

BREAKING NEWS (False): McNabb broke his neck!

Reality: Hang Nail[/quote]

Unless you're the Patriots...then it's the opposite. LOL.


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