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[quote=GTripp0012;710017]Somehow, I think he'll make the other $200M of his net wealth last for a while. He'll pull through.[/quote]

I know man, but it's gonna be tough. Ramen and tuna fish for a while, until he can recover.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;710105]Plus the loss of your hot wife and loving kids. This has to be one of the biggest F ups in the history of mankind.[/quote]

It happens everyday in the US. The only thing different here is that TW has more money that she can take. Its no different then the guy making $60,000 a year and has to pay $2000 or $2500 a month in support.

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[quote=Schneed10;710101]Besides, this is just a business decision on her part. He took the emotion out of the marriage when he slept with 18 women. Why should she show any warmth or compassion towards him?

It's a cold, calculated business decision which he deserves to be on the wrong end of. She's figuring hey, I can write a book and make a boat load of money. Or you can give me the equivalent (or thereabouts) of what I could earn, and I'll stay quiet.

Either way she gets her money. But don't act like she owes Tiger any compassion here. He made his bed, he's got to lie in it.[/quote]

Yep, I don't feel bad for him at all.

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[quote=firstdown;710108]It happens everyday in the US. The only thing different here is that TW has more money that she can take. Its no different then the guy making $60,000 a year and has to pay $2000 or $2500 a month in support.[/quote]

It is different than the guy making $60K, but that's just me.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;710116]It is different than the guy making $60K, but that's just me.[/quote]
That can't be real, giving someone 2000 a month from soomeone who makes 60,000 a year.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;710116]It is different than the guy making $60K, but that's just me.[/quote]

Well the amount of money is different but TW and his family put on pants/dress the same way as anyone else. Yes he might be a famous golfer but they are going through the same thing as any other family when these things happen. The only difference is their divorce is in the news and talked about but the real life stuff is still the same. He is loosing his family, wifes is loosing her husband, and worst part of all of this is the children are loosing their family/dad to a point.

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[quote=Schneed10;710101]Besides, this is just a business decision on her part. He took the emotion out of the marriage when he slept with 18 women. Why should she show any warmth or compassion towards him?

It's a cold, calculated business decision which he deserves to be on the wrong end of. She's figuring hey, I can write a book and make a boat load of money. Or you can give me the equivalent (or thereabouts) of what I could earn, and I'll stay quiet.

Either way she gets her money. But don't act like she owes Tiger any compassion here. He made his bed, he's got to lie in it.[/quote]

Brilliant.

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It's not about feeling bad, How much money does she need? That's a stupid amount. A hundred million or something like that will suffice. That is ridiculous. We need alimony reform and a cap and trade on these ho****S.

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[quote=firstdown;710124]Well the amount of money is different but TW and his family put on pants/dress the same way as anyone else. Yes he might be a famous golfer but they are going through the same thing as any other family when these things happen. The only difference is their divorce is in the news and talked about but the real life stuff is still the same. He is loosing his family, wifes is loosing her husband, and worst part of all of this is the children are loosing their family/dad to a point.[/quote]

Yeah, for real.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;710126]It's not about feeling bad, How much money does she need? That's a stupid amount. A hundred million or something like that will suffice. That is ridiculous. We need alimony reform and a cap and trade on these ho****S.[/quote]

This was not done through the courts and they settled this between them self. She would not have received anything near this through the court system. TW is paying her not to talk about what happened and their relationship and that it.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;710122]That can't be real, giving someone 2000 a month from soomeone who makes 60,000 a year.[/quote]Actually it's not too far off. If the gross income, after taxes, is $ 60,000 or $ 5K per month. $ 2,000 per month in alimony and child support is in the ballpark in many states.

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[quote=firstdown;710135]This was not done through the courts and they settled this between them self. She would not have received anything near this through the court system. TW is paying her not to talk about what happened and their relationship and that it.[/quote]

Okay, cool. I get it. He don't want everybody to know he was smoking crack that night he crashed. That's the only thing worth that much to keep a secret.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;710147]Okay, cool. I get it. He don't want everybody to know he was smoking crack that night he crashed. That's the only thing worth that much to keep a secret.[/quote]

The truth is more that he was trying to get away from his wife who had a golf club in her hands when he crashed. She may have knocked him silly before he ever got behind the wheel.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;710126]It's not about feeling bad, How much money does she need? That's a stupid amount. A hundred million or something like that will suffice. That is ridiculous. We need alimony reform and a cap and trade on these ho****S.[/quote]

How much money does Tiger need?

By law, she's entitled to that money just as much as he is.

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It is ridiculous. Point blank period.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;710198]It is ridiculous. Point blank period.[/quote]

You have nothing of substance to support your argument. Point blank period.

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[quote=Schneed10;710200]You have nothing of substance to support your argument. Point blank period.[/quote]

Schneed, Schneed - it's JTF, he doesn't [I]need[/I] substance to support his arguments. Never has. Never will. It's a zen thing.

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I feel very sad for the children. Think of the stories they'll read about their father's sordid activities when they are old enough. Ick. Plus presently, at such a young age, they now have to cope with a broken home. This whole fiasco is such a shame on many levels.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;710206]Schneed, Schneed - [B]it's JTF, he doesn't [I]need[/I][/B] [B]substance to support his arguments. Never has. Never will. [/B]It's a zen thing.[/quote]

Almost like Joe Thiesman himself. :)

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[quote=GMScud;710207]I feel very sad for the children. Think of the stories they'll read about their father's sordid activities when they are old enough. Ick. Plus presently, at such a young age, [B]they now have to cope with a broken home.[/B] This whole fiasco is such a shame on many levels.[/quote]

Thats the real story here not the money. I raised a daughter on my own and even though you and your X keep the child out of the BS it still affects them. My daughter is now 24 and we have talked about it and she tells me about how she wished she could have just spent Christmas, her birthdays, etc.. with just mom and dad. Not dad and then mom and not with them just at the same birthday party but as a family which you can never do once your parents split. People act like divorce is OK and the children will be OK but I don't think we realize the harm it does to them. My daughter lived a happy life but the living as a family part was something I could not ever fix. People need to think before they decide to bring children into the world and if they do split they need to put the children's needs above theirs but that does not happen in allot of divorces now days.

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[quote=firstdown;710220]Thats the real story here not the money. I raised a daughter on my own and even though you and your X keep the child out of the BS it still affects them. My daughter is now 24 and we have talked about it and she tells me about how she wished she could have just spent Christmas, her birthdays, etc.. with just mom and dad. Not dad and then mom and not with them just at the same birthday party but as a family which you can never do once your parents split. People act like divorce is OK and the children will be OK but I don't think we realize the harm it does to them. My daughter lived a happy life but the living as a family part was something I could not ever fix. People need to think before they decide to bring children into the world and if they do split they need to put the children's needs above theirs but that does not happen in allot of divorces now days.[/quote]

Great post.

Thank God for mom and dad for sticking through together 'cause we don't know how...

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[quote=12thMan;710021]I ain't saying she a gold digger...she ain't messin' wit no broke, broke...[/quote]

LOL! Get down 12th, go 'head, get down!

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I was listening to Lavar and Chad on 106.7 earlier, and they had one of the finance guys from CNN (missed the guy's name) on the show. He said that the $750M just can't be right. Tiger has earned $1.1B in his career. After taxes and fees, he estimated the actual figure at around $500M. So it would have to figure in future earnings paid out over the years. He also speculated that maybe his wife has info so damaging that she must be kept quiet at any cost.

Maybe firsthand knowledge of PED use? It would have to be something that would crush his golf legacy, because as far as his current perception goes, it doesn't matter if he cheated with 17 or 17,000 women at this point.

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What gets me is the sexist nature of how this is being spun by the media and perceived by the public: Tiger loses his fortune to his money-grubbing wife. Truth is Tiger Woods' life will go on. At some point he'll win another major. He'll continue to be revered as a legendary golfer. Scandal or not his life, at some point, will transition to some semblance, if not entirely, of what it once was. Look, Tiger faces the media anyway, so he's comfortable in that element regardless of the topic being discussed.

Elin, on the other hand, will now live a sequestered life away from the public eye with her every moved scrutinized by all. She'll, rightfully or wrongfully, be looked upon with disdain by many. And to that end, I think the dollar amount here is not all that significant. Sure on it's face it's an outrageous amount, don't get me wrong! But you can't quantify in dollars how her life and her children will forever be turned upside down.

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[quote=GMScud;710265]I was listening to Lavar and Chad on 106.7 earlier, and they had one of the finance guys from CNN (missed the guy's name) on the show. He said that the $750M just can't be right. Tiger has earned $1.1B in his career. After taxes and fees, he estimated the actual figure at around $500M. So it would have to figure in future earnings paid out over the years. He also speculated that maybe his wife has info so damaging that she must be kept quiet at any cost.

Maybe firsthand knowledge of PED use? It would have to be something that would crush his golf legacy, because as far as his current perception goes, it doesn't matter if he cheated with 17 or 17,000 women at this point.[/quote]

Yeah I've heard considerably less too as well, upward of $250 million though

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[quote=Schneed10;710200]You have nothing of substance to support your argument. Point blank period.[/quote]
As far as the law.. probably not. As far as common sense, that's all that it takes. Look I don't care if he lost the money or she got it, it just shows how flawed the system is. I know that this was mostly taken care of outside of the courts but that's crazy. Maybe if she had some LPGA wins under her belt she'd be worthy of it. She definitely deserves enough to take care of the kids but nobody ever needs 750m for ANYTHING. I mean if they earn it, someone is willing to give it to them, fine.. it's just mind-blowing.

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[quote=GMScud;710207]I feel very sad for the children. Think of the stories they'll read about their father's sordid activities when they are old enough. Ick. Plus presently, at such a young age, they now have to cope with a broken home. This whole fiasco is such a shame on many levels.[/quote]

Yeah, think of the amount of times that this happens every year with people that aren't famous though. I hate to sound shallow but they'll be taken care of one way or another, though money doesn't necessarily fill in for emotion. There are definitely children in much worse scenarios that won't have hardly any type of support. Doesn't mean that their pain doesn't matter though, it really is a shame for them.

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[quote=firstdown;710220]Thats the real story here not the money. I raised a daughter on my own and even though you and your X keep the child out of the BS it still affects them. My daughter is now 24 and we have talked about it and she tells me about how she wished she could have just spent Christmas, her birthdays, etc.. with just mom and dad. Not dad and then mom and not with them just at the same birthday party but as a family which you can never do once your parents split. People act like divorce is OK and the children will be OK but I don't think we realize the harm it does to them. My daughter lived a happy life but the living as a family part was something I could not ever fix. People need to think before they decide to bring children into the world and if they do split they need to put the children's needs above theirs but that does not happen in allot of divorces now days.[/quote]

respect++ for you man.. did not know that

how young was she when you two split? my parents split before I was even born.. I guess I kind of never knew what it was supposed to be like with that.. my grandfather was my first father figure and a damn good one at that (to me anyways, I hear that he wasn't so pleasant beforehand)

my stepfather was a decent role model but is even more stubborn than you (just messing with you) and definitely had his flaws.. our relationship has grown over the years though.. more of a mutual respect for our ability to continue on and overcome adversity I guess.. I haven't talked to my mom in lord knows how long yet I still talk to him

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[quote=tryfuhl;710344]Yeah, think of the amount of times that this happens every year with people that aren't famous though. I hate to sound shallow but they'll be taken care of one way or another, though money doesn't necessarily fill in for emotion. There are definitely children in much worse scenarios that won't have hardly any type of support. Doesn't mean that their pain doesn't matter though, it really is a shame for them.[/quote]

My parents split when I was in the midst of high school and my brother was around 11. It's definitely not easy. In my parents' case it was the right choice for sure, but the transition was pretty tough. More so for my bro than me, but those are trying times for families, and as we both know firsthand.

Lack of money always makes life hard, and certainly there are worse scenarios than what Tiger's kids are facing. But they are now officially from a broken home, and their father is a world class athlete and world class scumbag at the same time. A hero and a failure all wrapped into one. As they grow up, life will be confusing and tough for them, regardless of the quality of the roof over their head. Money matters, but they still have a hard road ahead.

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It's almost rare to run into someone that doesn't have divorced parents. My parents broke up when I was 8. Gotta say though they handled things pretty damn well. We lived with our Mom but spent the summers and pretty much every major school holiday with my Dad. They never talked trash about each other (at least not when we were around) and they kept things very amicable.

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[quote=tryfuhl;710345]respect++ for you man.. did not know that

how young was she when you two split? my parents split before I was even born.. I guess I kind of never knew what it was supposed to be like with that.. my grandfather was my first father figure and a damn good one at that (to me anyways, I hear that he wasn't so pleasant beforehand)

my stepfather was a decent role model but is even more stubborn than you (just messing with you) and definitely had his flaws.. our relationship has grown over the years though.. more of a mutual respect for our ability to continue on and overcome adversity I guess.. I haven't talked to my mom in lord knows how long yet I still talk to him[/quote]

We split when she was two and at age three she came to live with me full time as her mother moved away leaving her with her parents. That night I had to tell my daughter that mommy had moved away and when the tears fell it changed my life forever. From that day on my life was for her and while not spoiling her I gave her the love and attention she needed as a chid. The funny part was she cried for a few minutes then asked if we had any cookies? We went down had cookies and we moved on with her/our life. I myself was just a kid at age 23 but I had to grow up real fast but it was worth every minute of it. Now I get to live those moments again at age 45 with our daughter of 3 and while people ask me if I'm crazy I say yes but the minute I come home and she comes running to me saying daddy, daddy, daddy, I know I'm not.

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[quote=firstdown;710408]We split when she was two and at age three she came to live with me full time as her mother moved away leaving her with her parents. That night I had to tell my daughter that mommy had moved away and when the tears fell it changed my life forever. From that day on my life was for her and while not spoiling her I gave her the love and attention she needed as a chid. The funny part was she cried for a few minutes then asked if we had any cookies? We went down had cookies and we moved on with her/our life. I myself was just a kid at age 23 but I had to grow up real fast but it was worth every minute of it. Now I get to live those moments again at age 45 with our daughter of 3 and while people ask me if I'm crazy I say yes but the minute I come home and she comes running to me saying daddy, daddy, daddy, I know I'm not.[/quote]

The softer side of firstdown :)

"A truly rich man is one whose children run into his arms when his hands are empty."
--Unknown Author

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;710414]The softer side of firstdown :)

"A truly rich man is one whose children run into his arms when his hands are empty."
--Unknown Author[/quote]

I like that. Firstdown has always had a soft side.