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I honestly don't have any faith in AH coming to camp (in shape), working hard, and keeping his mouth shut.

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I see ah coming to camp on time, being run ragged the first day, and then developing an injury that keeps him from practicing. He already has demonstrated considerable contempt for the new staff, and his statement was a laughable exercise at spin control when no one was in his corner publicly.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;711493][B]I see ah coming to camp on time, being run ragged the first day, and then developing an injury that keeps him from practicing.[/B] He already has demonstrated considerable contempt for the new staff, and his statement was a laughable exercise at spin control when no one was in his corner publicly.[/quote]

Definitely. Especially when he's not lining up with the starters right away. You just know the coaches are going to ride him like a dog too.

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[quote=Mattyk;711491]I honestly don't have any faith in AH coming to camp (in shape), working hard, and keeping his mouth shut.[/quote]


LOL - I really dont either, but trying to be optomistic for once regarding this team and front office.

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Man I hope he shows up to one of the camps that is open to the public.

I would love to go there, and tell him how I feel. It would be crazy the number of fans that will be booing him. He will hug the far end of the practice field when entering and exiting lol.

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[quote=#56fanatic;711502]LOL - I really dont either, but trying to be optomistic for once regarding this team and front office.[/quote]

I was holding out hope until he skipped out on the mandatory minicamp and said he wanted to be traded.

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I had a gut feeling that Shanny would make sure that AH is traded by July 29th so that AH couldn't be a distraction at Training Camp. But, as time goes on, it's beginning to look like AH may be at camp, after all.

Obviously, the best case scenario would be that AH comes to camp in shape and ready to go. I think we all know that he can dominate and there's no doubt in my mind that we would be a better team with him than without him. So now I'm starting to think that, if AH makes it to camp, he'll be here for the long haul as long as he can meet Shanny's [U]minimum[/U] standard of behavior. It seems to me that every team has at least one player who is a pain in the neck. AH just makes more money than the rest of them.

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Finally a positive ah article, granted it's an interview with his personal trainer but it painted his off-season in a positive [U]individual[/U] light. The question unasked and unanswered is how it translates to the team approach.
[url=http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2010/072010/07142010/561567]Fredericksburg.com - Trainer says tackle is in shape[/url]

[QUOTE] When Haynesworth has visited other cities, such as Miami, Smith has accompanied him. Haynesworth and Smith have been apart for only 2 weeks since April, but Haynesworth maintained his routine even then, Smith said.

"He told me, 'I want to go from April all the way through to July, nonstop, and be ready,'" Smith said.
...
He wants to weigh less than in past years, Smith said, so there has been more cardiovascular work in addition to the position-specific, explosive weight-lifting exercises to which he's accustomed. Haynesworth weighed 362 pounds on April 5 and checked in yesterday afternoon at 330, Smith said. Haynesworth was listed at 350 in the Redskins' 2009 media guide.

Smith also added boxing training to Haynesworth's routine for the first time. Two days a week for 45 minutes, Haynesworth hits a heavy bag or focus mitts.

"If he can have quicker and more powerful hands than the offensive lineman, then he's going to stand a much better chance of shedding blocks, throwing guys off and getting a quicker punch to them," Smith said. "We've been doing a lot of boxing, and I think he really likes it."[/QUOTE]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;712281]Finally a positive ah article, granted it's an interview with his personal trainer but it painted his off-season in a positive [U]individual[/U] light. The question unasked and unanswered is how it translates to the team approach.
[url=http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2010/072010/07142010/561567]Fredericksburg.com - Trainer says tackle is in shape[/url][/quote]

This is a great article...but his weight loss certainly suggests that Haynesworth is trying to avoid having to play the nose full time.
Another good thing is that it makes him far more marketable if the Skins want to trade him. A leaner, quicker Haynesworth may be worth keeping at DE.

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Believe it when we see it. Honestly what else is his trainer going to say?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;712281]Finally a positive ah article, granted it's an interview with his personal trainer but it painted his off-season in a positive [U]individual[/U] light. The question unasked and unanswered is how it translates to the team approach.
[url=http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2010/072010/07142010/561567]Fredericksburg.com - Trainer says tackle is in shape[/url][/quote]

This is a MUST READ article.
Note that even though this is his "personal trainer"...the guy has trained Haynesworth for 3 years straight and actually lives with him...he is probably the closest guy with accurate information regarding Haynesworth's body and mind at this time.

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[quote=Mattyk;712284]Believe it when we see it. Honestly what else is his trainer going to say?[/quote]

I agree. The bottom line for me remains that he purposely chose to skip the mandatory mini-camp. At this point, if he wants respect, he has to show up on time, go full force in whatever position Haslett puts him in, and earn his starting spot back - which I am sure he can if he wants it.

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[quote=Mattyk;712284]Believe it when we see it. Honestly what else is his trainer going to say?[/quote]

I'm with you. Only time will tell.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;712286]I agree. The bottom line for me remains that he purposely chose to skip the mandatory mini-camp. At this point, if he wants respect, [B]he has to show up on time, go full force in whatever position Haslett puts him in, and earn his starting spot back[/B] - which I am sure he can if he wants it.[/quote]

I really have zero confidence on that happening. He's got a lot to prove at this point.

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If AH shows up to play Week 1, and breaks Tony Romo, all is forgiven. For me at least. I am sure some of you think otherwise.

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[quote=johno;712304]If AH shows up to play Week 1, and breaks Tony Romo, all is forgiven. For me at least. I am sure some of you think otherwise.[/quote]

Amen brother man. Preach on. Well, I won't say things will be perfect again, but it'll do a lot to fix how I see him at least if Romo is getting carted off the field. I will be able to say for the first time in awhile, "Albert Haynesworth put a smile on my face."

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The trainner went to Miami with him, why couldn't he showup with him in Virginia or DC.

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tired of hearing about this FAT BUM

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[quote=Mattyk;712284]Believe it when we see it. Honestly what else is his trainer going to say?[/quote]

I don't know but his credibility would be completely shot if he's wrong in 2 weeks.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;712281]Finally a positive ah article, granted it's an interview with his personal trainer but it painted his off-season in a positive [U]individual[/U] light. [B]The question unasked and unanswered is how it translates to the team approach.[/B]
[URL="http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2010/072010/07142010/561567"]Fredericksburg.com - Trainer says tackle is in shape[/URL][/quote]

Why ask the translation? Its not rocket science. His actions are worth a thousand words. Fat Al is all about Fat Al plain and simple.

He could care less about team OR well he would have been in DC the last several months working with the rest of the TEAM!

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Think of how great of shape AH could have been in had he not spent the first months of the off-season gaining nearly 15 pounds

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[quote=SmootSmack;712352]Think of how great of shape AH could have been in had he not spent the first months of the off-season gaining nearly 15 pounds[/quote]

lol yeah.. putting him at 330 puts him around where he started last season right?

granted he still has another 2 weeks plus camp to improve even more

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I think it is a good report.

Doesn't Haslett want the DE around 326. Maybe that is what he is working to get close to. I don't know juswt throwing it out there. Want the guy to come in shape and be ready to play football. Nothing more nothing less.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;712316]The trainner went to Miami with him, why couldn't he showup with him in Virginia or DC.[/quote]

Because Haynesworth was trying to join the Heat.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;712372]I think it is a good report.

Doesn't Haslett want the DE around 326. Maybe that is what he is working to get close to. I don't know juswt throwing it out there. Want the guy to come in shape and be ready to play football. Nothing more nothing less.[/quote]

yeah a healthy 320

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[quote=Dirtbag359;712377]Because Haynesworth was trying to join the Heat.[/quote]

Well played

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;712316]The trainner went to Miami with him, why couldn't he showup with him in Virginia or DC.[/quote]

He's trying to slim down since Derrick Fisher took that 3 year deal to stay in LA, he probably thinks he has a shot at playing the point. I can see it now. Fat Al dishes a no look pass to LeBron for a jam. Poetry.

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[quote=SkinzWin;712383]He's trying to slim down since Derrick Fisher took that 3 year deal to stay in LA, he probably thinks he has a shot at playing the point. I can see it now. Fat Al dishes a no look pass to LeBron for a jam. Poetry.[/quote]

Are you Carlos Mencia?

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[quote=tryfuhl;712378]yeah a healthy 320[/quote]


just trying to be positive about the situation. lol

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;712397]just trying to be positive about the situation. lol[/quote]

nah I got you.. AH at 320 would be good as long as his conditioning backed it up.. didn't state it well but I meant the healthy 320 more for the guys that were trying to gain like Daniels

he should be thankful that they'll move him around a bit because they may use him a bit more situationally and he'll get some breaks here and there rotating out with guys like Golston, Daniels, Kemoeatu, etc

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;712286]I agree. The bottom line for me remains that he purposely chose to skip the mandatory mini-camp. At this point, if he wants respect, he has to show up on time, go full force in whatever position Haslett puts him in, and earn his starting spot back - which I am sure he can if he wants it.[/quote]

It's going to be surprising to some how well Haynesworth will be received once he shows up for camp in shape. A great many things have been said during the course of his absence but the bottom line is football.

With the money he's being paid there's no way he's going to sit. Come opening day I look for him to be in the starting line-up.

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[quote=Longtimefan;712422]It's going to be surprising to some how well Haynesworth will be received once he shows up for camp in shape. A great many things have been said during the course of his absence but the bottom line is football.

With the money he's being paid there's no way he's going to sit. Come opening day I look for him to be in the starting line-up.[/quote]

At least one football talking head has said that this sort of thing happens all the time and that should he show up it will all be water under the bridge (I think this particular talking head mentioned Strahan's hold out as an example). Besides I'm sure the attention will shift to players that are planning to continue their hold out into the season (I think Vincent Jackson is one of them, I could be wrong).

Personally, I think he'll be damaging his career (further) if he holds out during training camp and into the season. Honestly, at this point I don't care what he does or what is said about him now, because as someone has said he just need to show up for training camp and get to work.

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I hear ya. I don't want a guy who just went on a diet to lose wieght or a guy who ate alot to put on wieght. We want good conditioned guys who are ready to play 45-60 plays a game. Of course if our D plays really well then the guys don't have to be on the field for very long!

I'll take a 2008 version of AH on my team. He can change games. Maybe he will be motivated to show the league he is still a beast and not a bum that most are calling him out to be right now.

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[quote=SmootSmack;712386]Are you Carlos Mencia?[/quote]

:lol:

Joe Rogan really ripped that guy a new one. The youtube video's a must-watch!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;712386]Are you Carlos Mencia?[/quote]

Maybe. Mind of Mencia isn't even on TV anymore is it?

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No. Just reruns.

Carlos has disappeared like Dave Chappelle.

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It is the evil empire Comedy Central... I smell conspiracy

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ah ... fat piece of shit who only cares about what is going to better himself. And likes to run over teenage kids and paralyze them...but he's rich and famous so he'll never go to jail. **** this guy... I hope he never gets to play in the NFL again. Same for Micheal Vick...both are class A pieces of SHIT.

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[quote=Ruhskins;712428]At least one football talking head has said that this sort of thing happens all the time and that should he show up it will all be water under the bridge (I think this particular talking head mentioned Strahan's hold out as an example). Besides I'm sure the attention will shift to players that are planning to continue their hold out into the season (I think Vincent Jackson is one of them, I could be wrong).

Personally, I think he'll be damaging his career (further) if he holds out during training camp and into the season. Honestly, at this point I don't care what he does or what is said about him now, because as someone has said he just need to show up for training camp and get to work.[/quote]

Showing up in good shape will be a good start, but I think he's got a bit more to do before everyone considers this past offseason water under the bridge. He better be ready to work his tail off and do anything the coaches ask of him with no complaining.

That said I still can't shake this feeling that he's not going to be in a Redskins uniform this year.

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[quote=Mattyk;712499]Showing up in good shape will be a good start, but I think he's got a bit more to do before everyone considers this past offseason water under the bridge. He better be ready to work his tail off and do anything the coaches ask of him with no complaining.

That said I still can't shake this feeling that [B]he's not going to be in a Redskins uniform this year[/B].[/quote]

bingo.........