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tryfuhl 04-02-2010 12:23 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
so a backup LB, 4th and 5th for a pretty good corner and well.. don't know much about Gocong

seems like Holmgren did pretty well.. and the Eagles continue to stockpile picks

sandtrapjack 04-02-2010 12:51 PM

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You guys want a Left Tackle?

Cowboys RELEASED Flozell Adams today.

Ken Hamlin was released too if you want an under-achieving Safety.

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 12:53 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;681307]You guys want a Left Tackle?

Cowboys RELEASED Flozell Adams today.

Ken Hamlin was released too if you want an under-achieving Safety.[/quote]

that had to trip Flozell up

ha ha ha

53Fan 04-02-2010 12:56 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;681311]that had to trip Flozell up

ha ha ha[/quote]

No s**t. :laughing2 Think Flozell felt a little humbled today?

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 12:59 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;681175]Anyone know much about New Mexico C Eric Cook?[/quote]

he visiting?

Chico23231 04-02-2010 12:59 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;681307]You guys want a Left Tackle?

Cowboys RELEASED Flozell Adams today.

Ken Hamlin was released too if you want an under-achieving Safety.[/quote]

Wow, it kinda sux when the Cowboys start making good moves. Hamlin was god-aweful...im gonna miss him. Flozell, avg-below avg Tackle, he wont be missed by the Cowturds...

SirClintonPortis 04-02-2010 01:01 PM

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So, I guess one could wonder whether the pukes will either draft a tackle or will press Doug Free into LT service or both. Romo better watch out. :FIREdevil

SmootSmack 04-02-2010 01:01 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;681316]he visiting?[/quote]

Not sure he's visiting, but there's interest.

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 01:01 PM

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Didn't know who he was

University of New Mexico center Erik Cook is scheduled to work out for the Bengals this week, but has also been drawing interest from the Browns, Bills, Titans, Panthers, Dolphins, Texans, Raiders and Redskins. The Lobos' Most Valuable Player Award winner in 2009 was a three-year starter who also gained some experience at tackle and guard earlier in his college career.

[url=http://smu.scout.com/2/959004.html]Scout.com: NFL Draft Buzz: Colt McCoy To Visit Redskins[/url]

Projected round 6-7

For other people curious.

SmootSmack 04-02-2010 01:02 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;681320]University of New Mexico center Erik Cook is scheduled to work out for the Bengals this week, but has also been drawing interest from the Browns, Bills, Titans, Panthers, Dolphins, Texans, Raiders and Redskins. The Lobos' Most Valuable Player Award winner in 2009 was a three-year starter who also gained some experience at tackle and guard earlier in his college career.[/quote]

Where'd you find that?

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 01:05 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;681321]Where'd you find that?[/quote]

edited with link

and his NM profile for those interested:

[quote][B]Three-year starter[/B] who was one of the premier offensive linemen in the Mountain West Conference and leader of the Lobos' outstanding offensive line group, dubbed The Hitmen, his final two years...[B]first team all-MWC as senior and second team all-MWC selection as a junior[/B]...CollegeFootballNews.com rated him as the [B]No. 4 senior center in the country entering the 2009 season[/B]...developed into a real leader up front as a junior, especially after starting QB Donovan Porterie suffered a season-ending injury in week 4...[B]made all the line calls and blitz adjustments for the offensive line[/B]...an excellent athlete who [B]could play any position on the line[/B]...manned the starting left tackle spot as a sophomore in 2007 and was extremely valuable as the top backup at every position up front...saw game action at tackle, guard, and center in `07 and [B]played four of the five OL spots in a single game[/B] (vs. Sacramento State)...best position was center where he took over for `07 first team all-MWC honoree Vince Natali...39 career games with 33 starts (23 at C, 9 at OT, 1 at OG)...[B]broke his right wrist during the final week of training camp in 2007 and taught himself to snap with his left hand the rest of the season when he played center[/B]...split time with an injured Natali late in the 2006 season...made tremendous progress on the field and in the weight room over his final two years...max of 348 in the power clean and 500 in the squat...selected to play in the Texas vs. The Nation all-star game and earned an invite to the NFL Combine.[/quote]

[url=http://www.golobos.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cook_erik00.html]The University of New Mexico Official Athletic Site[/url]

sounds like a fucking workhorse

Lotus 04-02-2010 01:54 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;681307]You guys want a Left Tackle?

Cowboys RELEASED Flozell Adams today.

Ken Hamlin was released too if you want an under-achieving Safety.[/quote]

The Cowboys' trash is another man's trash.

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 01:56 PM

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[quote=Lotus;681361]The Cowboys' trash is another man's trash.[/quote]

We need a good holder and with Iupati likely off the board when we're ready to pick him, I think he would be a great value. His ability to trip players should also come in handy.

SirClintonPortis 04-02-2010 01:59 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;681363]We need a good holder and with Iupati likely off the board when we're ready to pick him, I think he would be a great value. His ability to trip players should also come in handy.[/quote]

Would be ironic if he tried to trip Ware.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-02-2010 02:03 PM

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i think both would be decent to bring in as depth. Adams would instantly become the best OT on the team. If you consider Landry only as an SS, Hamlin would instantly become our best FS as well. Neither would be anything more than a temporary stopgap or depth signing though.

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 02:03 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;681366]Would be ironic if he tried to trip Ware.[/quote]

Ha ha, Ware would destroy him, or better yet split is ankle in half.

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 02:05 PM

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Crap I'm now really starting to want Gaither. He's a hell of a value for a second round pick even if he's not the "ideal" zone blocking Tackle. Plus I'm starting to like the idea of a Monster Zone Blocking Line (GAITHER, DOCKERY, [SIZE="1"]rabach[/SIZE], BIG MIKE WILLIAMS, ARTIS HICKS)

[quote]Updating the Jared Gaither saga -- for some background, click here -- there was a report from Jason La Canfora of NFL.com this week that a trade could get done for the LT with just a high second-round pick coming back to the Ravens in return. As we know, Gaither was tendered at the first-round RFA level, so if a team signed him away with an offer sheet the Ravens didn't match, they'd send their first-round pick to Baltimore.

In essence, this now means that teams who were previously scared off because they picked so high in the first round are now back in the picture. Our speculation at the time was that the Redskins (No. 37 overall) could be in that cohort, and the Raiders (No. 39 overall, unless that pick is sent to Philly for Donovan McNabb) and Bills (No. 41 overall) are into the mix too.

In exchange for a late first-rounder or early second-rounder, Gaither is a great value, according to Football Scientist KC Joyner, and depending on what happens with the LT-needy teams in the first round, Gaither could be the big story of Day 2 of the draft, per ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter:[/quote]

[quote]Adam Schefter
This could get interesting:
"Baltimore has a surplus of tackles, and for the right price, it will deal Gaither. Washington is one of many teams that need tackles, and what happens in the first round of the draft could dictate where Gaither is dealt in the second round. The teams that need tackles, and don't get them in Round 1, could wind up dealing a pick in Round 2 to Baltimore to get Gaither. Washington would be one of the options, but there are others. And it'll be a story to follow on Day 2 of the draft."[/quote]

GTripp0012 04-02-2010 02:07 PM

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I would much rather deal my 2011 2nd rounder than my 2010 second rounder for Gaither.

SmootSmack 04-02-2010 02:08 PM

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I'd rather wait and see what the available pool is come pick #37. If the rumors about Gaither are true, that's too many red flags in my opinion.

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 02:12 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;681382]I'd rather wait and see what the available pool is come pick #37. If the rumors about Gaither are true, [B]that's too many red flags in my opinion.[/B][/quote]

Even with Shanahan looking over him? If Zorn was our coach I would agree in a heartbeat but we apparently now have a disciplinarian. I do think it would be smart though to get an idea of whos around at 37 like you said. I guess the other downside is he would immediately command a large contract unlike a second round rookie.

SmootSmack 04-02-2010 02:18 PM

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I think his problems may go beyond simply needing discipline.

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 02:34 PM

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ahh wtf smoot.. I thought that by your usertext that charlie sheen had died or something

just looked up the real news

BigHairedAristocrat 04-02-2010 02:41 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
After learning more about Gaither's issues, i would shy away from trading a high draft pick for Gaither - although i certainly think there's potential there.

Assuming we we don't trade down and go OT and QB with our first two picks, i'd much rather have okung in the first and McCoy in the 2nd than Clausen in the 1st and a 2nd round OT or Gaither with our 2nd.

That being said... The ravens really need a replacement for Todd Heap and i've seen several mocks have them taking a TE in the first round. I'd trade Cooley or Davis for Gaither straight-up, if they were interested. A deal like that would allow both teams to give up superflous players while saving their first and 2nd round draft picks to fill other needs.

SmootSmack 04-02-2010 02:43 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;681399]ahh wtf smoot.. I thought that by your usertext that charlie sheen had died or something

just looked up the real news[/quote]

LOL...sorry for misleading

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 02:50 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;681388]I think his problems may go beyond simply needing discipline.[/quote]

What were his issues again? Strip club, bad teammate, domestic incidents?

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 02:52 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;681410]What were his issues again? Strip club, bad teammate, domestic incidents?[/quote]

I think work ethic, punctuality, etc

ChickenMonkey 04-02-2010 03:07 PM

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Gaither may shake up the top of the draft...(Rumor)Washington could trade down from #4 to #25 in a swap with Baltimore...This move would give the Skins a starting LT(Gaither ) and the possibility pick up Clausen, or a top rated RB,DT or OLB and still have the #37 pick in the 2nd.

Sounds like a great deal to me!!!!

BigHairedAristocrat 04-02-2010 03:10 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
[quote=ChickenMonkey;681418]Gaither may shake up the top of the draft...(Rumor)Washington could trade down from #4 to #25 in a swap with Baltimore...This move would give the Skins a starting LT(Gaither ) and the possibility pick up Clausen, or a top rated RB,DT or OLB and still have the #37 pick in the 2nd.

Sounds like a great deal to me!!!![/quote]

where are you getting your information from? If so, it sounds like a fair deal, although i would much rather trade cooley or davis in a deal involving gaither.

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 03:10 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
Has there even been legit interest in Gaither from our camp? I mean seems like the only thing that we've heard is that JLC said that we need tackles and would be an ideal candidate.

Lotus 04-02-2010 03:11 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
[quote=ChickenMonkey;681418]Gaither may shake up the top of the draft...(Rumor)Washington could trade down from #4 to #25 in a swap with Baltimore...This move would give the Skins a starting LT(Gaither ) and the possibility pick up Clausen, or a top rated RB,DT or OLB and still have the #37 pick in the 2nd.

Sounds like a great deal to me!!!![/quote]

I'm not certain that Clausen will fall to #25.

Son Of Man 04-02-2010 03:20 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
The Washington Redskins reached agreement with free agent running back Willie Parker on a one-year deal with a maximum value of $3.1 million, according to a league source.


Parker has been told there will be an open competition for the starting job.


Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL Insider.

SmootSmack 04-02-2010 03:41 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;681413]I think work ethic, punctuality, etc[/quote]

One strike away also (allegedly)

CRedskinsRule 04-02-2010 03:46 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
[quote=ChickenMonkey;681418]Gaither may shake up the top of the draft...(Rumor)Washington could trade down from #4 to #25 in a swap with Baltimore...This move would give the Skins a starting LT(Gaither ) and the possibility pick up Clausen, or a top rated RB,DT or OLB and still have the #37 pick in the 2nd.

Sounds like a great deal to me!!!![/quote]
From 4 to 25 just for Gaither. I hope that is a late April Fools joke!

Ruhskins 04-02-2010 03:52 PM

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I think this whole Gaither stuff is just speculation. Give me Russell Okung or Trent Williams instead.

freddyg12 04-02-2010 03:54 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
[quote=Ruhskins;681465]I think this whole Gaither stuff is just speculation. Give me Russell Okung or Trent Williams instead.[/quote]

agreed, and please don't sign Flozell!
I've always thought he was a little underappreciated due to his false starts. He's been a great LT for the cowpokes, and that's the main reason I couldn't stand to see him in b&g.

Lotus 04-02-2010 03:55 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
[quote=Ruhskins;681465]I think this whole Gaither stuff is just speculation. Give me Russell Okung or Trent Williams instead.[/quote]

This.

tryfuhl 04-02-2010 04:04 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
[quote=SmootSmack;681455]One strike away also (allegedly)[/quote]

ahhh just googled that up and came across something on the baltimoresun forums

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 04:07 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 5)
 
Whats with the love for Trent Williams all of a sudden? He played on a spread offense in a weak conference surrounded by All-Americans. He also wears two knee braces.

[IMG]http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/66/666746.jpg[/IMG]
Also as you can see sometimes he wears the wrong jersey and helps the other team out.

Lotus 04-02-2010 04:19 PM

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^ Perhaps you are joking, Dirtbag. If not, I'd have to say that Williams is very athletic and moves well, just like you would want a zone blocking left tackle to do.

Dirtbag59 04-02-2010 04:20 PM

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[quote=Lotus;681499]^ Perhaps you are joking, Dirtbag. If not, I'd have to say that Williams is very athletic and moves well, just like you would want a zone blocking left tackle to do.[/quote]

I also hear he has a bad shoulder and is underweight :D

Personally though I like Davis better. Davis has a much more powerful punch, slightly better footwork, and experience in a zone blocking scheme.


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