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firstdown 10-28-2009 12:45 PM

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[quote=munny;617687]Well then, for the record, I have an original 'Fire Dan Snyder' tshirt back from the marty era, when the actual website was up. This has long been an issue for me.[/quote]
Post a pick of the T shirt.

GMScud 10-28-2009 12:47 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;617631]Having been a part of the local media covering the Redskins back in the day the rule was always you can talk to tailgaters, you just can't set up shop in the parking lot. Like WUSA can't go set up their truck inside there. I think it's largely due to logistical reasons, but media has always been allowed to interview tailgaters. You just can't, as I noted, bring all your gear (namely a truck) into the lot. If I remember right we couldn't even bring cameras in either.

Maybe that rule has since changed, and if so that's unfortunate, but my guess is that something just wasn't communicated properly.

At the end of the day though we're just talking about fans being interviewed before or after a game...or not. [B]The timing of all this makes it seem bad,[/B] but the Hitler comparisons are ridiculous[/quote]

Well to me that's exactly the point. If we were winning and/or the Danny and VC weren't under heavy fire, do you really think they'd care about media talking to tailgaters? To me it's plain as day- Napoleon is doing everything in his power to suppress negativity towards himself and the organization. The funny thing is, this kind of stuff is only going to make the hating worse.

This isn't as bad as throwing out fans because of t-shirts though. That's the most pathetic thing I've seen from Danny.

BrunellMVP? 10-28-2009 12:48 PM

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They official line is that T-shirts are allowed (so long as it doesn't contain profanity), posters on the other hand are prohibited.

doughtydoubter 10-28-2009 12:51 PM

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sad that its come to this...and yet stilll people will go to the games and buy expensive hotdogs and put money in his pocket

GMScud 10-28-2009 12:51 PM

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;617676]For the last two years or so, I have been saying here that the ONLY real way to get Danny Boy's attention and give him real grief is to hit him in the ego. And now you can see how he and his minions react when the first wave of that kind of abuse gets in his face.


He does not like to be told that he is wrong about anything. If one of the security folks told him that it just didn't seem right to forbid someone from bringing in a sign that said "Hi Dad! Stay Safe in Afghanistan!" with an American Flag emblem on it, Danny Boy is 50/50 to fire that security guy on the spot. NO one tells him he is wrong about ANYTHING. If you don't believe that, ask any of the 15 PR people that have come and gone through the Skins organization in the last 6 or 7 years. Only a few of them have truly resigned; the rest have "resigned" - - and taken a buyout with a confidentiality clause.


Danny Boy's yes-men are closing ranks around him to protect him from the ego-abuse he is taking and should continue to take. The more he tries to be a hard-ass about this, the more he will be held up to ridicule - - so long as fans keep the heat on.


Too bad FedEX field is in tightly controlled airspace. I know two private pilots who have planes who want to fly banners around the stadium with a message for fans and for "The Incumbent Owner"... Air traffic control makes that almost impossible.[/quote]

Great post. Couldn't agree more. I didn't know Danny was in the pockets of air-traffic controllers. No surprise. What a little maggot that guy is. I know he's done good things with charity/cancer research etc etc, and that's fine. But what I'm concerned with is his ownership of my beloved team, and at that he's a big fat FAIL.

SmootSmack 10-28-2009 12:56 PM

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[quote=GMScud;617692]Well to me that's exactly the point. If we were winning and/or the Danny and VC weren't under heavy fire, do you really think they'd care about media talking to tailgaters? To me it's plain as day- Napoleon is doing everything in his power to suppress negativity towards himself and the organization. The funny thing is, this kind of stuff is only going to make the hating worse.

This isn't as bad as throwing out fans because of t-shirts though. That's the most pathetic thing I've seen from Danny.[/quote]

This all if the initial report in the post is accurate...which I don't think it is

munny 10-28-2009 01:01 PM

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Are you questioning the tailgate thing or the t-shirt thing. The t-shirt thing is 100% real, I saw it. The tailgate thing, that could be a misinterpretation but given his current actions there is no reason to think he would not do that. After all, if you are going after tailgaters, in the parking lot, for hanging anti-snyder banners then everything else is plausible.

SmootSmack 10-28-2009 01:06 PM

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I'm talking specifically about media access to tailgaters

firstdown 10-28-2009 01:13 PM

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[quote=munny;617704]Are you questioning the tailgate thing or the t-shirt thing. The t-shirt thing is 100% real, I saw it. The tailgate thing, that could be a misinterpretation but given his current actions there is no reason to think he would not do that. After all, if you are going after tailgaters, in the parking lot, for hanging anti-snyder banners then everything else is plausible.[/quote]
I'd still like to see the pic of the original Fire Him T Shirt from ten years ago.

SBXVII 10-28-2009 01:14 PM

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[quote]Redskins dealing clumsily with rampant unrest
Posted by Mike Florio on October 28, 2009 9:19 AM ET
Everyone who follows the NFL knows that the Redskins are struggling (and Joe Namath couldn't care less). After seven games, they've won only two -- one by two points at home against the 0-7 Rams and one by three at home against the 0-7 Bucs.

But with coach Jim Zorn supposedly sticking around for the rest of the year and a crippling schedule awaiting after the bye (Falcons, Broncos, Cowboys, Eagles, Saints, Raiders, Giants, Cowboys, Chargers), there's not much more that can be said about the team.

There's plenty that can be said about the manner in which the team is -- or isn't -- dealing with the criticism that goes with the territory of being terrible.

For starters, the team has implemented a new "no signs" policy, which makes sense since the signs will be increasingly unflattering as the losses pile up.

Now, WUSA-TV (via Dan Steinberg's D.C. Sports Bog) says that the team is prohibiting television interviews of tailgaters.

Said anchor Derek McGinty on Tuesday, "Tonight the Redskins have seemingly escalated things again; they've banned media interviews with tailgating fans on FedEx Field property. They told our sports director Brett Haber that this has always been team policy, but when he pointed out that we and other stations, including their very own broadcast partners, have in fact always talked openly to tailgaters, there was, well let's just say, no further explanation."

The situation got even more tense when Redskins General Counsel Dave Donovan spoke with Mike Wise of the Washington Post on Wise's radio show at 106.7 The Fan in D.C. (SportsRadioInterviews.com has the link to the audio.)

The far better approach, in our view, would be to let the fans vent during the bad times. Heavy-handed tactics will serve only to increase the sense of frustration -- and will ultimately alienate hundreds if not thousands of paying customers.

UPDATE: Redskins blogger Matt Terl has put together a partial transcript of the Wise-Donovan debate. [B]Donovan separately told Terl that fans are permitted to wear T-shirts critical of the team, as long as the shirts contain no profanity. [/B] Then again, in the eyes of many Redskins fans, the words "Snyder" and "Cerrato" currently are regarded as profane.[/quote]

This was from PFT, but I found it interesting about the T-shirts. I hope the guys who (if true) was harrassed gets an apology from the Danmiester or perhaps free beer for the remaining part of the season for his inconvenience.

GMScud 10-28-2009 01:21 PM

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Oh there's a "no sign" policy now too? Haha. What a joke. Could Snyder get any worse? Communism in the nation's capital. Who would've thought?

Trample the Elderly 10-28-2009 01:30 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;617686]Hey, when is the next race and what time does the screwing begin? LOL. Just thought I'd "pop" in. ;)[/quote]

Every May and September. They haven't released next year's schedule yet. If you've got any kind of game what-so-ever, you'll find some women there.

MTK 10-28-2009 02:03 PM

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Good read here

[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2009/10/27/your-t-shirts-are-okay-with-fedexfield-also-lots-of-mike-wise/]Your T-Shirts Are Okay With FedExField. Also, Lots Of Mike Wise and Dave Donovan[/url]

tryfuhl 10-28-2009 02:24 PM

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Donovan is such a smug prick.

"Pat Hill. She's a 72-year old grandmother.

"And as soon as we found out the facts, we terminated the lawsuit and we dropped the judgment. Nonetheless, your organization runs an editorial the next day"

and secondly, didn't he say he wasn't aware of her story when they first talked to him about it?

yet he's saying they dropped it BEFORE it was reported on?

Longtimefan 10-28-2009 02:48 PM

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;617676]For the last two years or so, I have been saying here that the ONLY real way to get Danny Boy's attention and give him real grief is to hit him in the ego. And now you can see how he and his minions react when the first wave of that kind of abuse gets in his face.


He does not like to be told that he is wrong about anything. If one of the security folks told him that it just didn't seem right to forbid someone from bringing in a sign that said "Hi Dad! Stay Safe in Afghanistan!" with an American Flag emblem on it, Danny Boy is 50/50 to fire that security guy on the spot. NO one tells him he is wrong about ANYTHING. If you don't believe that, ask any of the 15 PR people that have come and gone through the Skins organization in the last 6 or 7 years. Only a few of them have truly resigned; the rest have "resigned" - - and taken a buyout with a confidentiality clause.


Danny Boy's yes-men are closing ranks around him to protect him from the ego-abuse he is taking and should continue to take. The more he tries to be a hard-ass about this, the more he will be held up to ridicule - - so long as fans keep the heat on.


Too bad FedEX field is in tightly controlled airspace. I know two private pilots who have planes who want to fly banners around the stadium with a message for fans and for "The Incumbent Owner"... Air traffic control makes that almost impossible.[/quote]

One needs only a glance to see that what you're saying is absolutely correct.
It's the him against the world mentality, the whole world's wrong and he's right.

munny 10-28-2009 02:52 PM

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[quote=firstdown;617708]I'd still like to see the pic of the original Fire Him T Shirt from ten years ago.[/quote]

Will post a pic tonight. I have it pinned up to the wall over my desk at home.

Pocket$ $traight 10-28-2009 03:05 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;617780]One needs only a glance to see that what you're saying is absolutely correct.
It's the him against the world mentality, the whole world's wrong and he's right.[/quote]

He is a coward. He won't speak during the season. He has been hiding behind Vinny for years and now he is hiding behind his slimy lawyer.

Why do you think our players have a weak, excuse filled mentality? Because that is the culture that the owner has created.

This makes me sick.

Pocket$ $traight 10-28-2009 03:20 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;617740]Good read here

[URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2009/10/27/your-t-shirts-are-okay-with-fedexfield-also-lots-of-mike-wise/"]Your T-Shirts Are Okay With FedExField. Also, Lots Of Mike Wise and Dave Donovan[/URL][/quote]


Great work by Mike Wise.

PennSkinsFan 10-28-2009 04:04 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;617618]lol are you being facetious?[/quote]

No not at all. Private property like FEDEX Field is a public invite situation. It is viewed by the Courts as more of a public trust. My bet is, if that ban is real, the Washington Post will have reporters out to interview with Attorneys by their side. This is not a private residence or private business. The public is being invited en masse onto the property. Cant enforce it anyway.

mlmdub130 10-28-2009 04:48 PM

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pretty sure i was one of the reasons for this action because they interviewed me about the sellourteamdannyboy.com website and it aired on nbc a little after 6 atleast we know this stuff is getting to him, fox 5 was also at my house today and interviewed me and a buddy today in front of my "redskins car" and it should be airing on fox tonight between 6 and 630 and as of now we are $30 away from getting our first thousand on sellourteamdannyboy.com

SmootSmack 10-28-2009 04:53 PM

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I still think this initial report is inaccurate, based on my experience and knowledge of media's rights

mlmdub130 10-28-2009 05:00 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;617848]I still think this initial report is inaccurate, based on my experience and knowledge of media's rights[/quote]

might be but they still made a point to make a staement enforcing it, he DOES own fed ex and can do what ever the hell he wants, he is turning it into his little fortress so the big kids can't pick on him, and he can play world of war craft with vinny all day

The Goat 10-28-2009 07:50 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;617664]Snyder is sounding like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran. I guess one thing they can't stop is tweeting.[/quote]

DUDE this is exactly what I thought when I read the first post of the thread...WEIRD! What made it plain to me is how they're both small (super small maybe?) and come across as blatantly smug.

LOL...

The Goat 10-28-2009 07:57 PM

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;617829]No not at all. Private property like FEDEX Field is a public invite situation. It is viewed by the Courts as more of a public trust. My bet is, if that ban is real, the Washington Post will have reporters out to interview with Attorneys by their side. This is not a private residence or private business. The public is being invited en masse onto the property. Cant enforce it anyway.[/quote]

Yeah I mean doesn't the public typically "fund" the building w/ a levy or some kind of the new tax? Not sure about the specifics of FedEx but I've definitely read about other stadiums built on public funds (the ownership is franchise based i.e. the team as an entity is owned but the edifice is more or less a public venue).

RedskinMike 10-28-2009 08:15 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;617669]I can see DS recinding all the tickets, putting up sheet metal human figures in each seat with a button he can press to pop them up when needed and playing crowd noise at each game over the loud speakers. LOL.

Media sees empty seats prior to game, then sent to a holding room while he presses the button, then media is brought back out with the fans in place. Sorry no fan interviews. LOL.

What the hell is going on with the beloved Skins? It seriously feels like the Titanic. Is Ds the boy in the plastic bubble? Honestly if it was me I'd be humiliated. I hold a press conference where I'd fire VC. Fire whoever is in charge of public relations and find someone new. Fire all these piss ant venders and hire one company to do it all. Hire a real security firm to provide security at the games. Hire a GM in the off season and tell him to fire everyone and bring in top talent. Then take my wife to a warm beach. Show back up in Sept. with a smile on my face.

DS, you need to wake up, get your head out of your ass, be a man, and get control of this situation instead of plodding along as if everything was hunky dory. Your losing your fan base. Slowly.

My cheap but has walked into Walmart and Target and have seen some nice Skins gear, thought about it, and put it back on the rack. I used to be a proud Skins fan no matter how bad they were, but I find myself distancing my self more and more. I'm usually a fan who is sitting on my couch watching the game no matter what. Shopping has to work around the Skins schedule. I find myself just not caring anymore. I turn the game on yet do other things and pop in and watch a few plays here and there. I don't know what it will be like when we are like 2-9 or 2-10.

The good news is both the Caps and Wizards won last night. The Wiz looked good.[/quote]

They have always pumped in crowd noise over the speaker system. And I agree the wiz look good.

insideman 10-28-2009 08:17 PM

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Danny boy is going to do everything he can to keep as much critizicing down to a low. He knows he's on the hot seat with us fans and he can't stand the bad talk he has been getting. You ask for it Danny so take your medicine like a man.

GusFrerotte 10-28-2009 08:27 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;617575]I've been saying that along as well. Snyder probably has already made his profits for this year from the ticket sales, but he can still get sucker punched by people not showing up, parking in his parking lots, buying his food and drinks, etc...[/quote]


I am in Detroit so I only can make Skins road games in the rust belt, but I am not buying another Skins item until at least they hire a GM and Snyder gets his head out of his ass. Skins fans need to do what Lions fan do and just not show up. THe cost is ridiculous in itself, but to watch crappy football is just another slap in the face. I can go to see my Alma Mater play on Saturdays for as little as $10 and those kids give a better effort than the Skins do. They lose most of the time, but at least they come to play.

GusFrerotte 10-28-2009 08:33 PM

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[quote=RedskinMike;617910]They have always pumped in crowd noise over the speaker system. And I agree the wiz look good.[/quote]


That is sad if they really do that. The now next to largest stadium should rock every Sunday, although with things the way they are maybe not. I hope the Caps can get to see Lord Stanley. They were fun to watch last season.

SouperMeister 10-28-2009 08:53 PM

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[quote=Lotus;617549]First they ban winning...now this?[/quote]Now that is funny :laughing2

munny 10-29-2009 12:22 AM

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[quote=firstdown;617708]I'd still like to see the pic of the original Fire Him T Shirt from ten years ago.[/quote]

Ask and you shall receive. I have had it pinned to my office wall for a long, long time. There was once a site called FireDanSnyder.com and I bought it from them. [IMG]http://www.mistrhanky.com/fds_small.jpg[/IMG]

tryfuhl 10-29-2009 12:49 AM

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[quote=munny;617983]Ask and you shall receive. I have had it pinned to my office wall for a long, long time. There was once a site called FireDanSnyder.com and I bought it from them. [IMG]http://www.mistrhanky.com/fds_small.jpg[/IMG][/quote]props to reppin it before cams had the megapixels to capture it

tryfuhl 10-29-2009 12:54 AM

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[quote=pennskinsfan;617829]no not at all. Private property like fedex field is a public invite situation. It is viewed by the courts as more of a public trust. My bet is, if that ban is real, the washington post will have reporters out to interview with attorneys by their side. This is not a private residence or private business. The public is being invited en masse onto the property. Cant enforce it anyway.[/quote]
lololol

SkinFanatic 10-29-2009 08:21 AM

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This is just another instance to show how our beloved owner is totally out of touch with his fans. Unfortunately, there's no way we are going to "force" him to sell the team. We can only hope this child grows up soon and realizes he has no business running a football team. He can still own the team without running it. Leave that to the professionals.
Funny thing is, I don't understand what he's hoping to gain by muffling the fans. All he's doing is alienating his customers and making himself a PR nightmare.

SBXVII 10-29-2009 08:46 AM

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[quote=SkinFanatic;618031]This is just another instance to show how our beloved owner is totally out of touch with his fans. [B]Unfortunately, there's no way we are going to "force" him to sell the team. We can only hope this child grows up soon and realizes he has no business running a football team.[/B] He can still own the team without running it. Leave that to the professionals.
Funny thing is, I don't understand what he's hoping to gain by muffling the fans. All he's doing is alienating his customers and making himself a PR nightmare.[/quote]

or....he could go bankrupt and be forced to sell......maybe someone getting hurt on Fed Ex property or simply everyone start filing suit against him for breach of contract (selling a lemon product. LOL) or something.

Look at the situation this way....if you wanted to see a movie and went to the theater and watched it and thought it sucked afterwards...would you pay the $8 to see it again? Most likely not. Now imagine you've seen all the movies at the theater and want to see something new but your theater keeps showing the same movies...most people would go to another theater and watch another movie. I'm betting no one would pay $8 to see the same damb movies over and over every Sun. for 9 yrs or more. Yet in this situation people are paying thousands of dollars for their season tickets and getting the same show every season, every Sun. for atleast 9 yrs. Not counting the 2 good yrs Gibbs2 had, but I am adding Spurrier. Thousands of dollars.

I understand that sports is different in the sense that it's a coin flip as to the out come of the game vs. a movie which you already know the ending but still if you've seen a crappy show your most likely not going to see it again. and again. and again. etc. etc.

BrunellMVP? 10-29-2009 08:47 AM

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probably would be effective to start writing in to FedEx (as the sponsor) asking them to put pressure on the skins. This idea was mentioned in "Around the Horn" - makes sense

[URL="http://news.van.fedex.com/contact"]contact | FedEx Global Newsroom[/URL]

this is what I sent...

[FONT=Arial]Hello, [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial] I am a long time fan of the Washington Redskins and avid FedEx user and I wanted to draw your attention to the iron curtain that is FedEx Field and how this reflects on your company. As you may know, FedEx field has effectively become a censorship “state” that deploys coercive tactics to enforce its "new" rules.[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/#_ftn1"][FONT=Arial][1][/FONT][/URL] At present, fans are prohibited from bring any signs (a common site at sporting events), clothing (critical of the team or owner), and television interviews at tailgates (another common occurrence at sporting events). While I won't waste your time getting into the specifics of each individual assault on our freedom of speech, I do wish to point out how these policies reflect on your company. As a firm that exists to unite the globe (via fast, reliable shipping) this message of intolerance stands in stark contrast to the FedEx vision. In continuing your association with the Redskins and FedEx Field, you are directly supporting the oppression of your clients (and undermining your own revenues). Burke said that “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”, to that end, I beseech you act now; withdraw your support of the Redskins’ restrictive policies by canceling your sponsorship of FedEx Field. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial] Thanks in advance, [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial] XXX XXX[/FONT]

[URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/#_ftnref1"][FONT=&quot][1][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Arial]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/28/AR2009102804589.html[/FONT]
[URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2009/10/27/your-t-shirts-are-okay-with-fedexfield-also-lots-of-mike-wise/"]Your T-Shirts Are Okay With FedExField. Also, Lots Of Mike Wise and Dave Donovan[/URL]
[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/"]D.C. Sports Bog - By The Washington Post's Dan Steinberg[/URL]

SBXVII 10-29-2009 08:59 AM

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Sorry for posting this twice, I went on a tangent in the "Redskins Gear" thread and it probably should have been here.

[quote]Questions about Skins gear?

Don't buy it.

Don't buy it.

Don't buy it.

Let Danny Boy feel the pinch when his product is not making money. Let him feel it when people are not paying the high cost of parking. Let him feel it when no one is there to purchase the high cost of food. Parking is all his, but the food he makes a % of also.

Everyone who has season tickets needs to find Metro and ride in so save on the parking cost. So Danny does not make money there. Then eat at a resturuant prior to arriving at Fed Ex. Then don't spend a dime at the park.

Let Metro have your money. Let the wonderful places around the park have your money who will give you a good product. Then go to the park and not spend a dime. Sooner or later Danny will feel the pinch. [/quote]

I don't know if Fed Ex can do anything towards the team or not. But if DS is not making money to pay for the players, coach's, buildings and equipement, he will start making changes. Six flags is already in the hole so it can't bail him out.

LongTimeSkinsFan 10-29-2009 09:05 AM

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"maybe someone getting hurt on Fed Ex property or simply everyone start filing suit against him for breach of contract (selling a lemon product. LOL) or something. "


Now that would be an awesome game day item. Buy up a few crates of lemons then slap "Redskins 2009" in burgundy lettering then on the other side "There oughta be a law" on the other side. Wonder how long it would take for the vendor to be issued a cease and desist?

SBXVII 10-29-2009 09:13 AM

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[quote=LongTimeSkinsFan;618043]"maybe someone getting hurt on Fed Ex property or simply everyone start filing suit against him for breach of contract (selling a lemon product. LOL) or something. "


Now that would be an awesome game day item. Buy up a few crates of lemons then slap "Redskins 2009" in burgundy lettering then on the other side "There oughta be a law" on the other side. Wonder how long it would take for the vendor to be issued a cease and desist?[/quote]

:doh: damn, sometimes I can come up with half a decent idea only to let someone else capitalize on it.

SkinFanatic 10-29-2009 10:12 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;618036]or....he could go bankrupt and be forced to sell......maybe someone getting hurt on Fed Ex property or simply everyone start filing suit against him for breach of contract (selling a lemon product. LOL) or something.

Look at the situation this way....if you wanted to see a movie and went to the theater and watched it and thought it sucked afterwards...would you pay the $8 to see it again? Most likely not. Now imagine you've seen all the movies at the theater and want to see something new but your theater keeps showing the same movies...most people would go to another theater and watch another movie. I'm betting no one would pay $8 to see the same damb movies over and over every Sun. for 9 yrs or more. Yet in this situation people are paying thousands of dollars for their season tickets and getting the same show every season, every Sun. for atleast 9 yrs. Not counting the 2 good yrs Gibbs2 had, but I am adding Spurrier. Thousands of dollars.

I understand that sports is different in the sense that it's a coin flip as to the out come of the game vs. a movie which you already know the ending but still if you've seen a crappy show your most likely not going to see it again. and again. and again. etc. etc.[/quote]

Problem is, the Redskins fans that have season tickets are held hostage. I'm not a ticket holder myself, but to use your theater analogy: what if you don't want to see the same thing over and over but if you give up your ticket, you can never get a ticket at that theater again. I feel for the season ticket holders because they've shelled out a ton of money for an inferior product. If they don't go to the game, they've waisted their money. If they scalp their tickets, someone else goes and it doesn't help the cause. If they don't renew their tix, the next guy on the list gets to go. Thing is, the stands still get filled. You're never going to hurt him that way.

I have a gut feeling that this current media/fan barage is going to work. I wouldn't be surprised if DS either makes a drastic move soon (i.e. firing Vinny) or possibly breaking his media silence. Something big is on the horizon.

I've never seen anything like this. [I]Viva la revolucion![/I]

BrunellMVP? 10-29-2009 10:12 AM

Re: Redskins Ban Interviews with Tailgaters.
 
Still at it, i modified the FedEx email to work (somewhat) for Roger Goodell. I'm not sure I have the right email, but it hasn't been returned to me. I tried the (roger.goodell2@nfl.net) address and it did not work. If you guys have a better option, please let us know...

[email]Roger.Goodell@nfl.net[/email]

Mr. Goodell,
I am a long time fan of the Washington Redskins and I wanted to draw your attention to the iron curtain that is FedEx Field and how this reflects on the NFL's brand. As you may know, FedEx field has effectively become a censorship “state” that deploys coercive tactics to enforce its "new" rules.[1] At present, fans are prohibited from bring any signs (a common site at sporting events), clothing (critical of the team or owner), and television interviews at tailgates (another common occurrence at sporting events). While I won't waste your time getting into the specifics of each individual assault on our freedom of speech, I do wish to point out how these policies reflect on the NFL. As a league that exists to unite the country (one game, one set of rules, forging new human bonds, uniting perfect strangers) this message of intolerance stands in stark contrast to the NFL vision. By remaining silent on the Redskins, you are directly supporting the oppression of your clients (and undermining your own revenues). Burke said that “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”, to that end, I beseech you act now; withdraw your support of the Redskins’ restrictive policies by issuing a league wide rule that ensures the freedom of speech at all NFL games.

Thanks in advance,
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[1] [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/]washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines[/url] wp-dyn/content/article/2009/ 10/28/AR2009102804589.html
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