Re: New coaches who?
 

how old is Danny Smith. He seems to know what he is doing. I am strickly talking interim coach, that coild possibly be the head coach.

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GRIMM!!!!!!! GRIMMM!!!! GRIMM!!!!!!

I think Cowher wants the Carolina job should it become available.

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I think even the best of coaches is going to be stymied as long as the team is managed in the manner it is.

Forgot about Gruden, he would be an option. He would definitely bring a swagger that this team has been missing for years.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;597719]GRIMM!!!!!!! GRIMMM!!!! GRIMM!!!!!!

I think Cowher wants the Carolina job should it become available.[/quote]

What are those coaches going to do under the this managment structure.


It's like switching QB's in our offense at the end of last year. They just would have had no time to throw anyway.

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I don't want Cowher -- he or any other defensive coach will mean more mediocrity on offense.

Got to be an offensive coach. Shanahan.

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John Gruden is not a good fit for the Redskins. His loud mouth arrogant bravado will not motivate these players. He lost the Tampa Bay team to a rookie coach because the team responded negatively to that approach. I would say Shanahan or Cowher to say the least. Russ Grimm has not been a head coach and there is a reason no team has given him a chance. Allow Sherman Smith to call the plays and take all playcalling duties from Zorn til he's replaced.

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[quote=SUNRA;597740]John Gruden is not a good fit for the Redskins. His loud mouth arrogant bravado will not motivate these players. He lost the Tampa Bay team to a rookie coach because the team responded negatively to that approach. I would say Shanahan or Cowher to say the least. Russ Grimm has not been a head coach and there is a reason no team has given him a chance. Allow Sherman Smith to call the plays and take all playcalling duties from Zorn til he's replaced.[/quote]

Totally, TB was happy to get of rid of Gruden's arrogant dumb ass. You will find very few down here to defend him. If it is going to happen, I would prefer a coach with a proven track record that STILL has the fire in his belly to WIN.
I remember the [B]Ol' ball coach[/B] talking crap to other coach's who spend the week at the practice facility, and work 20 hour days, suggesting he would have none of that. I thought......"hmmm that may not be good"
PLEASE....no more of that

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How about bringing in 53 new players

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[quote=budw38;597753]How about bringing in 53 new players[/quote]
how about bringing in one Payton Manning

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Shanahan gets my vote

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;597543]Tony Dungy or Cam Cameron. By the way, Cameron has the Ravens averaging 30+ pts a game for those he say he's another Norv and was a flop in Miami [B](yeah, 1 year sure is a lot isn't it)[/quote][/B]
So one year's not enough(Cameron) but 1 year 3 games is(Zorn)?????

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Shanahan would be a good fit however he should demand that there be a team president/GM in place. Vinny can no longer run the show with Danny Boy.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;597794]how about bringing in one Payton Manning[/quote]
We can only dream . Nice pass to Garcon < got to see him play in college> , divsion 111 .

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Cowher
Shanahan
Kaiser Soze'
Barney

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[quote=WaldSkins;597811][/B]
So one year's not enough(Cameron) but 1 year 3 games is(Zorn)?????[/quote]

I haven't given up on Zorn, it takes 3 years to put a new offense in place.

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[quote=Green1;597557]If your going to hire Russ Grimm, you should just keep Joe Bugle as coach.[/quote]


No more ex Skins guys. Coach Gibbs' second tour of duty with us was a mixed bag and he quit in the end. Like I said in the other thread, it doesn't matter who the coach is if the FO is terrible.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;597855]I haven't given up on Zorn, it takes 3 years to put a new offense in place.[/quote]

How long does it take to install a defense?

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At 1-2 you can't say dump the coach yet. Sure it was embarrassing losing to the Lions, but firing Zorn at his juncture will for one thing waste the season, and it will just scare away any potential succesors that might actually show some promise. Maybe with enough money you can lure some of the big names from the network studios, but I think most will stay right where th ey are. The one guy that will for sure come to DC is Shanny, the others already won their Lombardis and now are enjoying doing analysis in the studio.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;597919]At 1-2 you can't say dump the coach yet. Sure it was embarrassing losing to the Lions, but firing Zorn at his juncture will for one thing waste the season, and it will just scare away any potential succesors that might actually show some promise.[/quote]

I'm sure Snyder has already spoken to a potential coach, but when somebody accuses us of tampering it will turn out that we were just having dinner with his agent who represents someone else on the team.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;597855]I haven't given up on Zorn, it takes 3 years to put a new offense in place.[/quote]

[FONT=Century Gothic][SIZE=5][COLOR=purple]HA, [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
Sorry. :)

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[quote=WaldSkins;597928]I'm sure Snyder has already spoken to a potential coach.[/quote]


I am sure of that also. Wasn't it rumored after Gibbs quit that Cowher just wanted to wait a year or two til he got back in the game? Shanny probably was spoken to often during the Cutler drama. I am just saying wait til the end of the season to cut Zorn. Who knows, maybe he can turn it around. I highly doubt it, but you never know. Too much football to be played in the guy's sophmore season as HC.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;597855]I haven't given up on Zorn, it takes 3 years to put a new offense in place.[/quote]

I would agree with you except it's taken Atlanta, Baltimore, New Jersey, and Detroit 1 year. Why does it always take the Skins longer?

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[quote=SBXVII;597950]I would agree with you except it's taken Atlanta, Baltimore, New Jersey, and Detroit 1 year. Why does it always take the Skins longer?[/quote]

Do you really think Detroit has turned it around? I mean they played us well, but I think they go back to losing.

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[quote=Ruhskins;597957]Do you really think Detroit has turned it around? I mean they played us well, but I think they go back to losing.[/quote]

Well they have won more then they did last yr. They don't look like a SB team but their offense looked better then ours. It moved the ball the whole first half. Their long ball looked good and accurate. Our QB found a way to throw to short or to long.

Today our QB looked like the Rookie. If they play the likes of the rest of the NFCE then no they will lose some but give them the Rams, KC, Browns, and they might win.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;597818]Cowher
Shanahan
[B]Kaiser Soze'[/B]
Barney[/quote]

Nobody can find him.

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[quote=SBXVII;597976]Well they have won more then they did last yr. They don't look like a SB team but their offense looked better then ours. It moved the ball the whole first half. Their long ball looked good and accurate. Our QB found a way to throw to short or to long.

Today our QB looked like the Rookie. If they play the likes of the rest of the NFCE then no they will lose some but give them the Rams, KC, Browns, and they might win.[/quote]

Man our whole team played like a bunch of rookies. Although given Stafford's play it would be a compliment.

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If we get anyone we better get Cowher or Chuckie. [B][I]We need a hard nosed coach[/I][/B]. Dont think we have had one since who knows. Perfect example. Coughlin. When he first came to the Giants they were pouting like lil biotches. But they needed that discipline. The same is needed here. We got a punch of prima donnas and divas. The Giants hated Coughlin at first. Tiki Barber cried and some of the other vets. But what happened. He took them to the Sueprbowl and they have looked pretty good ever since. The players run this team not the coach and when that happens there is turmoil. Ponder that!!

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[quote=SBXVII;597950]I would agree with you except it's taken Atlanta, Baltimore, New Jersey, and Detroit 1 year. Why does it always take the Skins longer?[/quote]
What do their coaches have in common? These are all hard nosed if you dont like it kiss my ass type coaches. They dont take crap. We dont need a zen like Phil Jackson type coach or a offensive guru with no passion. We need someone who will tell it like it is and tell a player he is playing like crap and call them out. If the players dont liek it they can leave. This will weed out the soft ones. because they can't handle the pressure of a coach that pulls no cards and is tough!!

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Gruden would be the best option, he'd come in with a great offensive scheme, bench Campbell right away for Toss Collins(hes s fan of the vet QB) Chucky is also exceptional at building an offensive line and drafting talent

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If we got Dungy, I'd seriously shit a solid gold brick! I'd absoutely LOVE to have him, and we would be BLESSED to have him!
After him, I wouldn't mind getting Cowher, and we could use Gruden's intensity.

FIRE ZORN

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F that. Fire VC and bring in a Personnel Manager.

Please for the love of god.

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Do you think DS is smiling in his bed tonight? Thinking ...I wanted Fassel and the fans didn't. ....I tried to get Fassel a second time and the fans didn't want him, I'll give Zorn till the break and by then the fans will want Fassel. :)

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[quote=SBXVII;598090]Do you think DS is smiling in his bed tonight? Thinking ...I wanted Fassel and the fans didn't. ....I tried to get Fassel a second time and the fans didn't want him, I'll give Zorn till the break and by then the fans will want Fassel. :)[/quote]

There is no positive way to spin this as Dan Snyder. If he wanted him so bad why didn't get secure him? Also Fassel would still have to be dealing with the same patch-work coaching staff as Zorn would have. That situation is not going to be successful for any coach.

I don't know if this is new to DS or anyone else but, it is customary that when you hire a head coach for your team, you allow him to fill out his own coaching ranks...strange, I know but that is traditionally how it's done.

At the end of the day if DS wants to continue playing fantasy football owner it going to be obvious to fans as to who is responsible.

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seriously...a new defense...don't you guys feel like our opposing teams just convert 3rd downs no matter WHAT the yardage is? god it is so f'n frustrating to watch. Like, we'll see 2 semi decent plays then on third down somebody will just get torched...I can't stand it. What bothers me the most is that they look like they don't even care. It drives me insane as a guy who f'n hates losing. And when I see those guys that don't care it just makes me hate them even more. We need to package Campbell and Portis for draft picks and just reload the OLine, that's our only shot. Draft Javhid Best and load up on the line.

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[quote=Green1;597539]If Zorn is fired who would you get to replace him? He are my top guys: Cowher, Holmgren, Marriucci, Gruden, Mike Shanahan, Tony Dungy.[/quote]

I'm not ready for a coaching change. Neither one of those coaches could come in and take this team to the Superbowl any faster than Zorn will. I definitely understand everyone's frustration, hell I'm very frustrated. I wouldn't let myself believe that the Redskins would actually lose that game last night and it still hasn't really sunk in...

The point I wanted to make is, you don't hire a head coach and expect everything to just meld immediately, and have chemistry right away, and be a perennial playoff contender from the get go. I know that is what all of us want, but none of those coaches you mentioned took their team to the Superbowl in their first two seasons. Most it took 5-6 or more.

With all the changes to schemes and philosophies, it's no wonder this team is still sort of lost and trying to find itself and establish an identity.

Hey, I'm not happy with the results so far. BUT, I do know that this team took the Giants to the wire on the road in game one. I know the offense is moving the ball down the field with regularity. I also know there have been a lot of mistakes, some poor execution at times, and yes, even a bad play call here and there (although hindsight is always 20/20). All signs of a team struggling to find itself. I think it will happen. I think they'll find themselves and get into a groove soon. It is three games down, thirteen to go. I'm not going to give up yet and start calling for heads, and I'm not going to boo next time they lose, or don't perform as good as I expected either. I'm just going to watch and cheer them on, and hope they turn this thing around starting with the Buccaneers.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;598116]I'm not ready for a coaching change. Neither one of those coaches could come in and take this team to the Superbowl any faster than Zorn will. I definitely understand everyone's frustration, hell I'm very frustrated. I wouldn't let myself believe that the Redskins would actually lose that game last night and it still hasn't really sunk in...

The point I wanted to make is, you don't hire a head coach and expect everything to just meld immediately, and have chemistry right away, and be a perennial playoff contender from the get go. I know that is what all of us want, but none of those coaches you mentioned took their team to the Superbowl in their first two seasons. Most it took 5-6 or more.

With all the changes to schemes and philosophies, it's no wonder this team is still sort of lost and trying to find itself and establish an identity.

Hey, I'm not happy with the results so far. BUT, I do know that this team took the Giants to the wire on the road in game one. I know the offense is moving the ball down the field with regularity. I also know there have been a lot of mistakes, some poor execution at times, and yes, even a bad play call here and there (although hindsight is always 20/20). All signs of a team struggling to find itself. I think it will happen. I think they'll find themselves and get into a groove soon. It is three games down, thirteen to go. I'm not going to give up yet and start calling for heads, and I'm not going to boo next time they lose, or don't perform as good as I expected either. I'm just going to watch and cheer them on, and hope they turn this thing around starting with the Buccaneers.[/quote]

Can you say Marty Schottenheimer. The Redskins vets were complaining about how tuff he was on them. They started out 0-5 and we finished 8-8, but Synder wanted the Old Ball Coach because he was a offensive genius. Well you know the rest. Coaches need 3 years to turn things around.

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[quote=skins89moss;598133]Can you say Marty Shotnheimer. The Redskins vets were complaining about how tuff he was on them. They started out 0-5 and we finished 8-8, but Synder wanted the Old Ball Coach because he was a offensive genius. Well you know the rest. Coaches need 3 years to turn things around.[/quote]

I'd like to bring Schotty in as GM.

He'd make Snyder sign his "touch my team and cut me a check for the rest of my salary because you will have fired me" clause. If our GM has free reign from Snyder than we'll at least have a shot at being successful instead of in perpetual stuntted state.

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[quote=SBXVII;597950]I would agree with you except it's taken Atlanta, Baltimore, New Jersey, and Detroit 1 year. Why does it always take the Skins longer?[/quote]

Well Detroit hasn't "arrived" quite yet and Baltimore was pretty decent just a couple of years before Harbaugh got there...but they all have proven offensive coordinators

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There isnt a coach out there that can get these losers to play with heart and passion.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;598116]I'm not ready for a coaching change. Neither one of those coaches could come in and take this team to the Superbowl any faster than Zorn will. I definitely understand everyone's frustration, hell I'm very frustrated. I wouldn't let myself believe that the Redskins would actually lose that game last night and it still hasn't really sunk in...

The point I wanted to make is, you don't hire a head coach and expect everything to just meld immediately, and have chemistry right away, and be a perennial playoff contender from the get go. I know that is what all of us want, but none of those coaches you mentioned took their team to the Superbowl in their first two seasons. Most it took 5-6 or more.

With all the changes to schemes and philosophies, it's no wonder this team is still sort of lost and trying to find itself and establish an identity.

Hey, I'm not happy with the results so far. [B] BUT, I do know that this team took the Giants to the wire on the road in game one.[/B] I know the offense is moving the ball down the field with regularity. I also know there have been a lot of mistakes, some poor execution at times, and yes, even a bad play call here and there (although hindsight is always 20/20). All signs of a team struggling to find itself. I think it will happen. I think they'll find themselves and get into a groove soon. It is three games down, thirteen to go. I'm not going to give up yet and start calling for heads, and I'm not going to boo next time they lose, or don't perform as good as I expected either. I'm just going to watch and cheer them on, and hope they turn this thing around starting with the Buccaneers.[/quote]

That's not how I remember it. The Giants dominated us. We scored a garbage touchdown in the final minutes for the desperation drive. The Giants were never threatened in that game.

It was far from "down to the wire" for the Giants.