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What I don't understand is what do people have the bigger gripe about? That it's not Williams, or that it's Fassel?

Because you hear people preach "continuity" but then say well it's ok if we hire McDaniels, or Cowher, or Coach Lubbock

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;411400]I will NEVER jump off the Redskins bandwagon, but, if true, I don't like the move. So pretty much the entire coaching staff wants GW, the players wants GW, the owner preaches about the importance of continuity, and yet we hire a new guy who will likely fire many of the coaches and want to make significant changes to the roster? I can't quite follow that logic.

The only way this move will make sense is if Williams and Saunders remain on the staff as the defensive and offensive coordinators, respectively.[/quote]

Even if they remain, you would just have to think the environment would be a bit stifling under those circumstances. Two of you interviewed for the same job, and the new guy get's it? Naw, that 'aint gonna fly.

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[quote=SmootSmack;411408]What I don't understand is what do people have the bigger gripe about? That it's not Williams, or that it's Fassel?

Because you hear people preach "continuity" but then say well it's ok if we hire McDaniels, or Cowher, or Coach Lubbock[/quote]

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P;411379]It looks like the Skins contacted the Seahawks earlier this week to interview their QB coach Jim Zorn.



Here's more from JLC's blog: [url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url][/QUOTE]

Jim Zorn would be a very nice addition

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This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;411412]It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.[/QUOTE]

Great points!!

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[QUOTE=irish;411414]This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.[/QUOTE]

So you think the choice should be neither Williams nor Fassel, but rather someone like say...Jim Zorn

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[QUOTE=J. Spanky;411358]thanks for the info.

and for, u know, shooting down the biggest upside i saw in this whole rumour. (that being, the co-rumour that ryan may be coming with fassel) sigh.[/QUOTE]

My bad, brudda. Many apologies.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;411412]It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. [B]And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business. [/B]

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.[/QUOTE]

What do you mean by this?

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;411400]I will NEVER jump off the Redskins bandwagon, but, if true, I don't like the move. So pretty much the entire coaching staff wants GW, the players wants GW, the owner preaches about the importance of continuity, and yet we hire a new guy who will likely fire many of the coaches and want to make significant changes to the roster? I can't quite follow that logic.

The only way this move will make sense is if Williams and Saunders remain on the staff as the defensive and offensive coordinators, respectively.[/QUOTE]I feel almost exactly the same way.
My only difference is that while I'd like to keep Saunders, if he does leave and we bring in a new OC who has a better system for Campbell I'd be happy too.

I want what seems best for this team and Fassel, who could be a decent coach again, does not seem like the best coach out there.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;411418]So you think the choice should be neither Williams nor Fassel, but rather someone like say...Jim Zorn[/QUOTE]

Correct. Not Zorn, I would prefer Schwartz.

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[QUOTE=irish;411414]This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.[/QUOTE]

Isn't Gregg Williams someone else's cast off reject coach?

It continues to amaze me the conviction people have (not pointing to you Irish) about Grilliams being the sure deal to make us a long term winner. Last I checked, he was one of the coaching 'leaders' on a team that went 5-11 in 2006. If Gibbs stepped down after last year there would be about 1/3 of the support for GW.. The herd mentality that some people have is baffling to me..

I challenge anyone to give 5 reasons EXCLUDING CONTINUITY (because we don't know what Williams plans truly would be) that he would be the sure fire lock for the best choice. I'll even spot you #1.

#1-The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..
#2-
#3-
#4-
#5-

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;411423]Isn't Gregg Williams someone else's cast off reject coach?

It continues to amaze me the conviction people have (not pointing to you Irish) about Grilliams being the sure deal to make us a long term winner. Last I checked, he was one of the coaching 'leaders' on a team that went 5-11 in 2006. If Gibbs stepped down after last year there would be about 1/3 of the support for GW.. The herd mentality that some people have is baffling to me..

I challenge anyone to give 5 reasons EXCLUDING CONTINUITY (because we don't know what Williams plans truly would be) that he would be the sure fire lock for the best choice. I'll even spot you #1.

#1-The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..
#2-
#3-
#4-
#5-[/QUOTE]

He is and I have said I didnt want him.

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;411423]Isn't Gregg Williams someone else's cast off reject coach?

It continues to amaze me the conviction people have (not pointing to you Irish) about Grilliams being the sure deal to make us a long term winner. Last I checked, he was one of the coaching 'leaders' on a team that went 5-11 in 2006. If Gibbs stepped down after last year there would be about 1/3 of the support for GW.. The herd mentality that some people have is baffling to me..

I challenge anyone to give 5 reasons EXCLUDING CONTINUITY (because we don't know what Williams plans truly would be) that he would be the sure fire lock for the best choice. I'll even spot you #1.

#1-The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..
#2-
#3-
#4-
#5-[/QUOTE]

You're my new hero

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[QUOTE=12thMan;411377]This move, if it even happens, won't even make sense to me until we're eight games into next season. I won't buy into the interviews by the players, the other coaches, or not the media. I want to see it on the field.

Let's remember this is a playoff team, gentlemen. Unless Fassel can take us to the next round or even the conference championship, I'll be very unforgiving of this move.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty much right with you 12th. I can't understand it it's not like Fassle won much with the G-Men and now all the players all have to learn new systems. If we don’t keep Bugel after what he did with the O-line last year then Snyder is defiantly lost the plot and all Gibbs hard work will ne for not. Needles to say this move doesn’t get me real excited.

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[QUOTE=irish;411422]Correct. Not Zorn, I would prefer Schwartz.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'm a big Schwartz fan too. I think Williams deserves another chance to be head coach, and his best opportunity to succeed would probably come here but he's not the end all and be all answer.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;411331]i just vomitted, & pooped, & peed myself all at the same time. :([/quote]

We all just did. For some reason this seems like a real shot below the belt, like Snyder has no respect for Gibbs and doesn't seem to care what he thinks (as it was reported he was lobbying for Gregg Williams behind the scene). I wish Mr. Cooke would have given the franchise to one of his children rather than sell it to that idiot Snyder.

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[quote=atomicnixon;411430]We all just did. For some reason this seems like a real shot below the belt, like Snyder has no respect for Gibbs and doesn't seem to care what he thinks (as it was reported he was lobbying for Gregg Williams behind the scene). I wish Mr. Cooke would have given the franchise to one of his children rather than sell it to that idiot Snyder.[/quote]

How could he be lobbying for GW when it was reported that he was backing the promotion of Cerrato? I'm going to assume Gibbs knew all about their bad blood. Not to make Gibbs out to be straddling the line or anything but he must have known that if Cerrato got promoted that GW was pretty much as good as gone.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;411400]I will NEVER jump off the Redskins bandwagon, but, if true, I don't like the move. So pretty much the entire coaching staff wants GW, the players wants GW, the owner preaches about the importance of continuity, and yet we hire a new guy who will likely fire many of the coaches and want to make significant changes to the roster? I can't quite follow that logic.

The only way this move will make sense is if Williams and Saunders remain on the staff as the defensive and offensive coordinators, respectively.[/QUOTE]

According to JLC [URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]it looks like Saunders is "in hot water" as well.[/URL] Seattle's QB coach is interviewing for the OC job.

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[quote=12thMan;411412]It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.[/quote]
That's how I feel about the whole situation too. I'm trying to reserve judgment until I hear the official announcement. I'm also trying very hard to give Snyder the benefit of the doubt, but the whole thing just doesn't feel right for some reason.

Given the kind of season we had, I just think GW is in a better position to take over the leadership of this team right now. I think the cohesiveness of the staff and players is better than it has been in years. Why change that now and bring in a whole new dynamic with a new staff?

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[quote=SmootSmack;411426]You're my new hero[/quote]

He's not mine:

#1 - The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..

#2 - A new coach will not have the ability to change the roster for another 3 years at least. The cap situation will make it too difficult. The new coach will, for the most part, have to sink or swim for the next three years with the players already on the roster. See this thread for more:

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/22139-coach-selection-the-cap-rebuilding.html[/URL]

#3 - Can we please keep Jason Campbell in the same offensive system? Note that every time the team has gone with a new system, the year after the change resulted in 5-11 season (2004) and a 6-10 season (2006). After being in a system for a year, the team went to the playoffs in each subsequent season.

#4 - Getting rid of Gregg will mean you lose Saunders, Jerry Gray, and possibly Joe Bugel. I can't seen any scenario in which the new staff is comprised of better coaching minds than the one we've got right now. It's not all about the head coaches, it's about the assistants too.

#5 - Gregg felt the loss of Sean Taylor just as much as anyone on the team. He'll be in a position to relate to the players on a personal level. Chemistry between coaches and players cannot possibly be any better than with GW.

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[quote=SmootSmack;411420]What do you mean by this?[/quote]

This team came together as close as one team possibly could to becoming "family". I think that should factor into the equation some. Now, I'm not laying all of this soley at Snyder's feet, but...

I mean, how Gregg Williams handled things on defense after Rogers went down, after Sean Taylor was slain, how the defense regained it's swagger should count for something. That's what I meant by how much of this has influenced Snyder's decision.

Should Gregg Williams be strongly considered for the job for sentimental reasons? You're damn skippy he should! That's exactly what I'm saying. Does he deserve it, you're damn skippy! Hey, if Joe Gibbs was allowed to buy some time during his second stint, I think Gregg Williams should get somewhat similiar treatment. Not to the same extent as Gibbs maybe, but yeah, Snyder should make a heart decision here.

Oh, the whole continuity thing? Yeah, I would start there too...but why do you need five good reasons to hire someone new, when the guys who will suit up on Sundays prefer the one who's already in the house?

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[quote=12thMan;411441]This team came together as close as one team possibly could to becoming "family". I think that should factor into the equation some. Now, I'm not laying all of this soley at Snyder's feet, but...

I mean, how Gregg Williams handled things on defense after Rogers went down, after Sean Taylor was slain, how the defense regained it's swagger should count for something. That's what I meant by how much of this has influenced Snyder's decision.

Should Gregg Williams be strongly considered for the job for sentimental reasons? You're damn, skippy he should! That's exactly what I'm saying. Does he deserve it, you're damn skippy! Hey, if Joe Gibbs was allowed to buy some time during his second stint, I think Gregg Williams should get somewhat similiar treatment. Not the to the same extent as Gibbs, but yeah, Snyder should make a heart decision here.

Oh, the whole continuity thing? Yeah, I would start there too...but why do you need five good reasons to hire someone new, when the guys who will suit up on Sundays prefer the one who's already in the house?[/quote]

Agreed. After the loss of ST, Gregg felt the pain more than anyone else. He and the team went through that together. They're in the process of building something that they can dedicate to ST's memory.

This is not an entirely cerebral decision, because football is not an entirely cerebral game. It's a passionate game.

Though I'd note from a cerebral standpoint it makes no sense either.

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It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?

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[quote=Riggo44;411443]It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?[/quote]

No. He's just an idiot.

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[quote=Riggo44;411443]It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?[/quote]

If so Synder is a horrible person. Gibbs had perfectly good reasons for leaving, not because he had lost love for the game but for the fact that family comes first. I would really hope that Synder is a better guy than to screw over the entire organization over a man retiring. That's some petty shit.

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[quote=Riggo44;411443]It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?[/quote]

I absolutely feel Snyder feels betrayed or even a a little let down over Gibbs' departure. Pissed? Dunno know about that one.

I can't say he's actually rubbing it in, but I do think his emotions on this are misplaced. Just my opinion.

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[quote=Paintrain;411423]Isn't Gregg Williams someone else's cast off reject coach?

It continues to amaze me the conviction people have (not pointing to you Irish) about Grilliams being the sure deal to make us a long term winner. Last I checked, he was one of the coaching 'leaders' on a team that went 5-11 in 2006. If Gibbs stepped down after last year there would be about 1/3 of the support for GW.. The herd mentality that some people have is baffling to me..

I challenge anyone to give 5 reasons EXCLUDING CONTINUITY (because we don't know what Williams plans truly would be) that he would be the sure fire lock for the best choice. I'll even spot you #1.

#1-The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..
#2-
#3-
#4-
#5-[/quote]


#1
#2 He's one of the most organized coaches by all coaches/players account that anyone has seen
#3 He's a leader... listen to him talk and tell me he's not..
#4 He can get the most out of mediocre talent- Exhibit A..our D for the last 4 years-well 3 out of the 4
#5 His game preparation and adjustments are second to none imo
#6 He's fairly young and can give us many good years

That's 6, i can come up w/ some more...?

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[quote=irish;411414]This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.[/quote]


One mans trash is another mans treasure. Probably a large contributor to Daniel Snyders success. Unfortunately this philosophy hasn't translated well for him in the NFL.

That being said, I'm willing to see what Fassel has to offer. I am not ready to say that he is a worse choice than Gregg Williams. This was an over-emotional year in a lot of respects, and I appreciate the fact that Snyder didn't pull the trigger too quick and name GW the head coach simply for continuity purposes and the fact that some players thought he would be the best choice as Gibbs successor. I'd rather he take the time, listen to those smart guys on the payroll who have "influence" on the matter, and make the decision that best suits the team for the long run. If that means sacrificing some "continuity" then so be it. I'd rather go through some more growing pains for the short term and get it right, than go with the "popular" choice for the sake of continuity.

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Just to be clear on where I stand on this one.

I don't want Fassel at all.

Not as a head coach,

Not as coordinator,

Not as the guy who's going to take JC to the "next level".

Not as the next "whomever".

I don't care....don't want the guy - at all!

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[quote=12thMan;411454]Just to be clear on where I stand on this one.

I don't want Fassel at all.

Not as a head coach,

Not as coordinator,

Not as the guy who's going to take JC to the "next level".

Not as the next "whomever".

I don't care....don't want the guy - at all![/quote]

I'm with you on that one.

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[quote=Riggo44;411443]It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?[/quote]


No, he wouldn't, I don't think that is the case at all. First of all, that wouldn't be smart business, and 'ole Danny boy didn't get to where he is by making off the cuff decisions like that. Second, what makes you think that Gibbs would choose GW as his successor. I've never heard him endorse GW with respect to the head coaching position. Maybe his advice to Daniel Snyder is just the opposite...

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[quote=Riggo44;411443]It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?[/quote]

I highly doubt it. Danny is a smart man(look at all the money he made), and no one would spend weeks, expensive flights, etc. with a predetermined notion of firing GW to spite Gibbs lol.

If so Danny would have cut GW right away. I can't believe we are reaching at straws here now.

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[quote=Riggo44;411443]It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?[/quote]
Do we even know how much of this was done with the help of Gibbs?

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[QUOTE=irish;411414]This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.[/QUOTE]

You mean like Cam Cameron, Lane Kiffen, Bobby Petrino, Eric Mangini (I'll give you that the jury is still out on him), Mike Nolan, Scott Linehan? (or how about Steve Spurrier)?

Not every coodinator w/ good press works out - and like QB's, there is a lot of luck involved. Tomlin and Payton are the exception, not the rule.

Just 'cause someone is an up and comer doesn't mean they're good.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;411452]One mans trash is another mans treasure. Probably a large contributor to Daniel Snyders success. Unfortunately this philosophy hasn't translated well for him in the NFL.

That being said, I'm willing to see what Fassel has to offer. I am not ready to say that he is a worse choice than Gregg Williams. This was an over-emotional year in a lot of respects, and I appreciate the fact that Snyder didn't pull the trigger too quick and name GW the head coach simply for continuity purposes and the fact that some players thought he would be the best choice as Gibbs successor. I'd rather he take the time, listen to those smart guys on the payroll who have "influence" on the matter, and make the decision that best suits the team for the long run. If that means sacrificing some "continuity" then so be it. I'd rather go through some more growing pains for the short term and get it right, than go with the "popular" choice for the sake of continuity.[/QUOTE]

I tend to agree with this. However, Snyder's hiring philosophy and track record, as you point out, have not been successful. I just don't trust the guy to put together a solid FO and coaching staff. Gibbs.2 is the closest he's come, and that's getting disassembled.

The ONE thing we have lacked since DS bought the team is continuity. So to give that up now -- for what, another spin on the Snyder merry-go-round? --just has to give you a queasy feeling. Honestly, Matty and others, don't you feel just a tad ill?

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SmootSmack,

You are usually one of the most level-headed guys here, but it sure seems like you are in "damage control" mode. Will the fan exodus of this potential move hurt more than the mismanagement of this great franchise?

Schneed and redsk1 seem to be right on point. Just look at the War Path's poll, not everyone but an overwhelming majority want GW. As much because of his earning the job HERE, rather than his previous head coaching resume.

And Paintrain, what's up with that sig comparing GW to Patrick Ramsey? Williams has had a successful NFL career! Comparing him to a disappointing 1st round pick is simply wrong.

For the record, I would like to see Williams as HC, keep Saunders and continue what Gibbs started. I would understand going with a Cowher type HC, but if we have to blow up the entire coaching staff for a "B" level HC, my heart-felt Redskins passion will take a huge hit.

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[quote=Schneed10;411440]He's not mine:

#1 - The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..

#2 - A new coach will not have the ability to change the roster for another 3 years at least. The cap situation will make it too difficult. The new coach will, for the most part, have to sink or swim for the next three years with the players already on the roster. See this thread for more:

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/22139-coach-selection-the-cap-rebuilding.html[/URL]

#3 - Can we please keep Jason Campbell in the same offensive system? Note that every time the team has gone with a new system, the year after the change resulted in 5-11 season (2004) and a 6-10 season (2006). After being in a system for a year, the team went to the playoffs in each subsequent season.

#4 - Getting rid of Gregg will mean you lose Saunders, Jerry Gray, and possibly Joe Bugel. I can't seen any scenario in which the new staff is comprised of better coaching minds than the one we've got right now. It's not all about the head coaches, it's about the assistants too.

#5 - Gregg felt the loss of Sean Taylor just as much as anyone on the team. He'll be in a position to relate to the players on a personal level. Chemistry between coaches and players cannot possibly be any better than with GW.[/quote]

Thank you for encapsulating several of the identical arguments I've been making elsewhere into a single, distilled opinion.

Schneed is *[B]my[/B]* new hero.

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[quote=jsnyder03;411469]SmootSmack,

You are usually one of the most level-headed guys here, but it sure seems like you are in "damage control" mode. [B]Will the fan exodus of this potential move hurt more than the mismanagement of this great franchise?[/B]

Schneed and redsk1 seem to be right on point. Just look at the War Path's poll, not everyone but an overwhelming majority want GW. As much because of his earning the job HERE, rather than his previous head coaching resume.

And Paintrain, what's up with that sig comparing GW to Patrick Ramsey? Williams has had a successful NFL career! Comparing him to a disappointing 1st round pick is simply wrong.

For the record, I would like to see Williams as HC, keep Saunders and continue what Gibbs started. I would understand going with a Cowher type HC, but if we have to blow up the entire coaching staff for a "B" level HC, my heart-felt Redskins passion will take a huge hit.[/quote]

LOL fan exodus?

I'd love to see it. We could afford to cut some dead weight.

Truth is all the people hating on this will be loving life if the team wins.

I think alot of people have too much emotion wrapped up in this decision and simply can't be objective about it right now. Maybe once the dust settles we'll see some more rational thinking. But for right now it's total freakout mode.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;411475]Truth is all the people hating on this will be loving life if the team wins.[/QUOTE]Every true fan has to eat his share of crow every now and then.